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Congratulations but that doesn't negate my point.
so more people were willing to give their money to Bernie but because of one poll of 600 people in Iowa, with only 12 percent of warrens total saying they already made up their mind for sure on warren, shes somehow more popular ? not to mention bernie is ahead of hr in cali and ny the two biggest populations if we even want to go crazy on polls cause to me more people parting with their money for one candidate makes them more popular imo
 

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so more people were willing to give their money to Bernie but because of one poll of 600 people in Iowa, with only 12 percent of warrens total saying they already made up their mind for sure on warren, shes somehow more popular ? not to mention bernie is ahead of hr in cali and ny the two biggest populations if we even want to go crazy on polls cause to me more people parting with their money for one candidate makes them more popular imo

I keep bringing this up at times, but I think the polling vs the donor numbers is worth raising the question of whether or not traditional pollsters are accurately gauging Bernie's support. Not on a nefarious tip or anything, but Bernie appeals to bases that haven't shown up in large numbers in the past so they could be getting discounted in polls. I think that would explain Bernie bodying everybody on small donations and hitting marks across a bunch of demo's but his poll numbers staying steady. It'll be interesting to see how that bares out and if these demos do show up in larger numbers for Bernie than the normal expectations (and that could inform some strategies going forward).
 
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:russ: You talm bout the biggest Bernie cheerleader of them all. That cac not objective at all.


Every time warren gets mentioned this man got the :bustback::bustback:


Breh, Michael Brooks's show and analysis on US and world politics is the best show out right now, hands down. It's a disservice to the discourse to minimize his critiques of Warren's position from a socialist perspective and him demonstrably illustrating the differences between Bernie's platform and world view vs Warren's as just him being an angry white Bernie Bro.
 
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I keep bringing this up at times, but I think the polling vs the donor numbers is worth raising the question of whether or not traditional pollsters are accurately gauging Bernie's support. Not on a nefarious tip or anything, but Bernie appeals to bases that haven't shown up in large numbers in the past so they could be getting discounted in polls. I think that would explain Bernie bodying everybody on small donations and hitting marks across a bunch of demo's but his poll numbers staying steady. It'll be interesting to see how that bares out and if these demos do show up in larger numbers for Bernie than the normal expectations (and that could inform some strategies going forward).


I've made a similar point a few weeks ago. Not even taking the press coverage of Bernie into account because the bias against him is well documented and obvious at this point. But strictly going by polling, which dependent on framing is still one the more objective ways of gauging support, it doesn't square away with the even more objective data point, which is donor numbers.

Bernie has historically unheard of small donor support. It's hard to make the argument that people are fleeing from Bernie and his message when millions and millions of regular everyday people, alot of whom are broke as hell, keep sending him their money.
 

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Breh, Michael Brooks's show and analysis on US and world politics is the best show out right now, hands down. It's a disservice to the discourse to minimize his critiques of Warren's position from a socialist perspective and him demonstrably illustrating the differences between Bernie's platform and world view vs Warren's as just him being an angry white Bernie Bro.
this is why i want him to stop attacking a candidate he's gonna end up voting for...
 

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No, it’s not an attack if you point out who has better policy. That’s fine show the masses the pros and cons to each side and let people make the decision on what candidate. Don’t come to a discussion with a condescending attitude like whatever you believe is superior because it’s only make you look like an a$$hole.

Everyone has blind supporters don’t kid yourself breh. Bernie has a movement which is great! But You’re able to get more casuals on the bandwagon that way and it’s a credit to Bernie because him and his campaign have worked hard to build it. Casuals are usually blind supporters. I didn’t call you a blind supporter don’t take what I’m saying personally. I guarantee you all Warren supporters in here argue with logic and not emotion, give examples of us “getting in our feelings and shyt”:russ:

I listen to Michael brooks almost everyday on Sam seders show and he’s great I just don’t like when he goes on his emotional tangents.
RIGHT.

I actually prefer The Majority Report to The Young Turks... and I've listened to EVERY episode of the Michael Brooks show. EVERY ONE...but his attacks on Warren are just bad policy and i wouldn't be surprised if he's being paid by the Sanders campaign. Dude is not thinking this through and instead of going down swinging, it'd be smart to pull his punches and focus on sharp criticism, but not unwavering sycophancy.
 

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I've noticed this is the new line of attack against Warren, and it's kind of stupid. Talking about a candidate's base a year before the actual DNC is ridiculous. Should she win the nomination, Warren's base will be the Democratic Party's base. She literally can't win the nomination without support from the broader Democratic electorate. Just like Bernie's can't win with his base right now. He has terrible numbers with older POC, who actually make up a relatively larger share of the Democratic coalition than his base. If Bernie or Liz don't have a broader appeal, the primary results will bear that out. Neither of them win the nomination (or general) if we go with the dumb idea that bases are locked-in and immutable 2 years out from the election.
Not stupid at all, not enough working class whites fukked with Hillary and she lost. Never too early to worry about the demographics that may pose you problems.
 

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Lmao none of these folks kept that energy with Warren in 2015 or when she was polling in the single digits? Now she's the next hilary and the wine track candidate. Jesus fukking christ. You got these paid bernie bros even saying she's where she is because of the native American shyt utilizing Trumpian talking points. I'm officially done with Bernie bros. I saw the switch up live and in person. Absolutely disgraceful.
 
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