Are we REALLY waxing poetic about CHARLES OAKLEYS offensive prowess
20 years from now those who grew up on 2010's NBA gonna be defending Tony Allen's offense
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20 years from now those who grew up on 2010's NBA gonna be defending Tony Allen's offense
The only one of those guys who plays like a traditional power forward is Zebo and Thompson and in the 1st game he had 15 rebs(6 offensive) while green struggled going 4-13 while in foul trouble trying to keep TT off of the boards.
To the clowns above, nobody said anything about Oakley's offensive prowess. Thanks for illustrating how dimwitted a lot of you are.
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Nah we don't have the national media drilling that into the kids heads.20 years from now those who grew up on 2010's NBA gonna be defending Tony Allen's offense
at you posting this novel at 9 on a Saturday night, then editing it at 4am in the morning. You try waaay too hard dude.
They don't ISO green to go by anyone because he's not that type of player. Even when they go real small and have him at center, they don't ISO him to go one on one. Is TT any quicker than Oakley? How many times did GS ISO Green to go by TT to force the defense to rotate? Dude has a quickness advantage damn near every night and they still consistently allow him to go one on one against his defender. He averaged almost 10 shots a game and half them shots was 3s. He gets his offense off of others. He's not someone who they go to to create.
You really are stupid as fukk and clearly don't watch games, did I say he was going to ISO? No, guys run at him because he's out at the 3 line you dumbass, he's one of the few "stretch" fours in the league that can put the ball on the floor from the 3 line and find shooters or get the hockey assist. With every single post you make, you show how little you actually watch the NBA, nowhere did I even imply that he'd go into Isolation with him
fukking idiot, and you're damn right I edited at 4am, I had to add that you're a clown to the post.More stupid shyt, the Grizz made 1 less 3 in the two games they won, the games they lost the Warriors made 40 more threes than them and the games weren't close, like usual you have no idea what you're talking about.
And nobody on the Knicks could create at all, you're trying to knock the Warriors for something that the Knicks simply couldn't do at all. You don't even understand how defense works today and how having 1 post player on the floor with 4 non-shooters would be neutralized.
fukk you and YOUR premise, the thread is about a team from the 90s playing a team from today, go make your own thread about the differences in eras
You're using two different rules to imply that both of them made it easier for perimeter players today, when that isn't even remotely true. Only 1 of them made it easier, and removing it had to be done because of the fact they were allowing teams to zone up. The zone itself is effective against post players and perimeter players as well, and the fact you basically repeated what I wrote is comical. The zone had a bigger effect on making it harder for post players, but they can still prosper as long as they have 3 or 4 shooters around them, the handchecking shyt you and every other moron brings up just
You and the other idiots act like the 90s guys were playing against a zone and handchecking as well, and that getting rid of handchecking is why guys today turned into stars.One year? he averaged 15/8 on 44% shooting for the Bullets, which are numbers on par with Mike Conley, he did it in the 90s so he must be better than Conley, right?
@ you having the audacity to say someone is on some feminine shyt when a couple posts down you're calling @ghostwriterx names because he can see how much of a fukking clown you are and how empty your posts are. You're a fakkit of the highest order, your posts below speak of how much a bytch you are, if someone wants to agree with you cool I'm not going to throw a hissy fit like your bytch ass.They were the definition of empty ass stats. This is the clown you ppl respect so much for his supposed sports knowledge?at these wack ass arguments that you spent hours composing.
Kyrie had "empty stats" last year as well, Adams posted numbers on a winning team in the 80s as well, so basically you're stupid as shyt.
So Bogut wouldn't be able to defend anyone at all, just because you say so, of course! Lets act like the Bulls themselves didn't have garbage ass centers who weren't always overmatched. You keep saying the Warriors are "small" because they play Green at PF, as though he's not the same height as Rodman, by your definition the Bulls from 96-98 played "small" since Green is heavier than Rodman. Are you going to say Rodman could guard 5s? Cause Green has done that as well, so what will your next bullshyt line be about.
He's been better than Charles Smith was with the Knicks, PERIOD. Get out your feelings, you stay a bytch in every thread and I'd say at least half your fukking replies on this site are to me which is just
you may as well just start following me.The small ball jump shooting perimeter oriented styles that a lot of these current teams play with now would hinder them in a league that isn't geared toward promoting that style. These teams would definitely have a harder time playing in a league that allowed more physicality and wasn't called as tightly on the perimeter. I'm amazed at how stupid you are. You were up to 4am editing this dumb shyt
The Warriors in the 90s were soft as shyt and never had trouble scoring, they couldn't defend, these modern teams can. Very few teams in the 90s had PFs that were post up guys that could expose any of these PFs. But since they played in the 90s they're given special attributes they didn't have, like Oakley somehow taking advantage of Green, even though Zbo & Gasol couldn't. It's never too late to call a fakkit a fakkit, fakkit.Who gives a shyt what your opinion is, you keep talking about how the thread is invalid yet keep responding to it, and now your bytch ass is calling people names when they don't agree with you. This GS team would be able to take advantage of the 3 line in the 90s, there is zero reason for them to be constructed differently, other than you thinking the 90s was gladiator basketball.
I don't care what your post was in response to, you literally cannot break the game down beyond just players comparison, you couldn't explain what the Bulls would have done different to win that game. The Knicks were Championship contenders in the 90s, with John Starks being the 2nd best player, fukk outta here with your bullshyt. Your agenda is to preserve the fond childhood memories you have of the NBA, I love basketball as a whole and give a fukk about what rose colored memories you have of the NBA 20 years ago, teams today are better PERIOD.
What a fukking moron, so Oakley is bigger and stronger than Marc Gasol? Green has already gone against quality bigs and the Warriors came out ontop, he was guarding a fukking 7'0" 270lbs center but Oakley would be the guy to really give it to him The Suns were already addressed in this thread you dumbass, they didn't play one hint of defense and I've already said the Warriors play excellent defense, how stupid can you be? The Warriors limit your threes, and give up 2 pointers all day long because they know that eventually the numbers will swing in their favor.
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get out your feelings too fakkit, you in here calling everybody names when they disagree with you like a bytch. This is my last response to you too, you on some true bytch shyt with how you're responding to other posters in here, shyt is pathetic.
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Nostalgia has no boundaries, breh. Give it time, those who grew up on 2000's ball are gonna start propping that time period up just like 90's cats do, and the cycle will continue.
Oakley 6' 8" 225
Draymond Green 6' 7" 229
How would a guy like Oakley who had no post game, wasn't a shot blocker and couldn't guard on the perimeter take advantage of Draymond in the paint offensively or defensively?
Dennis Rodman - 6'7" 220lbs
Draymond Green - 6'7.5" 236lbs (via Draftexpress Combine)
He's too little though!
@Jplaya2023 already said the 98-99 Spurs, one of the worst title teams ever, would beat the 2014 Spurs
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I can't even tell if there's sarcasm or serious when these guys come in.@Jplaya2023 already said the 98-99 Spurs, one of the worst title teams ever, would beat the 2014 Spurs
But the 90's players were physical!
They would talk trash!
They legit hated each other!
They would make players of today cry!
But hand checking!
Players then would never sell contact to draw calls to help their team!
Everyone played defense and everyone was clutch in the 90's!
Alot of guys played bigge than their heights. You never heard of oakley or buck being called undersized. I digress though. Green is a good player and better overall than oakley with his shooting ability. Ill take oaks defense rebounding and toughness
2014 spurs have no answer for 99 duncan since he playing 43 minutes a night. No answer 4 their size in the paint. Thoze games would be high 80s low 90s which favor 99 spurs. The 8th seeded mavs almost beat the 2014 spurs for crying out loud
Mantis Toboggan M.D.
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So no mention of the Spurs being a lock down defense or how everyone on the team but Duncan and splitter could shoot from deep. No mention of how would the Spurs handle all the 2014 ball handlers on the perimeter
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Derek Harper/John Starks vs Curry/Klay
NY's bench against the Warriors' 2nd unit
Other than Pat, they're worried about a shorter, less athletic, worse ball handling/shooting JR Smith
Derek Harper never made an All Star team, but he did have the talent to make it. He was no where near Curry's current level, but Derek was still a damned good NBA player.
Um, yeah, but they (Mavs) play nothing like the 99 Spurs though.