2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[Perfectson]

This is a good thread, but is Bernie even a Dem Soc? Haven't seen him call for nationalization of any major industries...I've found his fans (and stans) to be more leftist than he is, and there's been some projection going on.

College and health care isn't enough for you ?

 

[Perfectson]

bernie is a social dem, idk why him and AOC etc started running with dem socialist, its just not the actual definition. but that maybe what that article is referring to. then again ive heard chomsky say that americas version of libertarian is nothing like it is around the world. but you expect people in politics to know better

AOC has spouted more socialist crap than Bernie but Bernie is going to follow the wave . So no he's not a social dem and definitely AOC isn't

 

[Perfectson]

These are all things the Dems should be running on and in fact many in the potential field have supported

What does legalizing MJ have any concern from Democrats, is that really an issue people require lol. Seems fairly shallow. Some as ending citizens United.

 

[wtfyomom]

AOC has spouted more socialist crap than Bernie but Bernie is going to follow the wave . So no he's not a social dem and definitely AOC isn't

what have they called for that was post capitalist ? and no free healthcare and college isnt good enough. socialist crap? no its capitalist crap that this country bows down to

 

[wtfyomom]

What does legalizing MJ have any concern from Democrats, is that really an issue people require lol. Seems fairly shallow. Some as ending citizens United.

legalizing marijuana affects all the black men that go to prison for it, and citizens united isnt shallow at all, its one of the biggest issues there is.

 

[wtfyomom]

Joe Biden is gonna sink faster than a lot of people on this forum expect.

yeah cenk has been saying this too

 

[Perfectson]

what have they called for that was post capitalist ? and no free healthcare and college isnt good enough. socialist crap? no its capitalist crap that this country bows down to

Those are the biggest, also the minimum wage, the green new deal, they basically want an expansion of the government in a direction that is opposite of capitalism. It's not full socialism but it's in the direction. ..Norway and Sweden are more in line with capitalism with some socialist nets (similar to us currently) but AoC wants to double down on even what they are doing

 

[Perfectson]

legalizing marijuana affects all the black men that go to prison for it, and citizens united isnt shallow at all, its one of the biggest issues there is.

No its not , and in actuality people are seeing through citizens United when you get grass roots candidates all the time . While counter to American way, after seeing who people get behind we need safety wheels to help lead people to candidates who are complete idiots and not a bunch of Joe plumbers and bartenders who shouldn't even be up here .

Legalizing MJ shouldn't be about reducing criminal sentences, it's such backwards thinking . Why don't we legalize dog fighting too? How about legalizing petty thefts? Seriously I know you can do better that spout nonsense value criminals being punished for a law they know about and choose to break

 

[wtfyomom]

No its not , and in actuality people are seeing through citizens United when you get grass roots candidates all the time . While counter to American way, after seeing who people get behind we need safety wheels to help lead people to candidates who are complete idiots and not a bunch of Joe plumbers and bartenders who shouldn't even be up here .

Legalizing MJ shouldn't be about reducing criminal sentences, it's such backwards thinking . Why don't we legalize dog fighting too? How about legalizing petty thefts? Seriously I know you can do better that spout nonsense value criminals being punished for a law they know about and choose to break

so then by YOUR logic lets just make alcohol illegal, and on citizens united., Id MUCH rather have joe the plumber than some corporate slave master running things, i think we just disagree on major points, so im not gonna continue

 

[wtfyomom]

Those are the biggest, also the minimum wage, the green new deal, they basically want an expansion of the government in a direction that is opposite of capitalism. It's not full socialism but it's in the direction. ..Norway and Sweden are more in line with capitalism with some socialist nets (similar to us currently) but AoC wants to double down on even what they are doing

i dont think theyre full socialist but if you want to know my preference it would be smthg like worker coops. socialism isnt scary to me., capitalism is , look at the conditions its produced

 

[Perfectson]

i dont think theyre full socialist but if you want to know my preference it would be smthg like worker coops. socialism isnt scary to me., capitalism is , look at the conditions its produced

the conditions? the worlds largest, best, and free markets and economy. I don't know what you mean conditions, have you been to actual socialist economy or communist economy. Show me one that you prefer over the US.

alot of conditions people complain about is because of race and systemic issues that has nothing to do with capitalism. POC also tend to utilize the same capitalism but don't go back to improve the communities they rose from. How is that capitalism's issue? Socialism is asking the government to come in and save and help certain communities is admission that these communities don't have the ability to improve themselves. It's a creation of a drone society.

so then by YOUR logic lets just make alcohol illegal, and on citizens united., Id MUCH rather have joe the plumber than some corporate slave master running things, i think we just disagree on major points, so im not gonna continue

you rather have a plumber create policy then someone who understand leadership and making tough decisions. How is unclogging a toilet in anyway preparation for leading people opposed to being a corporate CEO?

REgarding the alcohol , that is not my logic.. You're failing to comprehend that you literally said that blacks are being criminalized so lets make MJ legal...you gave no other support other than that. Which makes no sense, your rebuttal to that isn't addressing that and is not at all my logic. I could care less if MJ is legalized, I think it's stupid, I don't do it but as long as it's controlled for medicinal purposes or enjoyed in the privacy of the home I could give two fukks, but don't tell me to legalize it because people illegally abuse it.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Russian Bot v.2.1]

who's going to split their bases vote more: Biden/Beto or Sanders/Warren?

I think Biden/Beto are going to hurt each other immensely.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[Uncle Phil 36]

Did anyone not learn anything from Gillum and Abraham’s losing. People will say that they will vote for them in polls and then turn around and vote for the other guy if someone like Harris or Booker wins.

Running on an extreme progressive/socialist platform isn’t going to connect. Gonna end up having Trump squeak by with the same states as last time

The United States isn’t a progressive country, it’s center-right

shyt, even in states like Massachusetts and Maryland, they had moderates win the governorships.