2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[Pressure]

Thread is so much more peaceful with nap on ignore

Facts. I'd rather argue with you and @storyteller everyday about our differences than
look at spam from a dishonest actor.

At least I get value from the former.

 

[Pressure]

No one took those clowns seriously, they were just tokens for the GOP to say, "Hey we aren't racist, we have black candidates too!". They never were going to win the Republican primaries, let alone become President.

No one should, but there are plenty of white folk that use them at "Gotchas!"

 

[Secure Da Bag]

I believe Elizabeth Warren is being honest about her positions and policy proposals.

Nothing about her voting republican decades ago convinces me to believe otherwise.

Agreed.

Similarly, nothing about Bernie Sanders voting for the crime bill leads me to believe he's currently for draconian crime laws.

I dunno about that. What happens when another crime bill comes along but they add a section to fully fund research for breast and ovarian cancer and osteoporsis?

 

[Pressure]

Agreed.



I dunno about that. What happens when another crime bill comes along but they add a section to fully fund research for breast and ovarian cancer and osteoporsis?

Both Bernie and Liz supported the more liberal criminal justice reform bill. But sometimes you have to take what you can. It's a good jumping off point to pass the more liberal and moral bipartisan bill if we take back control.

 

[Pressure]

This leads me to something that @King Kreole alluded to earlier. What are we willing to sacrifice to push through the most ambitious progressive proposals.

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Both Bernie and Liz supported the more liberal criminal justice reform bill. But sometimes you have to take what you can. It's a good jumping off point to pass the more liberal and moral bipartisan bill if we take back control.

I mean Bernie didn't support the last crime bill and still voted for it. If another bad bill came across but had something his constituents wanted, Bernie would probably vote for it.

I hope that we win enough seats in both houses of Congress to pass progressive bills.

 

[Pressure]

@tru_m.a.c might be one of the few people that's picked up on it, but I've moved further left from a staunch moderate position just from having a child who had to spend weeks in the NICU. Despite might experience turning out well, my interactions with the other families really opened my eyes. I had people I was with day in and day out get hit with crippling bills when one of their twins passed. I dunno, this country can afford better.

shyt, it shouldnt cost me near a condo just to get my son home.

 

[Pressure]

I mean Bernie didn't support the last crime bill and still voted for it. If another bad bill came across but had something his constituents wanted, Bernie would probably vote for it.

I hope that we win enough seats in both houses of Congress to pass progressive bills.

That's my point. There's nothing about Warren's progressive record we shouldn't believe.

And if we have to go back 30 years for a gotcha then we're doing exactly what we say we hate.

 

[Warren Moon]

I believe Elizabeth Warren is being honest about her positions and policy proposals.

Nothing about her voting republican decades ago convinces me to believe otherwise.

Similarly, nothing about Bernie Sanders voting for the crime bill leads me to believe he's currently for draconian crime laws.

Ain’t nothing wrong with your position. Inevitably more stuff will come out about her. She hasn’t gotten anyone to attack her yet. She’s running free and clear currently.


When that recent stuff does come out hopefully you believe her recent actions reflects on what type of person she is.

I’ll leave it at that. ​

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

She’s running free and clear currently.

She's an Ivy League lawyer white woman who pretended to be a Native American for decades. The media class people who claim they love POC decided to give her a total pass on this.

This should tell everyone that something is up.

It's not a coincidence Nap suddenly changed his tune on Warren at the exact same time MSNBC did.

 

[storyteller]

Ain’t nothing wrong with your position. Inevitably more stuff will come out about her. She hasn’t gotten anyone to attack her yet. She’s running free and clear currently.


When that recent stuff does come out hopefully you believe her recent actions reflects on what type of person she is.

I’ll leave it at that. ​

Co-sign that she hadn't really gotten attacked yet, but if the comments in this article reflect how they intend to approach attacking her...I honestly think she'll be fine. Asking the "I have a plan" woman how her policies will be paid for seems like they'll just give her the extra opportunities to explain her ideas (and I believe she's the best candidate period at breaking down proposals in digestible ways)

Edit my bad: link Warren lovefest ending as 2020 competitors fear her rise

 

[afterlife2009]

 

[the next guy]

 

[eXodus]

This nikka here

 

[John Reena]

I respect that answer, all dems should be like that this election. Idgaf attitude for whoever the nominee is

Don’t think she’s a Manchuria candidate. But I do think she’s a liar and pandering to the progressive side.

A lot of warren fans tout her honesty and transparency. That’s clearly not true

Hilary 2.0 has been full of it. She lied about being Native American and everytime a reporter asks her how her pandering nonsense plans will be paid for, she starts juelzing.