2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races

[Pressure]

@Pressure

The maps are still not where they should, but the courts ruled they're "good enough" to not delay the primaries.

I think they said it moved from a 10-3 to 8-5 slant so I look forward to more of these announcements.

 

[FAH1223]

 

[John Reena]

I'm a frustrated black man trying to convince other blacks that we actually have a chance to truly help ourselves so we need to do it right.

Its frustrating as shyt to read ya'll being ok with letting poor blacks being kicked to the curb again. If ya'll actually believe in this shyt, fight for black people, we actually have a chance to change shyt.

If u posted long ass posts suckin off Bernie and Warren, they wouldn’t say shyt.

 

[Conan]

How is it s sham when your last point is exactly why consultants are used? Most of their engagements come from executives who want to CYA, a lot easier to outsource hard decisions to a consulting firm and blame them if it doesn’t work out than to stick their own neck out.

Because their solutions almost never work without significant rework by internal personnel. By that time, executives have moved on to other roles and McKinsey have pocketed their profits. Ultimately the blame lies with shortsighted internal executives who like you mentioned, want to CYA and pass the buck.

Just a vapid line of work for me, that line of management consulting.

 

[storyteller]

No one asked I guess, but when a judge saw the evidence and called Stop and Frisk what it was, he sure as hell tried to butt in and defend that ish. So to feign ignorance is absolute BS. Here are some snippets from NYT coverage at the time...

Judge Rejects New York’s Stop-and-Frisk Policy

In her 195-page decision, Judge Scheindlin concluded that the stops, which soared in number over the last decade as crime continued to decline, demonstrated a widespread disregard for the Fourth Amendment, which protects against unreasonable searches and seizures by the government, as well as the 14th Amendment’s equal protection clause.

Mayor Michael R. Bloomberg angrily accused the judge of deliberately denying the city “a fair trial” and said the city would file an appeal.

Striking a defiant tone, Mr. Bloomberg said, “You’re not going to see any change in tactics overnight.” He said he hoped the appeal process would allow the current stop-and-frisk practices to continue through the end of his administration because “I wouldn’t want to be responsible for a lot of people dying.”

The judge found that for much of the last decade, patrol officers had stopped innocent people without any objective reason to suspect them of wrongdoing. But her criticism went beyond the conduct of police officers.

“I also conclude that the city’s highest officials have turned a blind eye to the evidence that officers are conducting stops in a racially discriminatory manner,” she wrote, citing statements that Mr. Bloomberg and the police commissioner, Raymond W. Kelly, have made in defending the policy.

Judge Scheindlin ordered a number of remedies, including a pilot program in which officers in at least five precincts across the city will wear cameras on their bodies to record street encounters. She also ordered a “joint remedial process” — in essence, a series of community meetings — to solicit public comments on how to reform the department’s tactics.

The judge named Peter L. Zimroth, a partner in Arnold & Porter L.L.P., and a former corporation counsel and prosecutor in the Manhattan district attorney’s office, to monitor the Police Department’s compliance with the United States Constitution. The installation of a monitor will leave the department under a degree of judicial control that is certain to shape the policing strategies under the next mayor.

Judge Scheindlin’s decision grapples with the legacy of Terry v. Ohio, a 1968 ruling by the Supreme Court, which held that stopping and frisking was constitutionally permissible under certain conditions. But she said that changes to the way the New York Police Department employed the practice were needed to ensure that the street stops were carried out in a manner that “protects the rights and liberties of all New Yorkers, while still providing much needed police protection.”

The judge found that the New York police were too quick to deem suspicious behavior that was perfectly innocent, in effect watering down the legal standard required for a stop.

“Blacks are likely targeted for stops based on a lesser degree of objectively founded suspicion than whites,” she wrote.

And of course there was the supporting data...Bloomberg had a LOT to say in the face of this information, he commented and appealed a case where this information was present. Look at the smarmy comments that close this article out.

About 83 percent of the stops between 2004 and 2012 involved blacks and Hispanics, even though those two demographics make up just slightly more than 50 percent of the city’s residents. Mr. Bloomberg and Mr. Kelly have explained that disparity by saying it mirrored the disproportionate percentage of crimes committed by young minority men. But Judge Scheindlin dismissed the Police Department’s rationale.

“This might be a valid comparison if the people stopped were criminals,” she wrote, explaining that there was significant evidence that the people being stopped were not criminals. “To the contrary, nearly 90 percent of the people stopped are released without the officer finding any basis for a summons or arrest.”

Rather, Judge Scheindlin found, the stops overwhelmingly involved minority men because police commanders had come to see them as “the right people” to stop.

“It is impermissible to subject all members of a racially defined group to heightened police enforcement because some members of that group are criminals,” she wrote.

Mr. Bloomberg pledged that lawyers for the city, in appealing to the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit, would argue that the judge was biased against the police. As evidence, he cited the fact that the judge, who has overseen numerous stop-and-frisk cases over the last decade, had encouraged the plaintiffs to steer the Floyd case into her courtroom by marking it as related to an earlier case she had overseen.

The mayor said the judge did “not understand how policing works” and had misinterpreted what the Constitution allowed.

 

[Red Shield]

this is seriously a game?

 

[Robbie3000]

You’re overstating McKinsey’s involvement in ice as if they were handing out manuals on how to torture folks. They solve the problems companies put in front of them, and yes, they do it for organizations that some people object to.

And there is nothing impeding democracy in not revealing a client list especially in an industry built on NDA’s. Please tell me what’s anti democratic about it?

Like I said, this is making a mountain out of a molehill. Even if the client list was reveled you’d have no clue what types of projects he was working on, then there would be a whole other witch hunt for that

He was at most Sr Consultant level. There is zero power at that level. He was putting somewhere in a back room putting together power point decks or running spreadsheet models not commiserating with world leaders.

 

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[Conan]

He was at most Sr Consultant level. There is zero power at that level. He was putting somewhere in a back room putting together power point decks or running spreadsheet models not commiserating with world leaders.

Facts

Side note, there is nothing more soul-destroying than having a job where you constantly update and tweak PowerPoints full of business speak bullshyt.

 

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[88m3]

He was at most Sr Consultant level. There is zero power at that level. He was putting somewhere in a back room putting together power point decks or running spreadsheet models not commiserating with world leaders.

How many people do you think he helped lay off during the recession?

Do you think he got bonuses?

 

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[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Biden talking shyt out here