2018 Houston Rockets Offseason Thread

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I’m just happy we got younger. I wasn’t feeling getting so old. Like 80% of our roster that played was over 32 years old. And Gordon turns 30soon. Now we got Ennis, bum ass MCW and Melton to add some youth and energy. Older dudes are injury prone and don’t want to get surgery’s.

Melo off the bench is a good deal.
 

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I truly believe CP3 is the key. If he can't inspire Melo to be great, then Melo just wasn't meant to be great. Paul gon deliver him buckets on a silver platter. But he's also gon get on his ass for shytty defensive rotations.

Gon be interesting to see how Melo responds to his best buddy not pulling punches :lupe:
I just wonder how his Capela situation gonna play. He needs to get bank but he can't be crazy especially if he wants to win. What you think is a fair price for him? He seems to want over $100milly, I say closer to $90m if we wanna get Melo.
 

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I just wonder how his Capela situation gonna play. He needs to get bank but he can't be crazy especially if he wants to win. What you think is a fair price for him? He seems to want over $100milly, I say closer to $90m if we wanna get Melo.

I personally don't consider him a 100+milly/4 year player but if Steve Adams got 100 milly/4 years, then I guess Capela is a 100 milly player in a bullish market. But since we're in a bear market this summer and no team can really offer him that... to me it kinda depends on what the impact is of giving him 85-90m, as opposed to 100 mil does for us on a flexibility front. Because if Carmelo is bought out, then do we really gotta give him what remains of the 5 million mid-level exception? (we perserved most of this amount by not signing Luc to it and instead acquiring Ennis for cheap). And isn't that mid-level available regardless of what we do with Capela?

So i think this standoff is more so for a year or two from now bc we'll have mininmum flexibility moving forward with Paul/Harden/Capella, but they're hoping to shave off some millions from Capela to have some maneurverability for a future flip. Or i hope that's the reason, more so than just trying to save the owner some dollars off the luxury tax.

I'd say 85-90m is fair. 60mil was lowkey disrespectful lol, esp since he was gonna look at what Adams got paid as a barometer. And esp since D'Antoni was gassing him up all season to the media saying he was a max contract player. And so here we are
 

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I wished the first thing we did after losing game 7 was buyout Anderson. Take the hit and go all in. Play the luxury deep for a year and go for it and fall back the next year if necessary.

We really should have gone after PG13 instead of LeBron because he isn't ball dominant. Bring in IT for a year (2 broke guards can make a whole 1).

We should go after Rodney Hood now and keep Capela.
 

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Can’t get too worked up positively or negatively at this point in the offseason. I’m most interested in how they get rid of Anderson’s contract. Hopefully it leads to an addition to the roster rather than just waiving and stretching him. I’ll never understand why morey thought that contract was a good idea.
 

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Can’t get too worked up positively or negatively at this point in the offseason. I’m most interested in how they get rid of Anderson’s contract. Hopefully it leads to an addition to the roster rather than just waiving and stretching him. I’ll never understand why morey thought that contract was a good idea.
They needed a good guard that could pull up and shoot and Gordon proved that despite always hurt with the Pelicans. Ryan could actually shoot back then too so I'm sure he just weighed the good against the bad....
 

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They needed a good guard that could pull up and shoot and Gordon proved that despite always hurt with the Pelicans. Ryan could actually shoot back then too so I'm sure he just weighed the good against the bad....

Side note, hasn’t he always struggled shooting at Toyota center? Maybe they thought he’d get better if he shot there every day. He’d still be though.
 

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Ryan is a relic from that brief era where simply being a spot-up stretch "4" ala Kyle Korver was deemed good enough for a championship squad. Basically a lazy-man version of what Chris Bosh/Kevin Love were perceived to be while playing with Lebron.

"Lazy-man version" bc Bosh/Love were far more talented and multi-faceted than the "Ryan Anderson" role they were boxed in with. But now we're in a GSW-era where positions 1-4 houses either a legitmate star or a two-way (3&D) guy bare mininmum.

Anderson is neither, so that contract just gets worse by the year month day hour.
 

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Basically the novelty Anderson had of being a "tall big that can space the floor" no longer means anything because teams now play positionless basketball 1-4 where a 6'5 PJ Tucker or a 6'7 Draymond Green can be the stretch 4s for their teams. Both guys do more for that PF position than Ryan Anderson despite both being half a foot or more shorter.

Teams now switch everything, so its almost more beneficial to have a shorter, quicker PF,, just as long as their's a big man at center who can rebound, or everyone on your team is just good at gang rebounding.
 

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Anderson should be averaging 15 pts with us. He just mentally weak. Patrick Patterson before he got traded was averaging 17 and 6 with us before they traded him for Thomas Robinson
 

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Ryan is a relic from that brief era where simply being a spot-up stretch "4" ala Kyle Korver was deemed good enough for a championship squad. Basically a lazy-man version of what Chris Bosh/Kevin Love were perceived to be while playing with Lebron.

"Lazy-man version" bc Bosh/Love were far more talented and multi-faceted than the "Ryan Anderson" role they were boxed in with. But now we're in a GSW-era where positions 1-4 houses either a legitmate star or a two-way (3&D) guy bare mininmum.

Anderson is neither, so that contract just gets worse by the year month day hour.

Basically the novelty Anderson had of being a "tall big that can space the floor" no longer means anything because teams now play positionless basketball 1-4 where a 6'5 PJ Tucker or a 6'7 Draymond Green can be the stretch 4s for their teams. Both guys do more for that PF position than Ryan Anderson despite both being half a foot or more shorter.

Teams now switch everything, so its almost more beneficial to have a shorter, quicker PF,, just as long as their's a big man at center who can rebound, or everyone on your team is just good at gang rebounding.

Anderson should be averaging 15 pts with us. He just mentally weak. Patrick Patterson before he got traded was averaging 17 and 6 with us before they traded him for Thomas Robinson

At this point, I think they keep him around to be our sole white player that is sometimes starting (thank God no longer the case) or comes off the bench.
 

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NBA Rumors: Kings Could Absorb Ryan Anderson’s Contract To Help Rockets Sign Carmelo Anthony, Per ‘HoopsHype’
NBA Rumors: Kings Could Absorb Ryan Anderson’s Contract To Help Rockets Sign Carmelo Anthony, Per ‘HoopsHype’

Since the 2018 NBA offseason started, the Houston Rockets are finding an NBA team willing to take Ryan Anderson and the remaining two years and $41.6 million left on his contract. Unfortunately, most NBA teams don’t have enough salary cap space to absorb Anderson’s lucrative deal. However, according to Bryan Kalbrosky of HoopsHype, there is one team that could help the Rockets with their current financial situation – the Sacramento Kings.

The Kings recently traded Garrett Temple to the Memphis Grizzlies for Ben McLemore, Deyonta Davis, and cash consideration. Kevin O’Connor of The Ringer revealed that the deal gave the Kings $20.5 million in salary cap space which makes them an ideal trade partner for the Rockets.

“It opens up cap space for the Kings where now they have $20.5 million in cap space and that’s notable. Because I’ve recently heard … Houston would be looking for a team to dump Ryan Anderson on that could ease the path to sign Carmelo Anthony.”

To convince the Kings to absorb Ryan Anderson’s contract, Kalbrosky suggested that the Rockets will be needing to attach a future draft pick in the process. Giving up a draft pick is definitely worth it for the Rockets since it will give them a higher chance of bringing Carmelo Anthony to Houston. After losing Trevor Ariza and Luc Mbah a Moute in the free agency market, the Rockets should be more aggressive in pursuing Anthony to fill their spot in the wing.

As of now, Carmelo Anthony and the Oklahoma City Thunder are working together to speed up their separation process. A previous Inquisitr article revealed that the Thunder are having a trade negotiation with the Atlanta Hawks involving Anthony, Dennis Schroder, and Mike Muscala. If the trade proceeds, the Hawks will immediately buyout Anthony’s contract to enable him to become an unrestricted free agent and join a title contender like the Rockets.

Aside from the potential acquisition of Anthony, successfully trading Ryan Anderson to the Kings will enable the Rockets to give restricted free agent Clint Capela a better deal. Bringing back Capela should be the Rockets’ top priority, especially if they want to dethrone the Golden State Warriors next season.

Meanwhile, for the Kings, acquiring a future draft pick in the deal will give them another young and promising talent that could help them speed up the rebuilding process. The Kings aren’t expected to contend for the title anytime soon, giving them no problem to wait for Anderson’s contract to be cleared off the book.

Apparently Ryan is from Sacramento as well :jbhmm:
 

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Hawks Trade Dennis Schroder, Mike Muscala To Thunder For Carmelo Anthony, 2022 FRP

The Oklahoma City Thunder have agreed to trade Carmelo Anthony and a protected 2022 first round pick to the Atlanta Hawks for Dennis Schroder and Mike Muscala.

Anthony will be waived and the Houston Rockets will be the frontrunner.

Sam Presti and Billy Donovan were given permission to talk with Schrroder and they're enthusiastic about a partnership.

Muscala is likely to be moved to a third team.

The Thunder will save nearly $100 million in salary and luxury tax with the move. If the Thunder used the stretch provision on Anthony, they would have $9 million remaining over the next three years. Schroder makes $15.5 million per year compared to Anthony's $28 million for 18-19.

It's finally happening
 
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