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Yea, sorry, Bernie doesn’t come across as someone who’d be effective at getting any of the shyt he babbles about done. 28 years in Congress and sponsored by far fewer bills than the rest of the nominees including those who have only been there two years.

all talk, no action FOH :camby:
And this is further proof of this.

He’s not a serious candidate

 

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as of now, the (potential) candidates i'm interested in really getting to know:

- biden and harris - past positions aside, i'd like to see the policies and platform they present and run on for the future
- warren - the progressive who seems most likely to actually get the things she talks about done
- brown - kinda the same thing as warren, but a little less progressive (which is fine)
 

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Even in the general?

i'll answer you here, told you, i'm going to stay out that thread. bernie bros remind me of the worst of the internet. and i'd be highly disappointed if he's the nominee. he's spent so much of his career playing the sideline being the disaffected "independent" who's too cool to participate in the politics of washington that he's come off as nothing but an idealist without substance. i'm also not really here for an 80 yr old president and he's said plenty of questionable things in the past including proving (IMO) that he doesn't understand the plight of underrepresented minorities nor even know how to connect with us. if he's the nom, i'm expecting a lame duck presidency full of nothing being done. like i said in my post above, warren both seems radical and action oriented, if i had to choose a nom from each bucket (progressive, liberal, centrist dems), warren comes across as a much better choice than bernie.
 

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i'll answer you here, told you, i'm going to stay out that thread. bernie bros remind me of the worst of the internet. and i'd be highly disappointed if he's the nominee. he's spent so much of his career playing the sideline being the disaffected "independent" who's too cool to participate in the politics of washington that he's come off as nothing but an idealist without substance. i'm also not really here for an 80 yr old president and he's said plenty of questionable things in the past including proving (IMO) that he doesn't understand the plight of underrepresented minorities nor even know how to connect with us. if he's the nom, i'm expecting a lame duck presidency full of nothing being done. like i said in my post above, warren both seems radical and action oriented, if i had to choose a nom from each bucket (progressive, liberal, centrist dems), warren comes across as a much better choice than bernie.
So is that a no?
 

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Bernie Sanders was the roll call amendment king from 1995 to 2007

The "Bernie doesn't get anything done" meme is off base.

But the sparse number of bills isn’t surprising. Volden and Vanderbilt University’s Alan Wiseman assess the legislative effectiveness of House members by comparing their records to a benchmark. According to this analysis, Sanders has either met or exceeded expectations during his tenure in the House (bold indicates Republican Congresses)

Lawmakers who belong to the party in control are five times more likely to have their bills go anywhere than minority party members, according to Volden. So Sanders’ legislative approach may seem like fixating on small potatoes, but for an independent who caucuses with the minority party, it’s a smart strategy.

"He could have either resigned himself to that fate, changed the nature of his legislation and coalition-building strategy, or offered amendments on the floor," Volden said. "He chose the third of these paths, making him more influential in shaping policy than if he had taken the first path. Why he did not take the second path is an open question — likely linked to his ideological views."
 

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it goes both ways, but i'd be remiss to act like i'd be waiting to jump at voting for a president who's unlikely to accomplish shyt.
For some but I will support whoever wins the Democratic nomination. Trump is that terrible, to me at least. :manny:
But I got no problem with people voting their conscience. If you vote third party I don't have any knives out but I thought party unity is supposed to be the playbook right now.
 

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For some but I will support whoever wins the Democratic nomination. Trump is that terrible, to me at least. :manny:
But I got no problem with people voting their conscience. If you vote third party I don't have any knives out but I thought party unity is supposed to be the playbook right now.
it's needed, but bernie isn't the candidate to make that happen. we can be idealistic or we can be realistic...
 
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