2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[the next guy]

But Bernie is still losing the same demographic he lost last time and those demographics tend to the largest active voter demographics during the primaries and particularly in the south.

So clearly you don't.

And let me step it further.

Did Hillary lose because she didn't campaign in the midwest /rust belt or because people didn't like her?

Obviously both.

Because some of us know what it takes to win this election.

Just like some of us knew in 2016 that Bernie was the way to win and yet somehow, a polarizing candidate that the middle of the country HATED was propped up as the nominee.

Well Biden can talk to those people.

The problem is we'll win and in 2022 we'll all be here talking about the same embarrassing incidents we did with the president before. Biden winning exposes the face that america has a culture problem.

 

[wire28]

But Bernie is still losing the same demographic he lost last time and those demographics tend to the largest active voter demographics during the primaries and particularly in the south.

So clearly you don't.

And let me step it further.

Did Hillary lose because she didn't campaign in the midwest /rust belt or because people didn't like her?

Well that’s because the suits are propping up other nominees now clearly you need to retake Bernie math 101

 

[No1]

But Bernie is still losing the same demographic he lost last time and those demographics tend to the largest active voter demographics during the primaries and particularly in the south.

So clearly you don't.

And let me step it further.

Did Hillary lose because she didn't campaign in the midwest /rust belt or because people didn't like her?

Bernie is doing better with black voters than any candidate besides Biden. Democratic Party voters are not reflective of general election voters. You’re playing dumb. Barack Obama to HRC in 08: I can win over your voters, I don’t think you can win over mine.

Hillary Clinton won the nomination and then experienced the first drop in black turnout in 20 years. She experienced 47 percent voter turnout in Milwaukee. Primaries are filled with your most stringent Democrats who are connected to various Democratic networks. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are struggling to penetrate it despite those groups preferring their ideas. To act as if that is an indictment on them entirely is disingenuous. Older voters will vote based on who they like and not policy. It has been shown over and over. Anyone pretending otherwise is just running away from the obvious truth. Black millennials are not turning out for a centrist and neither are those working class people of color in the Midwest. You’re spending more time critiquing the left than offering any solution to those problems. And that’s really all you @dtownreppin214 and @wire28 and @acri1 do.

You keep saying “get those young people to vote then." How about we make Election Day a fukking holiday so that senior citizens aren’t chilling at the polls from 8 AM while I’m trying to vote on a lunch break.

 

[Pressure]

Bernie is doing better with black voters than any candidate besides Biden. Democratic Party voters are not reflective of general election voters. You’re playing dumb. Barack Obama to HRC in 08: I can win over your voters, I don’t think you can win over mine.

Hillary Clinton won the nomination and then experienced the first drop in black turnout in 20 years. She experienced 47 percent voter turnout in Milwaukee. Primaries are filled with your most stringent Democrats who are connected to various Democratic networks. Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders are struggling to penetrate it despite those groups preferring their ideas. To act as if that is an indictment on them entirely is disingenuous. Older voters will vote based on who they like and not policy. It has been shown over and over. Anyone pretending otherwise is just running away from the obvious truth. Black millennials are not turning out for a centrist and neither are those working class people of color in the Midwest. You’re spending more time critiquing the left than offering any solution to those problems. And that’s really all you @dtownreppin214 and @wire28 and @acri1 do.

You keep saying “get those young people to vote then." How about we make Election Day a fukking holiday so that senior citizens aren’t chilling at the polls from 8 AM while I’m trying to vote on a lunch break.

We're specifically talking about Bernie Sanders outperforming Joe Biden who according to polls is the preferred candidate.

In 2016 we were talking about Bernie Sanders losing that same vote to Hillary Clinton who was the eventual nominee and his primary competition.

Prior to Joe Biden throwing his name in the hate we posted tons of data showing how well Bernie Sanders is polling with blacks compared to other voters as evidence that he had overcome his 2016 hurdle.

I've responded to this, by consistently showing that he's always polled well among black voters, but he has not always polled well as there first choice candidate. Considering the decision is binary that matters.

Disregarding it, in part, disregards why he is unable to penetrate the very voters he or Warren will need to secure the nomination.

And I'm not playing dumb, Sanders supporters are setting up for the same failure as before. Sure you could possibly win the general election, but that means absolutely nothing if you don't secure the nomination.

And the south isn't nearly as liberal as you alls northern comfort zones. Culture and personality plays a part and not just saying my policies will help.

For all the jokes about hot sauce in the bag and doing the cha cha slide, that shyt works.

 

[Pressure]

The argument you and others often make is that older, less progressive voters should vote for progressives because millennials won't turn out for them. But it's precisely why older voters get there preferred candidates through.

Younger voters need to become a consistent voting block in order to draw the attention of politicians. This is common sense. It's been discussed time and time again.

Or...they could wait until old people die and scrape up whatever is left of the country.

 

[Hood Critic]

Joe Biden is talking himself out of the nomination day by day. He might be successfully pandering to the "white anxiety" voters but he's losing on the other end.

 

[Hood Critic]

But Bernie is still losing the same demographic he lost last time.....

I am going to quote this strictly for emphasis because its the truth.

Bernie is not going to change enough minds to get the nomination, especially with Warren out classing him.

 

[intra vires]

Just another illustration of how some will never take on those in power.

 

[ExodusNirvana]

The problem here is

1. Are these people being honest?

2. Who will they vote for in the booth?

 

[Berniewood Hogan]

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Dusty Bake Activate]

 

[No1]

The argument you and others often make is that older, less progressive voters should vote for progressives because millennials won't turn out for them. But it's precisely why older voters get there preferred candidates through.

Younger voters need to become a consistent voting block in order to draw the attention of politicians. This is common sense. It's been discussed time and time again.

Or...they could wait until old people die and scrape up whatever is left of the country.

Young voters showed up at historic numbers in 2008 and 2012 and in the 2018 midterms and didn’t have shot catered to them. Moreover, it is statistically shown that there is not a great correlation between what the public wants and what politicians do. You keep saying that young voters just need to vote, and I agree but let’s not pretend that politicians do what they want even when they do vote. The problem is that we have baby boomers, which are the first generation of old people on America history to vote against the interests of young people. Baby boomers were more conservative than their parents were. You need money to get into politics and you need the time to organize. I really think you ignore just how much time it takes to be involved and aware of what is happening politically. I get fliers in the mail all the time and have no idea anyone is running or who they are. The only people who will vote in something like that are old people. AOC was a bartender for a reason - most millennials her age with student loans will not be doing all that campaigning. I know much less about local politics now than when I was a political science major. Old people sit around and watch corporate owned news and do nothing else and then go vote in the local nursing home. Further, the people who vote the least are poor people and millennials are disproportionately broke. The reason you hear all the bytching after the fact is because they were unaware before it. I’m not excusing nonvoters but for you to act as if we live Australia is a bit absurd.

 

[Red Shield]

The problem here is

1. Are these people being honest?

2. Who will they vote for in the booth?

You already know

 

[DirtyD]