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Young voters showed up at historic numbers in 2008 and 2012 and in the 2018 midterms and didn’t have shot catered to them. Moreover, it is statistically shown that there is not a great correlation between what the public wants and what politicians do. You keep saying that young voters just need to vote, and I agree but let’s not pretend that politicians do what they want even when they do vote.

I agree with you on most things, but I think you're creating a bit of strawman or I'm not being clear.

So I'm saying a couple things:

  1. When young voters show up they get candidates they like (Obama was popular in 08 and 12)
  2. Politicians do not engage low voter turnout demographics who choose not to vote.
  3. Young and younger voters make up the same percentage of voters as baby boomers and the silent generation.
  4. As a result they have to turn out in historic numbers or they will always be at the will of the later
AOC was a bartender for a reason - most millennials her age with student loans will not be doing all that campaigning.
She said she was a bartender because she wanted to move back home and help her mother after her father passed away.

Not because she couldn't find work and was thus underwater with student debt.

It was a conscious choice, but it explains why she worked for Bernie and Medicare for all appealed to her.

*she left her bartending job to work on the campaign


Old people sit around and watch corporate owned news and do nothing else and then go vote in the local nursing home.
That's one of the original activist generations and anti activist generations. They're retired, have time and I don't see a reason to criticize them for voting. Though many of them are prime victims of voter fraud and oppression.

Further, the people who vote the least are poor people and millennials are disproportionately broke. The reason you hear all the bytching after the fact is because they were unaware before it. I’m not excusing nonvoters but for you to act as if we live Australia is a bit absurd.

If younger voters voted at the same clip as their older counterparts did when they were their age they'd have more palatable elected officials.

In 1972, the first year 18- to 20-year-olds were allowed to vote, 55 percent of 18- to 29-year-olds cast ballots. Only 43 percent of that age group voted in 2016 and just 16 percent turned out to vote in 2014.

Turnout among young voters is typically 20-30 percentage points lower than among older citizens.



However, you're right on some of these factors. Schools don't prepare students to vote, voter registration forms are easily purged if they aren't perfect, and automatic voter registration would help offset many of these issues.

There's also the issue of decades if stigmatizing these idea of talking politics in public, in private, or among friends/family.

We also likely agree that candidates targeting young voters increases their likely hold of being first time voters.

But we also know that candidates don't target non voting populations.
 

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I’m seriously concerned people keep floating warren as a viable choice. Dems. Don’t be stupid.

I’m telling you right now, no woman is beating Trump. That’s a sure bet.
Sexism in this country is worse that its racism. And we know the depth of the racial well.

But Warren is not Hilary. Hilary, to me, is the student who really is a C student but sucks up hard enough to get an A. Warren is an A student who sometimes receives Bs by teachers as punishment for getting too many high marks.
 

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Sexism in this country is worse that its racism. And we know the depth of the racial well.

But Warren is not Hilary. Hilary, to me, is the student who really is a C student but sucks up hard enough to get an A. Warren is an A student who sometimes receives Bs by teachers as punishment for getting too many high marks.
Hillary is a soulless corporate puppet but she ain’t no damn C student. She’s a wonk.
 

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I’m seriously concerned people keep floating warren as a viable choice. Dems. Don’t be stupid.

I’m telling you right now, no woman is beating Trump. That’s a sure bet.

I'm torn on this. Sexism is real and could hurt Warren or any female candidate.

But at the same time, how much do we want to cater to sexists and racists? Seems like that path just leads to "Only white guys should run for POTUS".
 

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I'm torn on this. Sexism is real and could hurt Warren or any female candidate.

But at the same time, how much do we want to cater to sexists and racists? Seems like that path just leads to "Only white guys should run for POTUS".
Exactly. It becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy. Just vote for whoever you think is the best candidate!
 

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I’m seriously concerned people keep floating warren as a viable choice. Dems. Don’t be stupid.

I’m telling you right now, no woman is beating Trump. That’s a sure bet.

I been saying this for years. It’s not right, but a large number of men in this country don’t believe in women having “dominion” over men. I know it’s not what progressives wanna hear BUT ITS TRUE. Plus, Trump would DESTROY her in a debate.
 
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