FAH1223

Go Wizards, Go Terps, Go Packers!
Staff member
Supporter
Joined
May 16, 2012
Messages
73,788
Reputation
8,542
Daps
222,165
Reppin
WASHINGTON, DC
@FAH1223 the Sanders campaign is struggling at takeoff. I'm a bit surprised. I always imagined they'd hit the ground running based off of 2016.

Yes, it is very surprisng. I like Faiz as campaign manager but working for Harry Reid and then ACLU to Presidential campaign has to be a learning curve... at the same time, there is a lack of top notch professional campaign experience with the leadership. It is a very young staff. It is definitely showing.

The wild card of course is they have a massive volunteer network, raised a lot of money, and Bernie himself got more energy than people 50 years younger than him. But their strategy needs fine tuning and they better get it done this summer because by the Fall it may be too late.
 

☑︎#VoteDemocrat

The Original
Bushed
WOAT
Supporter
Joined
Dec 9, 2012
Messages
310,140
Reputation
-34,205
Daps
620,156
Reppin
The Deep State
Warren just crushed the DAILY KOS poll :wow:


ScreenShot2019-06-11at5.00.17PM.png



Daily Kos Democratic Straw Poll: It's hot and it's really summer edition




@dj-method-x @wire28 @Return to Forever @ezrathegreat @Jello Biafra @humble forever @Darth Nubian @Dameon Farrow @Piff Perkins @BigMoneyGrip @Lucky_Lefty @johnedwarduado @Armchair Militant @panopticon @88m3
 

JoogJoint

In my own league.
Joined
Mar 25, 2014
Messages
14,265
Reputation
1,641
Daps
40,408
Reppin
Outer Space
@FAH1223 the Sanders campaign is struggling at takeoff. I'm a bit surprised. I always imagined they'd hit the ground running based off of 2016.

Warren is siphoning Bernie's supporters. Warren and Sanders are fighting over the same supporters and Warren got the JUICE right now.

If anything, Sanders supporters should be supporting both Sanders AND Warren against Biden. Either one should be a win for progressives.
 

No1

Retired.
Supporter
Joined
Apr 30, 2012
Messages
30,557
Reputation
4,838
Daps
68,326
@FAH1223 the Sanders campaign is struggling at takeoff. I'm a bit surprised. I always imagined they'd hit the ground running based off of 2016.
The struggle really has more to do with Warren taking away college educated people away from him with her plans. She is laying them out early and with a scholarly tilt despite the fact that they won’t go that way in practice. It makes her the more “serious” candidate. What Sanders did today was embrace his label because it would be slapped on him anyway. Whether that works remains to be seen. He has to fight over a demographic he had naturally last election and she is a woman so they get their woman candidate. If anything he needs to change his slogan to something emphasis his consistency on these issues. He and Warren will say the same thing and then she’ll say this is how I’ll do it. His mantra has been to point out how he was ridiculed in 2016 instead of saying he represents the “silenced majority” to play off an old Reagan and Republican phrase. His other problem is that as an outsider, he will get less access to the best policy wonks.
 
Last edited:

storyteller

Veteran
Joined
May 23, 2012
Messages
16,602
Reputation
5,222
Daps
63,394
Reppin
NYC
The struggle really has more to do with Warren taking away college educated people away from him with her plans. She is laying them out early and with a scholarly tilt despite the fact that they won’t go that way in practice. It makes her the more “serious” candidate. What Sanders did today was embrace his label because it would be slapped on him anyway. Whether that works remains to be seen.

Yep, I'm not saying it's good strategy, but I think it was the only option. Being associated as socialist was inevitable based on how he became known, trying to define it in his own terms is about the only shot he's got.
 

FAH1223

Go Wizards, Go Terps, Go Packers!
Staff member
Supporter
Joined
May 16, 2012
Messages
73,788
Reputation
8,542
Daps
222,165
Reppin
WASHINGTON, DC
You really think Bernie could dissociate with "Socialist" or even distance himself from that title? I don't see that working out.

He’s already made a dem socialism speech before :yeshrug:

The campaign seems stuck in 2016.
 

storyteller

Veteran
Joined
May 23, 2012
Messages
16,602
Reputation
5,222
Daps
63,394
Reppin
NYC
He’s already made a dem socialism speech before :yeshrug:

The campaign seems stuck in 2016.

So he should pivot to calling himself a new dealer? Those tweets seem like they're saying he has to back off of Socialism to succeed. I don't think that's a realistic option for him at all. He has to lean into it, it's the elephant in the room.
 
Top