2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

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intra vires said:
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I like how she and her staff posted this from her alt account as well (@KamalaHarris vs @SenKamalaHarris).:mjpls:

We know Harris is AIPAC's lapdog...

In her 2016 speech to AIPAC, she bragged about how her first vote in the Senate was for a resolution she co-sponsored objecting to the UN's resolution on Israeli settlements. That resolution reiterated previous Security Council calls for Israel to stop expanding its illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank, which violate the Fourth Geneva Convention and a landmark ruling by the International Court of Justice.

These aren't "skeletons", they're her views. :yeshrug:

...then look at the names missing from the resolution. For me, Senator Markey's absence is notable given his previous stances on Israel and the ICJ.
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make a point not to go to AIPAC just to have AIPAC lobbyists come to your front door, brehettes
 
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intra vires said:
:laff:

I like how she and her staff posted this from her alt account as well (@KamalaHarris vs @SenKamalaHarris).:mjpls:

We know Harris is AIPAC's lapdog...

In her 2016 speech to AIPAC, she bragged about how her first vote in the Senate was for a resolution she co-sponsored objecting to the UN's resolution on Israeli settlements. That resolution reiterated previous Security Council calls for Israel to stop expanding its illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank, which violate the Fourth Geneva Convention and a landmark ruling by the International Court of Justice.

These aren't "skeletons", they're her views. :yeshrug:

...then look at the names missing from the resolution. For me, Senator Markey's absence is notable given his previous stances on Israel and the ICJ.
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:scust: :scust: :scust:
 
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intra vires said:
:laff:

I like how she and her staff posted this from her alt account as well (@KamalaHarris vs @SenKamalaHarris).:mjpls:

We know Harris is AIPAC's lapdog...

In her 2016 speech to AIPAC, she bragged about how her first vote in the Senate was for a resolution she co-sponsored objecting to the UN's resolution on Israeli settlements. That resolution reiterated previous Security Council calls for Israel to stop expanding its illegal settlements in the occupied West Bank, which violate the Fourth Geneva Convention and a landmark ruling by the International Court of Justice.

These aren't "skeletons", they're her views. :yeshrug:

...then look at the names missing from the resolution. For me, Senator Markey's absence is notable given his previous stances on Israel and the ICJ.
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I just had a argumentative debate about Harris with my dad and he still believes Harris would be perfect for the VP if not the president and he doesn't realize how problematic she is and Baby Boomers like him don't give a f_ck which is why if Democrats are really going to push Harris on us, then it's a guaranteed Trump win.

Baby Boomers and older Generation Xers are holding us back from progression in this country.
 
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intra vires said:
Sorry Dora you know I adore ya but I have to post this poll...



:picard: Buttigieg?

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Pete rising, Gillibrand not going anywhere... I've got money riding on this.:mjgrin:
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I always say polls mean nothing this far out but remove biden and the top two choices look good to me :ehh:
 
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BlackBrainChild said:
I just had an argumentative debate about Harris with my dad and he still believes Harris would be perfect for the VP if not the president and he doesn't realize how problematic she is and Baby Boomers like him don't give a f_ck which is why if Democrats are really going to push Harris on us, then it's a guaranteed Trump win.

Baby Boomers and older Generation Xers are holding us back from progression in this country.
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Did he specify why he likes her? For me, framing arguments in the correct context is important when it comes to debates.

I'm of the mind that most of the Democrats running can beat Trump and a lot can go wrong for him in the coming months. Now that says nothing about progress; however, it disables any incoherent and baseless arguments about bad politics (Biden, Harris, O'Rourke, etc.) somehow being more electable than good politics (Sanders, Warren, etc.).

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I always say polls mean nothing this far out but remove Biden and the top two choices look good to me :ehh:
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It depends on what you're looking for. When I'm looking at polling it's usually to measure the progress of newbies like Buttigieg, O'Rourke, Yang, Williamson, and Castro or to see what messaging is resonating with voters. It's also funny to see people like Gillibrand and Klobuchar being viewed as the non-entities they are.​
 
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intra vires said:
Did he specify why he likes her? For me, framing arguments in the correct context is important when it comes to debates.

I'm of the mind that most of the Democrats running can beat Trump and a lot can go wrong for him in the coming months. Now that says nothing about progress; however, it disables any incoherent and baseless arguments about bad politics (Biden, Harris, O'Rourke, etc.) somehow being more electable than good politics (Sanders, Warren, etc.).


It depends on what you're looking for. When I'm looking at polling it's usually to measure the progress of newbies like Buttigieg, O'Rourke, Yang, Williamson, and Castro or to see what messaging is resonating with voters. It's also funny to see people like Gillibrand and Klobuchar being viewed as the non-entities they are.​
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No, it was typical platitudes and identity politics B.S. For most people in his generation, policy isn't important. Content isn't important to people in his generation. The fact a person is Democrat and "not the other guy" is all they need to vote for somebody. I'm not saying older people are less informed, but the younger generations actually care about policy and records more over empty platitudes and "charm." Younger Generation Xers, Millenials, and Generation Z are more high information voters.

I disagree with you about any Democrat beating Trump. You actually have to inspire and energize voters to vote for you over the other person. It doesn't necessarily have to be politics, but besides Bernie I don't see any other Democrat who could get people energized enough to give a damn and vote.
 
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BlackBrainChild said:
No, it was typical platitudes and identiy politics B.S. For most people in his generation, policy isn't important. Content isn't important to people in his generation. The fact a person is Democrat and "not the other guy" is all they need to vote for somebody. I'm not saying older people are less informed, but the younger generations actually care about policy and records more over empty platitudes and "charm." Younger Generation Xers, Millenials, and Generation Z are more high information voters.

I disagree with you about any Democrat beating Trump. You actually have to inspire and energize voters to vote for you over the other person. It doesn't necessarily have to be politics, but besides Bernie I don't see any other Democrat who could get people energized enough to give a damn and vote.
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yeah. everyone in mainstream swears that Bernie cant win but imo hes the only dem that has a shot at trump, none of the other ones are charismatic enough to get away with the bullshyt theyre gonna be saying in debates and rallys. nobody is gonna vote for the typical centrist dem talking in circles and word salads and platitudes. none of them can call out trumps bullshyt on policy like bernie can because theyre all handcuffed by their donors.
 
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yeah. everyone in mainstream swears that Bernie cant win but imo hes the only dem that has a shot at trump, none of the other ones are charismatic enough to get away with the bullshyt theyre gonna be saying in debates and rallys. nobody is gonna vote for the typical centrist dem talking in circles and word salads and platitudes. none of them can call out trumps bullshyt on policy like bernie can because theyre all handcuffed by their donors.
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Biden especially couldn't call Trump out because his whole political career was shotty.
 
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