2016 NBA Draft and beyond (labelplant edition).. 4/4/16 UPDATE: 2017 Draft Big Board

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I can't act like I know him I just go by highlights and scouting reports and he sounds very Jrue Holidayish

Who's a very solid player but with a high lotto pick in a loaded draft I want more

With Ntilikina, even though he's not going to blow you away with his athleticism, he does have really good change of speed and paired with his handling and footwork can be just as effective if not more effective than someone who can just hang in the air and finish with crazy body control like Fultz or DSJ.

Plus, he's the best defender at the guard position in this draft.
 

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I agree I'm not a fan of heavy ISO players but he threw a nice pass to Jackson and had a few during the tourney that makes me think he can see the floor pretty well at least

A team like the Magic who are allergic to halfcourt scoring could really use him

I mean if you think he is a Melo or Pierce (he isn't) those guys had some vision but how hard was it to build around them?
 

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Speaking of Jrue, Aaron looks like he might end up as the best player in the family.
 

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Here's my top 50 right now, the order isn't perfect yet but it's pretty accurate.


1. Markelle Fultz
2. Robert Williams
3. Josh Jackson
4. Frank Ntilikina
5. Lonzo Ball
6. Dennis Smith
7. Lauri Markkanen
8. John Collins
9. Jayson Tatum
10. Ike Anigbogu
11. Justin Patton
12. Malik Monk
13. Jawun Evans
14. Mikal Bridges
15. Jonathan Isaac
16. De'Aaron Fox
17. OG Anunoby
18. Caleb Swanigan
19. TJ Leaf
20. Miles Bridges
21. Jarrett Allen
22. Aaron Holiday
23. Bam Adebayo
24. Isaiah Hartenstein
25. Luke Kennard
26. Dwayne Bacon
27. Rodions Kurucs
28. Kobi Simmons
29. Ivan Rabb
30. Johnathan Motley
31. Dedric Lawson
32. Harry Giles
33. Bruce Brown
34. Semi Ojeleye
35. Tyler Lydon
36. Shake Milton
37. Allonzo Trier
38. Tony Bradley
39. Thomas Bryant
40. Monte Morris
41. Vince Edwards
42. Edmond Sumner
43. Devonte Graham
44. Cameron Oliver
45. Donovan Mitchell
46. E.C. Matthews
47. Mustapha Heron
48. Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
49. Rawle Alkins
50. Frank Jackson
 

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Here's my top 50 right now, the order isn't perfect yet but it's pretty accurate.


1. Markelle Fultz
2. Robert Williams
3. Josh Jackson
4. Frank Ntilikina
5. Lonzo Ball
6. Dennis Smith
7. Lauri Markkanen
8. John Collins
9. Jayson Tatum
10. Ike Anigbogu
11. Justin Patton
12. Malik Monk
13. Jawun Evans
14. Mikal Bridges
15. Jonathan Isaac
16. De'Aaron Fox
17. OG Anunoby
18. Caleb Swanigan
19. TJ Leaf
20. Miles Bridges
21. Jarrett Allen
22. Aaron Holiday
23. Bam Adebayo
24. Isaiah Hartenstein
25. Luke Kennard
26. Dwayne Bacon
27. Rodions Kurucs
28. Kobi Simmons
29. Ivan Rabb
30. Johnathan Motley
31. Dedric Lawson
32. Harry Giles
33. Bruce Brown
34. Semi Ojeleye
35. Tyler Lydon
36. Shake Milton
37. Allonzo Trier
38. Tony Bradley
39. Thomas Bryant
40. Monte Morris
41. Vince Edwards
42. Edmond Sumner
43. Devonte Graham
44. Cameron Oliver
45. Donovan Mitchell
46. E.C. Matthews
47. Mustapha Heron
48. Sviatoslav Mykhailiuk
49. Rawle Alkins
50. Frank Jackson


not sure how you have Harry Giles at #32 - he hasn't shown the mobility necessary and is still recovering from knee surgeries.

as a Duke fan, it's very hard to see Semi Ojeleye on this list since we could have had him on our team this year!
 

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Shai Gilgeous-Alexander (Canada)
Nickeil Alexander Walker (Canada)
Angus Glover (Australia)
Tadas Sedekerskis (Lithuania)
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Kostja Mushidi (Germany)
Borisa Simanic (Serbia)
Isaiah Hartenstein (Germany)
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not sure how you have Harry Giles at #32 - he hasn't shown the mobility necessary and is still recovering from knee surgeries.

as a Duke fan, it's very hard to see Semi Ojeleye on this list since we could have had him on our team this year!

Giles is where he is because of potential. He's going to go first round no matter what.
 

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Someone school me on Robert Williams, I've never heard of him before. What NBA player(past or present) does he best compare to?
 

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I guess a pre-injury Antonio McDyess



He was one the most fun players to watch this season


Does he have any offensive skill in the halfcourt or is he just a guy who's gonna get mostly dunks?

Another thing that worries me is that he's 20 already.
 

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Does he have any offensive skill in the halfcourt or is he just a guy who's gonna get mostly dunks?

Another thing that worries me is that he's 20 already.

Look at McDyess' freshman stats compared to Williams.

Robert will still be 19 on draft day I'm pretty sure, and McDyess was 21 during his rookie season in the league.

He has a pretty nice mid-range jumper and his post game is coming along nicely.
 
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Pre Tourney Mock (I'll do the whole first round after the tournament)

1. Celtics- Lonzo Ball, G, UCLA
2. Lakers- Markelle Fultz, G, Washington
3. Suns- Josh Jackson, F, Kansas
4. Magic- Dennis Smith Jr., G, NC State
5. 76ers- Malik Monk, G, Kentucky
6. Kings- De'Aaron Fox, G, Kentucky
7. Kings- Jayson Tatum, F, Duke
8. Knicks- Frank Ntilikina, G, France
9. Jonathan Isaac, F, Florida State
10. Hornets- Miles Bridges, F, Michigan State
11. Mavericks- Lauri Markkanen, F, Arizona
12. Trail Blazers- Robert Williams, F, Texas A&M
13. Bulls- John Collins, F, Wake Forest
14. Heat- Ivan Rabb, F, California
 
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