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paint a picture similar to ernie barnes only mines more ghetto more guns - prodigy

Hiphop 5 pillars shout out KRS but where has the hiphop art gone? NYC founding hiphop fathers laid the foundation for this shyt and graffiti/illustrations/expressionalism was key with beat making, rhyming, b-boying and etc.

Its only swizz beatz holding it down. basquait was very hiphop and made a rap record underground, ernie barnes was a master, today with the great hiphop pushing boundaries we left the art behind and that allowed are fashions to be mimicked a novelty no strong foundation.

lf


hiphop are the nicest illustrators and taggers better than anime/manga they need more support from the hiphop audience and scholars. what happened to hiphop art!?

@Art Barr

you were about there what you think happened to our appreciation of the arts?

What are the 5 pillars of hip hop?
The house of Hip Hop was built with five foundational elements:
  • MCing (Oral)
  • DJing (Aural)
  • Breakdance (Physical)
  • Graffiti (Visual)
  • Knowledge (Mental)

- eminem is a master drawer
- nas a master drawer
- black dibiase painter scholar
- mobb went to art school
- snoop painting now
-etc

what yall think?
 
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Hiphop 5 pillars shout out KRS but where has the hiphop art gone? NYC founding hiphop fathers laid the foundation for this shyt and graffiti/illustrations/expressionalism was key with beat making, rhyming, b-boying and etc.

Its only swizz beatz holding it down. basquait was very hiphop and made a rap record underground, ernie barnes was a master, today with the great hiphop pushing boundaries we left the art behind and that allowed are fashions to be mimicked a novelty no strong foundation.

lf


hiphop are the nicest illustrators and taggers better than anime/manga they need more support from the hiphop audience and scholars. what happened to hiphop art!?

@Art Barr

you were about there what you think happened to our appreciation of the arts?



- eminem is a master drawer
- nas a master drawer
- black dibiase painter scholar
- mobb went to art school
- snoop painting now
-etc

what yall think?


there is no fifth pillar.
nor any connection to classically trained art for hip hop as a culture in creation of bboys bgirls. As any artwork or work produced via hiphop cultures pillars are distinctly outsider and grassroots in Complete feral nature. Yet since graf was the first immediate victim of misappropriation in the business of the pillars. Most of the norms and mores of hiphop.
were forged from this first original theft of graffitti, the b*stard pillar as a result.
meaning most of the fonts color schemes to creation of outsider art darlings. All arpse from the misappropriation of graffitti. Which then seguewayed. into victimization of the other businesses.
that arose from the pillars subsequently as well.


art barr

a Keith haring and Maggie Daley gallery 37 year one darling.

I was in museums, for multiple pieces.
before nikkaz endured puberty.
I put xmen in the museum first,...nikka.

to get up with me.
you bette rbe prepared to hang upside down from the rafters of a pissy rain storm viaduct from a support beam over incoming traffic to style with me bimb'n or piece'n.
my murals been museum worthy.
before, i started getting my paint brushes made from ya auntie's pubes,....nikka.

what you write,....nikka.




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there is no fifth pillar.
nor any connection to classically trained art for hip hop as a culture in creation of bboys bgirls. As any artwork or work produced via hiphop cultures pillars are distinctly outsider and grassroots in Complete feral nature. Yet since graf was the first immediate victim of misappropriation in the business of the pillars. Most of the norms and mores of hiphop.
were forged from this first original theft of graffitti, the b*stard pillar as a result.
meaning most of the fonts color schemes to creation of outsider art darlings. All arpse from the misappropriation of graffitti. Which then seguewayed. into victimization of the other businesses.
that arose from the pillars subsequently as well.


art barr

a Keith haring and Maggie Daley gallery 37 year one darling.

I was in museums, for multiple pieces.
before nikkaz endured puberty.
I put xmen in the museum first,...nikka.

to get up with me.
you bette rbe prepared to hang upside down from the rafters of a pissy rain storm viaduct from a support beam over incoming traffic to style with me bimb'n or piece'n.
my murals been museum worthy.
before, i started getting my paint brushes made from ya auntie's pubes,....nikka.

what you write,....nikka.




art barr

aral.one"1"
aral.uvs
a rebel,..a leader
ultra violence system​

this is dope.

fab 5 freddy loves art though big painter himself.

you got anything you can put me onto pause?
 

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this is dope.

fab 5 freddy loves art though big painter himself.

you got anything you can put me onto pause?


start at the beginning of the b*stard pillar graf.
then you will know hiphop at the base level of its misappropriation and relevant mainstream history as you see it now.
you and the general youse are only living a retold tale.
every prescient bboy is supposed to come to the dance with knowledge of self fulfilled. where this misappropriated tale has just come to the general youse's in the new school way of thought in rap. Where real Bboys and real bgirls that are really culturally populating the pillars of hiphop. Have already come to know what would happen exponentially. When hiphop became misappropriated pillar to pillar till ruin as the general youse now see it in its present form. People like ol school wack duck culture thiefs like fab five should definitely not be used administratively.
in any sector of misappropriated businesses attached to the pillar as well.

that i can fully tell you from the real perspective of a triple crown trifecta skilled and storied grassroots bboy since i was five. To being currently the protege to a legend,..principal heir, legendary liege lothario capitalist of this day tho.


only trust real grassroots top tier skilled new school way of thought Bboys and bgirls only.
only trust those who have no poisoned sellout history of duck behavior.
That i can tell you off top.

if they fukk with ducks, in business of any kind,...they are a house duck and a toy.



art barr


imma tell you who the best artist for real tho are in order.
the people who can really pencil first. Not bullshyt really actually push real graphite and. NOt play in charcoal. Yet school you in other disciplines or engineering medium tool use from an outsider art perspective a not know the rule or field of study.


older guard

1. Dale : RIP. THE ART WORLD DARLING.
the rogue sentinel in arms.
2. Lillian MORGAN LEWIS : First artist to make realistic charcoal and oil pastel water paintings in history.
she is featured as the lady who made jazz lady.
Jan Spivey : The children book artist every copies and acts like Oh i made this on my own. oh tha fukk you did not. Meaning any animation or aNy style you see now predominately anywhere in the mainstream is a complete ripoff of her work. literally the whole fukk'n computer scale of art in color or use is her style. Down to Disney animation.

new guard:



Reg know : Best characters in the history of hiphop ever.
no one is seeing them and why things are why they are now. everything from marketing on tv, to print to any product from McDonald's. To why POLO got to be what polo is. The creator of business casual. The creator of a teddy bear lo is corporate. The creator of the leather derby is corporate if a black man wears it with a lo esmiko sweater.
this the nikka you trying to be and don't even know it.



I guess the cat is out the bag.
this article used his real name as rey knoc too.

complex paid it forward. Can not give neg harsh critique to them like some would like after that move.

How Reggieknow Paved a Way for Kanye West and Virgil Abloh



Larry miller : The same thing as reg just not known in corporate like reg.
I looked up to the guy as kid. When upper classmen where men before eighteen. In a time that will not come to pass anymore. Incredible artist. One of the best emcees in a groups in hiphop ever in atomic ants. Including a world's greatest modest dj too.
class fukk'n act of a guy. That one of my biggest honors is rock'n blue notes stage with him off the top impromptu.

shyt crazy. The night,..the female goat.
sistah ang13 said i was doinG the world a disservice by not rappin more.
that corporate America had taken away this thing that i had to do.
yet was not doing at the level she saw me do it at.

only way that could have happened is just trying to rhyme as good as millski.
shyt crazy. I live this beautiful ass life with evil corporate Epstein clandestined jackass joe. shyt wild but i always win. The only thing is. Nobody worries about if the winner is doing okay after you win.

I am doin too good tho.

only because it was crazy older talent to drive a way younger dude.

look up larry miller and the atomic ants.
they had it....why mobb deep no show at the alcstraz when tha ants rocked. I wanted to see just how good the ants were. Against tha m-o-b-b in 95 when shook ones hit too tho.

this history this art history first is wild.

separately from hiphop. It just so happen,...some of the artists were the best Bboys who ever lived too tho. I mean like great people. Golden star level people. These are those people. Frfr.



3 Harrison : An original a league of his own. The guru.

4 Eman : Me,...nikka. I was winning art fairs at five. Ray outdoor art fair as a late entry. youngest ray art fair contributor from like four till i I wanna show up.
School art fairs were swept first through sixth and eight on a I need to give others a chance and still won. All with marvel or Disney renditions or some piece some teacher snatched. recreated murals of the budweiser black history series. Abstract art pieces of a fisher,...riff raff from heathcliff marionette in Bruce lee enter the dragon jumpsuit in j's. year one gallery 37 male hyde park selectee. Gallery 37, actual numerous Chicago natural art history museum pieces at thirteen. leo burnette gallery 37 future black marketers participant. youngest marwen gallery 37 penciler comic book professional class member. Year two gallery 37 male Hyde park selectee at fourteen. Numerous gallery 37, chicago art museum piece selectionz. Including xmen havoc shining gem mask. (put ya favorite xmen in the museum if you love comics so much nikka.) three year marwen elite younG professional comic book trainee selection member. Taught by marvel's helstorm relaunch creator rap nieves and norm dwyer comico's penciler of speed racer. I was lettering and penciling comics pro at seventeen. Till college and imprisonment behind the easel. All while killin the cta system writin. I even was a cta red line conductor. Who is the conductor who let the so-called street act get on in the car with no dust for a chicago performer license. just in art alone,...i was a grassroots outsider art prodigy early and i know legal admin from hiccups on winnings and the like since six, seven years old. I been known not to think art was the life of anything but a paper. So i was a beast in corporate as a college dropout too.

5. duke : The nikka who invented real air brush cold anything. Anything. The rest of that shyt some knock off frfr.
6. Brian hampton : The senior ap professional artist (this guy was what became the image of the black professional teen graphic artist)

look up those artist.

find them on face book or whatever. With dale since he passed.
I will try to post his stuff i can find.
 
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start at the beginning of the b*stard pillar graf.
then you will know hiphop at the base level of its misappropriation and relevant mainstream history as you see it now.
you and the general youse are only living a retold tale.
every prescient bboy is supposed to come to the dance with knowledge of self fulfilled. where this misappropriated tale has just come to the general youse's in the new school way of thought in rap. Where real Bboys and real bgirls that are really culturally populating the pillars of hiphop. Have already come to know what would happen exponentially. When hiphop became misappropriated pillar to pillar till ruin as the general youse now see it in its present form. People like ol school wack duck culture thiefs like fab five should definitely not be used administratively.
in any sector of misappropriated businesses attached to the pillar as well.

that i can fully tell you from the real perspective of a triple crown trifecta skilled and storied grassroots bboy since i was five. To being currently the protege to a legend,..principal heir, legendary liege lothario capitalist of this day tho.


only trust real grassroots top tier skilled new school way of thought Bboys and bgirls only.
only trust those who have no poisoned sellout history of duck behavior.
That i can tell you off top.

if they fukk with ducks, in business of any kind,...they are a house duck and a toy.



art barr


imma tell you who the best artist for real tho are in order.
the people who can really pencil first. Not bullshyt really actually push real graphite and. NOt play in charcoal. Yet school you in other disciplines or engineering medium tool use from an outsider art perspective a not know the rule or field of study.


older guard

1. Dale : RIP. THE ART WORLD DARLING.
the rogue sentinel in arms.
2. Lillian MORGAN LEWIS : First artist to make realistic charcoal and oil pastel water paintings in history.
she is featured as the lady who made jazz lady.
Jan Spivey : The children book artist every colies and acts like Oh i made this on my own. o tha fukk you did not. Meaning any animation or aNy style you see now predominately anywhere in the mainstream is a complete ripoff of her work. literally the while fukk'n computer scale of art in color or use is her style.


new guard:



Reg know : Best characters in the history of hiphop ever.
no one is seeing them and why things are why they are now. everything from marketing on tv, to print to any product from McDonald's. To why POLO got to be what polo is. The creator of business casual. The creator of a teddy bear lo is corporate. The creator of the leather derby is corporate if a black man wears it with a lo esmiko sweater.
this the nikka you trying to be and don't even know it.

I guess the cat is out the bag.
this article used his real name as rey knoc too.

complex paid it forward. Can not give neg harsh critique to them like some would like after that move.

How Reggieknow Paved a Way for Kanye West and Virgil Abloh



Larry miller : The same thing as reg just not known in corporate like reg.
I looked up to the guy as kid. When upper classmen where men before eighteen. In a time that will not come to pass anymore. Incredible artist. One of the best emcees in a groups in hiphop ever in atomic ants. Including a world's greatest modest dj too.
class fukk'n act of a guy. That one of my biggest honors is rock'n blue notes stage with him off the top impromptu.

shyt crazy. The night,..the female goat.
sistah ang13 said i was doinG the world a disservice by not rappin more.
that corporate America had taken away this thing that i had to do.
yet was not doing at the level she saw me do it at.

only way that could have happened is just trying to rhyme as good as millski.
shyt crazy. I live this beautiful ass life with evil corporate Epstein clandestined jackass joe. shyt wild but i always win. The only thing is. Nobody worries about if the winner is doing okay after you win.

I am doin too good tho.

only because it was crazy older talent to drive a way younger dude.

look up larry miller and the atomic ants.
they had it....why mobb deep no show at the alcstraz when tha ants rocked. I wanted to see just how good the ants were. Against tha m-o-b-b in 95 when shook ones hit too tho.

this history this art history first is wild.

separately from hiphop. It just so happen,...some of the artists were the best Bboys who ever lived too tho. I mean like great people. Golden star level people. These are those people. Frfr.



3 Harrison : An original a league of his own. The guru.

4 Eman : Me,...nikka. I was winning art fairs at five. Ray outdoor art fair as a late entry. youngest ray art fair contributor from like four till i I wanna show up.
School art fairs were swept first through sixth and eight on a I need to give others a chance and still won. All with marvel or Disney renditions or some piece some teacher snatched. recreated murals of the budweiser black history series. Abstract art pieces of a fisher,...riff raff from heathcliff marionette in Bruce lee enter the dragon jumpsuit in j's. year one gallery 37 male hyde park selectee. Gallery 37, actual numerous Chicago natural art history museum pieces at thirteen. leo burnette gallery 37 future black marketers participant. youngest marwen gallery 37 penciler comic book professional class member. Year two gallery 37 male Hyde park selectee at fourteen. Numerous gallery 37, chicago art museum piece selectionz. Including xmen havoc shining gem mask. (put ya favorite xmen in the museum if you love comics so much nikka.) three year marwen elite younG professional comic book trainee selection member. Taught by marvel's helstorm relaunch creator rap nieves and norm dwyer comico's penciler of speed racer. I was lettering and penciling comics pro at seventeen. Till college and imprisonment behind the easel. All while killin the cta system writin. I even was a cta red line conductor. Who is the conductor who let the so-called street act get on in the car with no dust for a chicago performer license. just in art alone,...i was a grassroots outsider art prodigy early and i know legal admin from hiccups on winnings and the like since six, seven years old. I been known not to think art was the life of anything but a paper. So i was a beast in corporate as a college dropout too.

5. duke : The nikka who invented real air brush cold anything. Anything. The rest of that shyt some knock off frfr.
6. Brian hampton : The senior ap professional artist (this guy was what became the image of the black professional teen graphic artist)

look up those artist.

find them on face book or whatever. With dale since he passed.
I will try to post his stuff i can find.

man you really bought it and lol @ the highlighted.

you gave me a lot to look at there i really appreciate it, i'm going to see their images now.

:wow:
 

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man you really bought it and lol @ the highlighted.

you gave me a lot to look at there i really appreciate it, i'm going to see their images now.

:wow:


start at LILLIAN Morgan LEWIS, in oil pastel or charcoal showcasing her study of water.

shyt is mind blowing and fukked me up as a kid. As she literally created what every artist said could not even be done.

to see it come to real life and get what her pieces should as far as PRAISE as a kid.
Plus she is literally my only real art actual lesson I ever needed ever. As she taught me to shade and the theories of lighting in like two seconds with a highlighter and a stick figure light pole.

lady is a true crowning matriarch and if you go to Chicago.
there was a time. You could see her work in the jazz lady professional commission recreated building mural on wells avenue above the el in Chicago.



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1. dale? dale lewis?

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i mean i like his stuff but being his white and its not all out the typical hiphop presentation which is good, the painting here is piff.

running through the names seeing the hot works. :salute:

some of these names works aint showing up for a dude, but yeah this is dope.
 

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start at LILLIAN Morgan LEWIS, in oil pastel or charcoal showcasing her study of water.

shyt is mind blowing and fukked me up as a kid. As she literally created what every artist said could not even be done.

to see it come to real life and get what it should as far as PRAIRE as a kid.
Plus she is literally my only real art actual lesson I ever needed ever. As she taught me to shade and the theories of lighting in like two seconds with a highlighter and a stick figure light pole.

lady is a true crowning matriarch and if you go to Chicago. You can see her work in the jazz lady profession recreated building muralon wells avenue.



Art Barr

bro you're powerfull. i respect this i am just running through the names you listed so far in this thread.

what you think of kerry james marshall?
 

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1. dale? dale lewis?

749tPZmoOmHZknsqh9v7B5S8xw3k5OMCcCtp-QmdVVBYEyASL4dw9NZAzeazTLqyDCWjova4BEI1g6NI92VXDoCI=s1600


i mean i like his stuff but being his white and its not all out the typical hiphop presentation which is good, the painting here is piff.

running through the names seeing the hot works. :salute:

some of these names works aint showing up for a dude, but yeah this is dope.


Dale is not white.

Dale is black...

Wrong dale.

I of course do not know all of dale's work by eye at all.
As he was there before i came to be.
So i could not tell you if this is his piece or any other piece.
As far as discernment of work.
I can tell you. I did not quote or list anyone who was white to check out. I grew up on the Southside of Chicago breh.
It ain't no white people visible at all.
to even come across grassroots culturally to know past mike Treece of mass hysteria and lower links.
Or, upski from the source and bomb tha suburbs fame sir..



Art Barr


Collectively I have only talked about like four to five white people culturally at one point in hiphop ever.

Treece
Upski
Eminem
Sam Palermo
Mgk
Morrison
Pouya



Past going outsider art for misappropriated white blues called rock reviews. when have you seen me big up a white person on skills.

Em, Palermo, upski, Treece, and Morrison really the only ones skilled like that. I ever mentioned culturally to check for.
 
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Dale is not white.

Dale is black...

Wrong dale.

I of course do not know all of dale's work by eye at all.
As he was there before i came to be.
So i could not tell you if this is his piece or any other piece.
As far as discernment of work.
I can tell you. I did not quote or list anyone who was white to check out. I grew up on the Southside of Chicago breh.
It ain't no white people visible at all.

to even come across grassroots culturally to know past mike Treece of mass hysteria and lower links.
Or, upski from the source and bomb tha suburbs fame sir..


Art Barr

:russ:

i appreciate your knowledge but judging by the threads numbers i dont think the (graffiting) hiphop pillar is important to most.
 

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bro you're powerfull. i respect this i am just running through the names you listed so far in this thread.

what you think of kerry james marshall?


I am an outsider based artist.
So i don't review other artists like that as to keep from being influenced. Outside my influence of jim lee to zeck and eighties frenz. I don't think nobody dope like that frfr as a penciler. So i don't think they are this great artist besides who i listed.

If you can't not real manipulate and push graphite for images devoid of paint or whatever cheap cheating medium. I will not think much of it. Especially if he not a penciler of jim lee's caliber and ability on thr easel as far as time.

It just is how i am as a creator. You don't get great looking at other people work. You get great by going out and having great achievement in activity. That is where your inspiration comes from to employ your skill to show and prove.


It would be like asking me to get a tattoo.

Why don't nobody draw that good to out their art on me.


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I am an outsider based artist.
So i don't review other artists like that as to keep from being influenced. Outside my influence of jim lee to zeck and eighties frenz. I don't think nobody dope like that frfr as a penciler. So i don't think they are this great artist besides who i listed.

If you can't not real manipulate and push graphite for images devoid of paint or whatever cheap cheating medium. I will not think much of it. Especially if he not a penciler of jim lee's caliber and ability on thr easel as far as time.

It just is how i am as a creator. You don't get great looking at other people work. You get great by going out and having great achievement in activity. That is where your inspiration comes from to employ your skill to show and prove.


It would be like asking me to get a tattoo.

Why don't nobody draw that good to out their art on me.


Art Barr

lol real talk about the tattoo comment. going to look at Jim Lee's pencil game now.

whoever used to do them illustrations at the back of each source-magazine article was dope too.
 
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