[2/24/25] YEETmania continues Monday Night Raw Thread

[Straw Hat Luffy]

Who has benefited from feuding with Rhea? Who has she elevated? She's becoming Goth Charlotte.

She’s only feuded with Liv and she’s benefited significantly

Bayley: Every time they wrestle it's amazing.

Iyo: Backlash was insane.

Becky: GOAT women's Mania match & followed it up with the classic at Summerslam.

Carmella: Until they ran it into the ground.

Oh shyt I forgot about that Iyo match I just don’t have a good memory and with wrestling happening weekly I tend to forget this shyt.

True, she was killing it in the Judgement Day back when I could tolerate them.

But, it's clear to see that the ONLY women's angles with any legs is (____________ vs. Rhea) or (_____________&___________ vs. Rhea & _____________).

Laveck (who's fault it is) barely uses Rhea's crazy star power to put other women over.

Yea, the Bianca stuff is getting off the rails, but, I'm one of the people that think it's ridiculous she's been in the mid-card for damn near a year and a half (zero singles title matches since Crown Jewel 2023).

But, again, that's Laveck, not Rhea.

Depends on what you mean by putting over. Rhea shouldn’t just be losing to anybody. She just got put over by Charlotte and Becky as the next big thing and she’s only 28. Just like Cody Rhodes finally becoming one of the top guys you just don’t have him losing to guys instantly just because another wrestler is interesting in the story line or certain fans want to see new champs just because.

I don’t know how we’re all the same people who watched Okada, Tanahashi, Naito, be the main event scene in new Japan fighting each other for a decade and enjoy that but can’t stomach a 8+ month reign in wwe lol

What doesn’t help is putting your ic champ in a tournament to face the womens champ just to lose in one of the rounds. Creative blunder.

Another is not putting effort into their characters and their storylines.


Also we never consider into the fact that a lot of wrestlers simply need time to connect with the crowd and that’s why wwe doesn’t change wrestler gimmicks so fast. Some people don’t watch nxt, some people only watch PLEs.

A wrestler could be on the main roster for three months and come out to crickets but IWC will be like omg wwe failed them they’re not over. Nah brehs fans literally don’t know who they are.

Wins and losses don’t matter that much
Championships really don’t either

Tv time is key

 

[dh86]

I’m gonna have to go back to watch


Bro that’s what you got from this
You missed my entire point.

Because you’re taking normal, reasonable, benign conversations and making it seem like it’s lunatics talking. If we’re all over 30, then we all see wrestlemania as somewhere the top stars of the time faces the other top stars of the time. Jey Uso won the royal rumble, Charlotte is facing a green rookie, Cody is facing someone on his retirement tour, thus the only chance of HHH providing the kind of marquee match the Wrestlemania viewers deserve is Bianca and Rhea. They’ve been the top 2 in reactions for women since the return from COVID in 2021, it’s been built up since their 2020 feud that got them both called up with pushes. It’s simply common sense for the match to happen and at Wrestlemania 41, there’s no one else, especially if you want to give the fans the best vs best.

Since HHH took charge, Bianca held the belt long enough to get the record and then won it back for 60 seconds, and then was in a tag team for the past year. If we’ve all watched WWF since the early 90s we know what that usually suggests. We saw in nxt that Bianca never won the title when HHH was in charge. These are facts, I’m not sure why you think these are outlier opinions based on anything. I don’t believe anyone on this board is obsessed with that woman, she’s just a bunch of people favorite female wrestler. If you have a favorite wrestler, you want them booked right, that’s common sense.

 

[Easy-E]

She just got put over by Charlotte and Becky as the next big thing and she’s only 28. Just like Cody Rhodes finally becoming one of the top guys you just don’t have him losing to guys instantly just because another wrestler is interesting in the story line or certain fans want to see new champs just because.

I don’t know how we’re all the same people who watched Okada, Tanahashi, Naito, be the main event scene in new Japan fighting each other for a decade and enjoy that but can’t stomach a 8+ month reign in wwe lol

What doesn’t help is putting your ic champ in a tournament to face the womens champ just to lose in one of the rounds. Creative blunder.

Another is not putting effort into their characters and their storylines.


Also we never consider into the fact that a lot of wrestlers simply need time to connect with the crowd and that’s why wwe doesn’t change wrestler gimmicks so fast. Some people don’t watch nxt, some people only watch PLEs.

A wrestler could be on the main roster for three months and come out to crickets but IWC will be like omg wwe failed them they’re not over. Nah brehs fans literally don’t know who they are.

Wins and losses don’t matter that much
Championships really don’t either

Tv time is key

I don't mean losing.

I'm actually fine with her basically being unbeatable if Laveck would built up some heels to go against her.

Damage Ctrl should've been better heels. PFC should've been better heels.

I'm fine with it taking 2, 3 women to take her down.

I have a problem with NOTHING fazing her.

I loved this for the story. But, she came back that night on Twitter to talk shyt and she was only out two weeks and dominated the War Games.

Liv/Raquel looked like bad asses for once afte rRhea been beating the three of them up (w Dom) for the last few months.

The Liv feud fell off after Summerslam because HHH couldn't think of anything to do but have Rhea fukk 'em up.

Championships really don’t either

Lowkey, Rhea needs to drop the titles to help the women's division.

Again, not lose clean, but, Rhea is so damn big on RAW, I'm not sure what the Women's title really does for her at this point in her career.

The WWE could really use a women's NWO. Just a big heel faction to "take over."

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

Because you’re taking normal, reasonable, benign conversations and making it seem like it’s lunatics talking. If we’re all over 30, then we all see wrestlemania as somewhere the top stars of the time faces the other top stars of the time. Jey Uso won the royal rumble, Charlotte is facing a green rookie, Cody is facing someone on his retirement tour, thus the only chance of HHH providing the kind of marquee match the Wrestlemania viewers deserve is Bianca and Rhea. They’ve been the top 2 in reactions for women since the return from COVID in 2021, it’s been built up since their 2020 feud that got them both called up with pushes. It’s simply common sense for the match to happen and at Wrestlemania 41, there’s no one else, especially if you want to give the fans the best vs best.

Since HHH took charge, Bianca held the belt long enough to get the record and then won it back for 60 seconds, and then was in a tag team for the past year. If we’ve all watched WWF since the early 90s we know what that usually suggests. We saw in nxt that Bianca never won the title when HHH was in charge. These are facts, I’m not sure why you think these are outlier opinions based on anything. I don’t believe anyone on this board is obsessed with that woman, she’s just a bunch of people favorite female wrestler. If you have a favorite wrestler, you want them booked right, that’s common sense.

Yeah breh you’re not understanding what I meant

I’m saying quit taking this shyt so serious A lot of these conversations ain’t normal quit trying to tell me it is when I’ve dealt this this all year as the only person defending Rhea and her booking


Bianca got the longest women’s title reign. She had the most wins for a female wrestler last year, third overall including men. She held the tag titles for 177 days. She had her own tv show, hella commercials, all over ads. Commentary basically puts her in high regard as the goat

You can point out flaws and I can agree but in the grand scheme of it all I’m going to say so what. And that pisses some posters off.


Lol I don’t need to have “normal conversations” this is play fighting this is a tv show it isn’t real. It really feels like a lot of you guys don’t have hobbies outside of wrestling is what I’m saying.

 

[Versa]

Who has benefited from feuding with Rhea? Who has she elevated? She's becoming Goth Charlotte.

It's funny you said it like this, because the only person I can think of who has benefited from feuding with Rhea (besides Liv obviously) is CHARLOTTE


She beat Rhea for the NXT Championship during that weird covid Mania

Bianca got the longest women’s title reign. She had the most wins for a female wrestler last year, third overall including men. She held the tag titles for 177 days. She had her own tv show, hella commercials, all over ads. Commentary basically puts her in high regard as the goat

Considering her talent level historically, this isn't enough. You know it, I know it, and everyone else does too.

There are people LESS talented than Bianca who have accomplished similar levels of success or more. Nikki Bella comes to mind immediately.
Another one with her own show, commercials, ads and long reigns.

Bianca should be experiencing the same type of success and extended prominence at the top as Cody, Rhea, Roman, Punk, Rollins, etc. She's of that caliber historically.

They still have time to get it right, and I actually ENJOYED the tag title thing. Another notch on her resume but it's time to keep it moving and put her back front and center where she belongs.

As far as I'm concerned, they never even gave Bianca merch worthy of her status. I had to go get her shirt from someone else

 

[VegetasHairline]

It's funny you said it like this, because the only person I can think of who has benefited from feuding with Rhea (besides Liv obviously) is CHARLOTTE


She beat Rhea for the NXT Championship during that weird covid Mania

She's Goth Charlotte without a famous father.

 

[Versa]

She's Goth Charlotte without a famous father.

They just gotta book her more interesting man. She's not a 97 time champion like Charlotte, so there's still time to diversify.

Let's get back to storyline feuds without belts having to be all up in the camera for it to matter.

 

[dh86]

Yeah breh you’re not understanding what I meant

I’m saying quit taking this shyt so serious A lot of these conversations ain’t normal quit trying to tell me it is when I’ve dealt this this all year as the only person defending Rhea and her booking


Bianca got the longest women’s title reign. She had the most wins for a female wrestler last year, third overall including men. She held the tag titles for 177 days. She had her own tv show, hella commercials, all over ads. Commentary basically puts her in high regard as the goat

You can point out flaws and I can agree but in the grand scheme of it all I’m going to say so what. And that pisses some posters off.


Lol I don’t need to have “normal conversations” this is play fighting this is a tv show it isn’t real. It really feels like a lot of you guys don’t have hobbies outside of wrestling is what I’m saying.

No one’s taking this serious or cares to be anyone’s Stan, just you.

 

[Straw Hat Luffy]

I don't mean losing.

I'm actually fine with her basically being unbeatable if Laveck would built up some heels to go against her.

Damage Ctrl should've been better heels. PFC should've been better heels.

I'm fine with it taking 2, 3 women to take her down.

I have a problem with NOTHING fazing her.

I loved this for the story. But, she came back that night on Twitter to talk shyt and she was only out two weeks and dominated the War Games.

Liv/Raquel looked like bad asses for once afte rRhea been beating the three of them up (w Dom) for the last few months.

The Liv feud fell off after Summerslam because HHH couldn't think of anything to do but have Rhea fukk 'em up.





Lowkey, Rhea needs to drop the titles to help the women's division.

Again, not lose clean, but, Rhea is so damn big on RAW, I'm not sure what the Women's title really does for her at this point in her career.

The WWE could really use a women's NWO. Just a big heel faction to "take over."

I agree with the Liv and Raquel looking weak. What also didn’t help is Rhea getting hurt multiple times so hhh stretched out the storyline and his track record right now is he leans towards playing it safe instead of pulling triggers or going different directions once and a while.

I think that’s been our main complaint for wwe this wrestling year. Everything has been decent, somewhat good (at least on RAW) but everything has really been on autopilot.

Liv and Raquel did look weak but as you can see in the grand scheme of it all none of that mattered. Liv is more over than she’s ever been in her wrestling career.

Rhea could lose at mania and be fine. She could honestly take the Bianca route where she’s out of the main title picture for a year by feuding over the mid card titles or being invested in storylines that are more personal.

And then finally give us Rhea vs Bianca one on one down the road sometime in the future

 

[Easy-E]

Liv and Raquel did look weak but as you can see in the grand scheme of it all none of that mattered. Liv is more over than she’s ever been in her wrestling career.

I agree with you 99%, this is 1%.

Because this is making the week to week product...weak. IMO. I personally don't care about who's over, who's not.

Who matters?

It's okay, to skip a week of Judgement Day storylines to develop other stuff and atleast make more people matter.

The world knows Rhea is a badass, we don't have to see her chance JD around like Tom and Jerry every week.

 

[Mike the Executioner]

Who has benefited from feuding with Rhea? Who has she elevated? She's becoming Goth Charlotte.

You notice how this has been a consistent problem with the women's division since......hell, since 2015, probably? Or even further back, since Punk's first run in WWE?

Almost every women's champion or top woman gets mega pushed to the detriment of everyone else. The minute you win that title, you're going to take over the spotlight and maybe work with two other women at a time until you lose.

Nikki Bella? Took over the division. Charlotte? Took over the division? Alexa? Took over. Carmella? Not necessarily took over, but she beat Asuka multiple times. Ronda? Took over. Becky? Took over. Rhea? Took over. Liv? Took over.

I'm leaving out a few (Bayley, Sasha, Bianca) because I wasn't around for their runs, so I don't know if their booking was better. The bottom line is they don't know how to book their champions without making them overpowered. If you're a woman and you're at the top, they'll give you minimal competition, have you destroy whatever competition you do have, and then it's on to the next woman to continue the cycle. Rhea's obviously talented and in 2020, she was fresh. In 2025, she's like the Chiefs. We want to see somebody else on top for a change, or at least give her new opponents that will elevate her title reign.

 

[HipHopStan]

I would have never pegged Liv Morgan as a Dale Earnhardt Sr. fan, much less a NASCAR fan, but here we are.