1998/1999 era DMX >>> Any era Jay Z

[Harry B]

Jay is obvs the better career i like his music but i just dont like how he is all about money. Some reason. I think that willbe his eventual downfall. If that ever happens

All about money, yet he has a daughter with the woman he married.
He's extremely close friends with most of his old brooklyn crew even at 42 years of age. 80% of the people he's signed has no pop artist ability and on.

Jay-z is clearly about money, but only money? That's only true cause he's good at business. If someone like Raekwon was rich as fukk, cats would be saying the same damn thing about him.

 

[bangedher_wholesquad]

80 pwrcent flopped. Jay has terrible scouting skills.

 

[Tom]

100 % of the cats he signed flopped


Dame discovered Kanye and Rihanna was just brought to the nikka, John doe or whoever was president of defjam at the time was gonna sign her bro. Jay just was in the right place at the right time and capitalized off it to make it look like he "made" her.


fuk happened to terria marie fine as bro?..... If rihanna flopped like she did he wouldn't even be associated with her anymore

 

[Hova]

Bunch a bandwagon ass nikkas on here. People making jay threads just to hate. You could have easily made this thread without comparing to hov.

 

[Tom]

fuk Hov u stan ass nikka ^^



its camel hunting season bro




This is the king of NY?

 

[Gifted one]

100 % of the cats he signed flopped


Dame discovered Kanye and Rihanna was just brought to the nikka, John doe or whoever was president of defjam at the time was gonna sign her bro. Jay just was in the right place at the right time and capitalized off it to make it look like he "made" her.


fuk happened to terria marie fine as bro?..... If rihanna flopped like she did he wouldn't even be associated with her anymore

What does that have to do with the thread? OP just right now

 

[Tom]

I was just addressing the two posters above me bro

 

[Boolean]

the Hov hate

ya'll gonna be in tears when he die tho

 

[Tom]

lies^^ We're gonna blast ETHER when his casket rides past Marcy Projects

 

[Absolut da poet ®]

Jay-z has to be the greatest of all time if cats make 1000 threads about a certain rapper being better than him for 18 months of his 17 year long career .

Calm the fukk down, let's appreciate DMX instead of tryna shyt on Jay fakkit.
It only sounds like you're saying Jay-z is the greatest of all time, but he was seen on rare occasions by other rappers when you do these type of threads.

people still havent figured this out.

I though Jay addressed this situation well when he said

Nikkas wake up on my dyck
eat some breakfast first.

 

[Oroko Saki]

Im gonna take this a step further and say that DMX from 98/99 made more classic music then J Z did through his whole career

 

[Methodical]

IDAHIH and FOMFBOMB were some straight classics, but And Then There Was X was rather disappointing, compared to the first ones...after that I stopped looking for his stuff, Great Depression was alright, Grand Champ was ok, after that he was DUNN

Yeah but I remember that...And Then There Was X and Vol. 3... Life and Times of S. Carter came out the same year and on the same month. X's Dec 21st, Jay-Z's Dec 28th and when Everybody copped both albums and everybody said And Then There Was X sh!tty on Vol: 3 and we all agreed that.

Jay-Z's albums was f*cking weak comapre to DMX, It's Dark and Hell Is Hot and Flesh of My Flesh, Blood of My Blood while Jay-Z dropped Hard Knock Life was

DMX was crown at the time.

 

[DANJ!]

Who was Jay to be dictating terms in the first place?

I hate having this discussion because nikkas look at it from Hov's perspective. Look at it from Biggs' & Dame's perspective. A founding member telling the other founding members he deserves 100% of anything when they all put in work is Jay wasn't talking that "these are MY masters" shyt back when he needed Dame & Biggs' startup money & they was the only dudes to believe in him huh?

I'm lookin' at it from both perspectives... but it's harder to look from Dame & Biggs' perspective cause I wouldn't give up a whole label and roster over the publishing on ONE album. I'd look at it like all three of us made the label what it is, I'd understand that he's not tryin' to leave the muhfukka completely empty-handed, and he only wants ONE album because it's important to him. So yeah, it's hard to see it from the perspective of "naw, we ain't givin' that nikka shyt".

I think one album for an entire catalog of various artists' work, and those artists, and the label itself... is a fair enough exchange. I don't think it's the snake move everyone depicts it as, on some "poor Dame" shyt like he just got ruthlessly fukked over outta nowhere.

 

[FreshAIG]

They passed on him until the time was right.When a market opened up for that grimy shyt, they stuck X in a microwave, took a couple of big gulps, and then tossed his ass.They didn't outright market X as the next Pac, but the undertones were there.Not on style, but image wise.It was brilliant marketing.


X is talented, but he's not a franchise player.His short reign was during the weakest era in hip hop history.Reminded me of the NBA during that time when nikkaz like Juwan Howard was getting 100 million dollar contracts.Those late 90's were just a watered down period all around.


I dig some of X's work....."Slipping" is a top 20 rap song of all time IMO


And his verse on "nikkaz done started something" is still damn near 15 years later.Classic as fukk.


But his music never grew....he was a one trick pony.He served his purpose and once that generic street sound started to fade out, so did X

Maybe the dumbest shyt I've ever read

 

[kp404]

Maybe the dumbest shyt I've ever read

Exactly...what kind of shyt is that to say? The late 90s were weak years in hip hop? Embarrassing post