Dude made a thread about black wealth disparity last night yet rails against a minimum wage
Min wage is(and has been since its inception) a barrier to entry into the market for blacks. I'm anti min wage and pro reparations.
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Min wage is(and has been since its inception) a barrier to entry into the market for blacks. I'm anti min wage and pro reparations.
If we are going the living wage route, it needs to to be done at the state level. A federal min wage for Arkansas is not gonna be a min wage in Cali/New York. The markets are simply to diverse for a federal one size fits all "living wage" in my opinion.@DEAD7 now that Corp taxes have been slashed can we go ahead and raise min wage closer to a living wage?
Unless your talking $25-$30/hr across the board.
UBI makes more sense than a living wage in my opinion.
Before it comes up, I'm more than willing to accept that certain states will face plant.
I anti min wage and pro reparations.
can you expand on why you feel minimum wage has been a barrier to black employment as opposed to, oh idk
racism and sick white people and a system thats designed to concentrate wealth into the hands of very few?
also if you would take a minute to explain how the erradication of minimum wage standards [that are woefully inadequate to begin with] would be of a benefit to black people?
not being a bytch
just trying to follow your logic
thanks in advance for your thoughtful response
I believe whites don’t see blacks as worth/deserving of higher wages and will higher blacks at an even lower rate than they do now... furthering our economic depression.
It’s one of the many ways the state exasperates race relations in my opinion.
Getting rid of the minimum wage would allow more African Americans into the workforce where they could gain many of the skills and develop much of the human capital necessary to advance economically as a community. I believe it would also offer an alternative for many young black men who would otherwise find themselves forced into some bad decisions... idle hands and all that.
Moreover less than 5% of the current workforce is paid minimum wage so the idea employers/greedy capitalist are simply looking to pay bottom dollar doesn’t ring true to me. I don’t imagine wages falling off a cliff with out min wage laws.
thank you for responding.
i disagree but appreciate your response.
Black employment in America was highest when we were working for free
and yt was able to beat maim and abuse us without repurcussion.
even the notion that "black entry level employees will earn valuable skills"
doesnt mean jackshyt when they wont hire us for 7.25 an hour
they dont want to hire us with experience or degrees for 7.25 or more an hour
this is a country where a white male felon hs diploma is a preferred employment candidate over a black male with no criminal record and a degree
i think you overestimate the goodness of society in America.
i cant see where working for less than 7.25 [which isnt enough to kind of live on pretty much anywhere]
is gonna solve the problem of "idle hands"
thanks for responding though
I can see good points in @DEAD7 argument but he’s being a little too naive. If laws weren’t set into place to protect people what makes him think corporations won’t take advantage of that?
You have this view that this is the way things are supposed to be and in the real world they’re really not. Same views some CaCs / Hispanics have when they speak about these topics. They look down on welfare, minimum wage when they’re gettin fukked by corporate America.
It isn’t gonna solve all our problems, but I believe it’ll equip more young African Americans with the tools to start their own business’s or at the very least understand business better and maybe learn how specific industries work from the inside.
I have no idea how raising the min wage benefits a demographic historically ostracized(by whites) from the market.
Seems very short sighted.
Incentivizing businesses to hire less seems like it would hurt the demographic employers are bigoted against the most no?
As the least employed demographic I’m more concerned with getting us employed than the wages of those currently employed.
I don’t expect white America to shape up or let us in on terms favorable or agreeable to most(African Americans)...
So I’m willing to accept this sort of scenario if it get our foot in the door.
It isn’t gonna solve all our problems, but I believe it’ll equip more young African Americans with the tools to start their own business’s or at the very least understand business better and maybe learn how specific industries work from the inside.
I have no idea how raising the min wage benefits a demographic historically ostracized(by whites) from the market.
Seems very short sighted.
Incentivizing businesses to hire less seems like it would hurt the demographic employers are bigoted against the most no?
As the least employed demographic I’m more concerned with getting us employed than the wages of those currently employed.
I don’t expect white America to shape up or let us in on terms favorable or agreeable to most(African Americans)...
So I’m willing to accept this sort of scenario if it get our foot in the door.
in your opinion
what skill does an entry level cashier for instance learn [whether they work for 7.25 an hour or for free]
that would equip said cashier to manage/own his/her own store?
how does cashiering educate on on p&l or hr or staffing, budgeting or buying?
or a fast food cashier? how do they become equipped from that oppourtunity to run or manage a restaurant?
a gas station?
again. im not trying to be a bytch.
i am really trying to flesh out where you are coming from here..
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assuming they aquire these skills
how do they amass a sufficient ammount of capital to start their own business when working for free or damn near it?
At the very bottom, punctuality, time management and professionalism if interacting with the public. In addition to that, a better glimpse into how money works/flows through hands, the logistics involved in not only running a business but stocking the shelves. A better look at the rules and regulations for a specific industry... and most importantly it serves as another alternative to [insert activity of your choice] thats hurting our communities.
I remember when the value of a paper route earning next to nothing was widely known and accepted, now its considered meaningless to work if your not being paid a "living wage"...
its a sign of the times just having discussion like thisThese jobs are meant to be stepping stones... and I fear making them livable will cost us more(than it already has) long term. I don't want anyone living comfortably making fries
I think it dulls ambition and is bad for blacks in the long run. We are not on the same playing field as everyone else... we are still way behind in my opinion.
Again that's just my opinion.
As for the start up capital, pooling resources is the name of the game. I made good money and still had to partner up with 2 others for my first venture into entrepreneurship.
I think thats just how it goes.
I believe a mind for business must come first, and I dont believe making a wal-mart greeter job livable is the way to go about achieving it.
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From what I understand Tump lowered my taxes why should I be outraged again?
Not ouraged, but concerned about the additional accumulation of debt that this bill creates. To me it looks like a setup because Repubs know that the Dems are going to win seats in 2018, so they are setting it up to be disaster if/when they take over.
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