Then krystal will show us a a video. Of Bernie playing basketball and doing push-ups saying he's fit for office.
2020 Democratic Primary Thread: Focus on House & Senate races
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Then krystal will show us a a video. Of Bernie playing basketball and doing push-ups saying he's fit for office.
Secure Da Bag
Veteran
That's nice for polls. But I hope it actually turns into Ranked Choice Voting. AFAIK, Hawaii is the only state that's going to implement it in the next 4 years.
EDIT: I take that back.
Bill advances to transform how Hawaii elections are counted
Hawaii, and Kansas to Use Ranked Choice Voting Ballots in 2020 Primaries - FairVote
Hawaii and Alaska set to adopt RCV for 2020 Democratic Primary - FairVote
RCV explanation
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DragonKnight
Banned
I want Bernie to win but I doubt he lives the full 4 years
Lets keep it 100, Duveal Patrick entering the race a couple weeks ago was such a plant move....Everyone who runs for President is a plant.
storyteller
Veteran
no bro. That’s why y’all need to listen to poc progressives on m4all not white ppl. I’ve tried to educate tons of ppl on this.
Bernie and Liz gave STATES the rights to decide what’s covered and what’s not. It’s called medical necessity. Or whatever the state thinks should be covered will be covered
https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20190302.150578/full/
The bill further clarifies that items or services would be covered if they have been provided pursuant to a national practice guideline that has been recognized by HHS. Even when an item or service is not provided in accordance with a national practice guideline, it would be treated this way if the provider exercised professional judgment and acted in the patient’s best interest consistent with their wishes. Providers would also be allowed to override practice guidelines or standards if the override is a medical necessity and appropriate, in the patient’s best interest, and consistent with the individual’s wishes. This override option was not included in the Sanders bill.
CBO’s Report On Single-Payer Health Care Holds More Questions Than Answers
Medicare-for-all backers say the program would cover all medically necessary services. But what does that truly mean?
What may seem obvious — the notion of medical necessity — isn’t so easy to distill into policy rules. And different single-payer systems around the world handle the benefits question differently, the CBO noted.
For instance, Canada doesn’t cover prescription drugs, but the United Kingdom and Sweden do. Of those three, only Sweden fully covers long-term support services, according to the report.
There are two questions at the heart of it, said Robert Berenson, a health policy analyst at the Urban Institute, a left-leaning think tank.
What benefits would be covered? Would it include dental care or prescription drugs or vision, as Sanders’ bill would? And, how does one determine the discrete services included within those benefits categories?
Single-payer architects could look at existing standards, such as the so-called essential health benefits that govern Obamacare health plans, to determine what’s covered. They could be more generous by including long-term care, which isn’t currently covered by Medicare or most private insurance plans.
Even the two “Medicare-for-all” bills in Congress have slightly different takes. Though both provide for long-term support and services, they diverge on how to pay for it. Sanders’ bill covers only at-home long-term care and keeps Medicaid intact for services provided in institutions. The House bill by Rep. Pramila Jayapal (D-Wash.) covers both.
And there are questions about new medical treatments, and how to determine whether they provide added value. The CBO report suggested some kind of “cost-effectiveness criterion” could determine what the government is willing to cover. In practice, though, that standard could be difficult to develop and fall victim to political lobbying or trigger contentious debate.
Separately from the CBO report, McDonough noted, controversial medical services could bring up different kinds of political baggage — whether this plan would cover abortion, for instance, likely would change the single-payer debate.
Medical necessity disproportionately doesn't cover new treatments or even current treatments for African Americans. Literally in the fukking law, if they don't think everyone needs it(all americans not just blacks) they don't have to pay for it.
Your fukking signing black death certificates with your votes, stop listening to these liberal whites. Medicare for All needs to be FOR ALL. Listen to BLACK PROGRESSIVES
Not sure about this illegible mess except that the first part you quoted was from an article that isn't actually detailing Bernie's plan (EDIT: I'm putting your post mostly in spoilers, it's ugly and hard to follow but anyone can open the spoilers if they want to see the whole of it). I've linked the actual Health Affairs coverage on Bernie's plan below for you and right at the beginning it confirms exactly what I just said about Supplemental coverage being allowed...
https://www.healthaffairs.org/do/10.1377/hblog20170914.061996/full/
Supplemental insurance is allowed to cover anything M4A doesn't. That was my statement, it's confirmed here by the same exact source you seem to be using to refute that claim.
Now I'm not trying to figure out what's what in the rest of that mess you just posted. Clean it up or clarify it properly with quotes separating your thoughts from what you're citing and maybe I can figure out what you're even trying to say. But my point stands and I think you'd be better off reading the article that actually covers Bernie's plan rather than one that makes brief allusions to it but doesn't actually cover everything involved in it. Just for example, you mentioned something about the state's making the final determinations but that's not right. States can't limit benefits that follow a national standard of guidelines that would be set, they can only expand on them.
From the same article:
Biden got the smoke in these events
storyteller
Veteran
“Let’s take an IQ test”
Then he called him fat
Laziest campaign ever
I really need to collect all the clips of Biden telling people to vote for someone else instead of trying to reassure them that his aim is to help. I can recall at least one time where a guy asked about the Obama administration deportation record and another one where a person was talking about health care. A friend messaged me this one too
no my whole post states exactly what U just said. We can’t agree to the shyt that directly hurts us. M4all bills must be presented with black progressive leaders input, not exclusively white liberals that live in the richest states in America.
if they refuse to include us then yes scrap that shyt. This is the chance to actually help us and we can help shape the bill.
Why move forward with a bill that you know hurts your own ppl?
Why would u support that.
PoorAndDangerous
Superstar
So why would you support Biden???????????????????????????? You think his healthcare plan is going to give two fukks about black people when he’s going to have healthcare lobbyists writing whatever he decides to do (if he does anything at all legislatively that is)no my whole post states exactly what U just said. We can’t agree to the shyt that directly hurts us. M4all bills must be presented with black progressive leaders input, not exclusively white liberals that live in the richest states in America.
if they refuse to include us then yes scrap that shyt. This is the chance to actually help us and we can help shape the bill.
Why move forward with a bill that you know hurts your own ppl?
the next guy
Superstar
“Let’s take an IQ test”
Then he called him fat
Laziest campaign ever
More bum behaviour. Let’s not make excuses. We deserve our politicians. High ratings for debates, that’s all the matters.
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Bc blacks got that removed from Bidens public option plan already. Medical neccessity isnt in there.
If we are all in consensus that we most likely would start from a public option to a M4ALL plan.
I'd rather start from a plan that doesn't have in there NOW than try to fight to get it out. This is a solely black progressive point of view. I am not considering anything else besides what's best for black people.
“Let’s take an IQ test”
Then he called him fat
Laziest campaign ever
A part of me gon miss this daily Trump / Biden fukkery
88m3
Fast Money & Foreign Objects
not great