Jhoon
Spontaneous Mishaps and Hijinks
And what if he doesn’t win the nomination this go round?
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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And what if he doesn’t win the nomination this go round?
Jhoon
Spontaneous Mishaps and Hijinks
I donated.
JoogJoint
In my own league.
I think he enjoys it since they never follow up with, how did you come to this conclusion despite being unable to beat Hillary.
well the general election wasnt rigged with pre-pledged superdelegates. the DNC primary was
different kinda contestand let's not forget that bernie beat hillary in all the important swing states that she lost to trump
very relevant evidence
That's not what the Mueller saidwell the general election wasnt rigged with pre-pledged superdelegates. the DNC primary was
and let's not forget that bernie beat hillary in all the important swing states that she lost to trump
AnonymityX1000
Veteran
Bernie throwing subs at Biden. 
Berniewood Hogan
IT'S BERNIE SANDERS WITH A STEEL CHAIR!
To dead this once and for all, the reason Bernie would have performed better in the general is twofold:
1. He would not forget to campaign in the Midwest and he's definitely more exciting to those folks than Hillary
2. He isn't psychotically hated by millions of voters due to a 25 year long smear campaign across conservative media
So, in summary, Berniewouldhavewon.
washingtonpost.com
Opinion | Kamala Harris can put her record front and center
By Jennifer Rubin
5-6 minutes
Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.) gestures in front of Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) before speaking during the California Democratic Party convention in San Francisco on Saturday. (Jeff Chiu/AP)
Jennifer Rubin
Opinion writer covering politics and policy, foreign and domestic
Going into the 2020 presidential primary, Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.) and her team were understandably nervous about her record as San Francisco’s district attorney and California’s attorney general. Democrats’ focus on criminal-justice reform, discriminatory sentencing and the death penalty would make any former prosecutor who had been charged with enforcing laws and incarcerating criminals a tad nervous. In retrospect, Harris’s support for holding criminal penalties over the heads of parents of truant children seems unduly harsh.
Her book “The Truths We Hold” defends her record by pointing to her record in obtaining a huge settlement from banks after the financial crisis, establishing a program (“Back on Track”) to reintroduce young, low-level drug offenders into society after they served their sentences, sponsoring a bill to outlaw the “gay panic” defense and requiring anti-bias training for police.
During the campaign, Harris tends not to speak about her record as a prosecutor, a reasonable tactic for someone whose candidacy depends on gaining the support of progressives and African Americans. That might have been a miscalculation.
Here’s a snippet from her remarks to the Service Employees International Union in California:
Hey, that’s a pretty good story, and what’s more, no one in the race has done anything comparable.
When you think about it, who among the top candidates is really going to challenge her record as a prosecutor? Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) voted for the 1994 crime bill and has a shaky record on gun safety measures. Former vice president Joe Biden helped write that 1994 crime bill. South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg has an issue arising from his firing of an African American police chief, and really has very little support among African Americans.
In sum, Harris’s record as a prosecutor might not be as much of a negative as she thought, and it could be an asset if used strategically. Sure, it’s a risk, but she is already stressing her prosecutorial skills, arguing that she’s the candidate best equipped to shred President Trump in the general election. (Trump seems to agree. He calls her “nasty” — the all-purpose insult he directs at women who challenge him.)
Voters can understand that as a prosecutor she enforced the laws and defended her office; a legislative role or chief executive position allows her to crusade against the system. Moreover, who better to champion criminal-justice reforms such as elimination of the death penalty, legalizing marijuana, pardoning nonviolent drug offenders and rooting out implicit bias than a former prosecutor who has seen the system from the inside?
In addition, unlike other Senate Democrats, Harris has actual executive experience heading the office of attorney general in California (and more than 4,000 attorneys).
Harris has rolled out other proposals on taxes (a $500-per-month credit for couples making less than $60,000 and singles making less than $30,000), a boost in teachers’ salaries, a rent subsidy and equal pay. Based on her position on the Senate Intelligence Committee, she can speak with authority on cybersecurity. However, her position on Medicare-for-all has been muddled and her overall message less than clear.
Harris might find a crisper message if she took seriously her slogan (“Kamala D. Harris for the People”). She actually has a record of going after abuse of power and financial crimes. What better theme could there be when going up against Trump?
washingtonpost.com
Opinion | Kamala Harris can put her record front and center
By Jennifer Rubin
5-6 minutes
Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.) gestures in front of Rep. Barbara Lee (D-Calif.) before speaking during the California Democratic Party convention in San Francisco on Saturday. (Jeff Chiu/AP)
Jennifer Rubin
Opinion writer covering politics and policy, foreign and domestic
Going into the 2020 presidential primary, Sen. Kamala D. Harris (D-Calif.) and her team were understandably nervous about her record as San Francisco’s district attorney and California’s attorney general. Democrats’ focus on criminal-justice reform, discriminatory sentencing and the death penalty would make any former prosecutor who had been charged with enforcing laws and incarcerating criminals a tad nervous. In retrospect, Harris’s support for holding criminal penalties over the heads of parents of truant children seems unduly harsh.
Her book “The Truths We Hold” defends her record by pointing to her record in obtaining a huge settlement from banks after the financial crisis, establishing a program (“Back on Track”) to reintroduce young, low-level drug offenders into society after they served their sentences, sponsoring a bill to outlaw the “gay panic” defense and requiring anti-bias training for police.
During the campaign, Harris tends not to speak about her record as a prosecutor, a reasonable tactic for someone whose candidacy depends on gaining the support of progressives and African Americans. That might have been a miscalculation.
Here’s a snippet from her remarks to the Service Employees International Union in California:
Hey, that’s a pretty good story, and what’s more, no one in the race has done anything comparable.
When you think about it, who among the top candidates is really going to challenge her record as a prosecutor? Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) voted for the 1994 crime bill and has a shaky record on gun safety measures. Former vice president Joe Biden helped write that 1994 crime bill. South Bend Mayor Pete Buttigieg has an issue arising from his firing of an African American police chief, and really has very little support among African Americans.
In sum, Harris’s record as a prosecutor might not be as much of a negative as she thought, and it could be an asset if used strategically. Sure, it’s a risk, but she is already stressing her prosecutorial skills, arguing that she’s the candidate best equipped to shred President Trump in the general election. (Trump seems to agree. He calls her “nasty” — the all-purpose insult he directs at women who challenge him.)
Voters can understand that as a prosecutor she enforced the laws and defended her office; a legislative role or chief executive position allows her to crusade against the system. Moreover, who better to champion criminal-justice reforms such as elimination of the death penalty, legalizing marijuana, pardoning nonviolent drug offenders and rooting out implicit bias than a former prosecutor who has seen the system from the inside?
In addition, unlike other Senate Democrats, Harris has actual executive experience heading the office of attorney general in California (and more than 4,000 attorneys).
Harris has rolled out other proposals on taxes (a $500-per-month credit for couples making less than $60,000 and singles making less than $30,000), a boost in teachers’ salaries, a rent subsidy and equal pay. Based on her position on the Senate Intelligence Committee, she can speak with authority on cybersecurity. However, her position on Medicare-for-all has been muddled and her overall message less than clear.
Harris might find a crisper message if she took seriously her slogan (“Kamala D. Harris for the People”). She actually has a record of going after abuse of power and financial crimes. What better theme could there be when going up against Trump?
What’d she do about Steve mnuchin?
1. Possible. He spent a lot of time there during the primary, but that cost him the primary.To dead this once and for all, the reason Bernie would have performed better in the general is twofold:
1. He would not forget to campaign in the Midwest and he's definitely more exciting to those folks than Hillary
2. He isn't psychotically hated by millions of voters due to a 25 year long smear campaign across conservative media
So, in summary, Berniewouldhavewon.
2. He was less popular among Dem voters thus costing him the primary.
You're doing the equivalent of sixers and nuggets fans saying they'd have don't better against Golden state this year, but they didn't win the games necessary to get there.
The reality is you don't know how Bernie would have performed and this is just another hypothetical to deflect from the fact that he lost to Hillary.
JoogJoint
In my own league.
How did you come to the conclusion he "enjoys" it when he clearly appears irritated when asked? I would hope people moved the hell on by now from 2016. I know I'm personally sick of hearing about.
It's time to STFU and move on to 2020 and not make the same mistakes.
JoogJoint
In my own league.
Bernie throwing subs at Biden.
It's about Bernie buck up a little bit. Biden attacked him and his team before he even announced.
bruh aint this a bytch?
