1990s NBA teams vs Current teams.

[Rakim Allah]

Inefficient small chucker, they're all the same to me :Hannibron:

Mahmoud was a small chucker but he was NOT inefficent like Jennings.

45% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>37%

 

[NormanConnors]

Their frontcourt in the NBA today would run into the same problems the Grizz have.







He'd be over 20ppg, yet he played on teams that played at a pace nobody in the NBA today plays at...and couldn't score 20ppg then.

Yall are just saying shyt to say it at this point, if he couldn't score 20ppg with a team that didn't give a shyt about playing defense, and let you basically run down the court and take the first shot available he wouldn't score 20ppg today in a league that plays at a much slower pace.

I'm going to need to see the #'s on that, cats weren't just coming down the lane on Mutombo and Ellis

 

[Rakim Allah]

He was a shooter in College, nothing backs up the idea he was a shooter in the league when he had to take them manly 23'9" threes

I fukk with him for his stance on the anthem, but he wasn't that good of a player or shooter in the league

He's was a scoring shooter that would be more efficient during this era.

 

[Miggs]

Damn, I knew the 6 got cold but not like this

From ya mans, to "fukk that nikka" in no time

You got an unlimited pass to shyt on Kyle til next years playoffs,i aint saying nothing til then...

 

[How Sway?]

got damn I hate finding threads less than a day old but it has more than 10 pages

 

[Malta]

Mahmoud was a small chucker but he was NOT inefficent like Jennings.

45% >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>37%

I see no difference (And he shot 44% for his career vs Jennings at 39%)

He's was a scoring shooter that would be more efficient during this era.

Why would he be more efficient

This is the 90s bonus it seems, the PG spot is the best it's ever been, yet a guy who wasn't top 10 during his own era would somehow be on par with dudes that are making a ridiculous amount of threes even though he couldn't? And when they're not making 3s, they're like 6'4" and athletic as fukk

 

[Swagnificent]

no new superstars?

look at the last couple of drafts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NBA_draft; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NBA_draft; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NBA_draft; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NBA_draft

2010: John Wall, Demarcus Cousins, and Paul George are the only all-stars. None of em are or will be superstars.
2011: Kyrie Irving, Klay Thompson, and Jimmy Butler are the only all-stars. None of em are or will be superstars. *Kawhi was also part of this class.
2012: Anthony Davis and Damian Lillard are the only all-stars. Davis is the only superstar to enter the NBA from 2010-2013.
2013: Arguably the worst draft ever. Only Giannis and Gobert have all-star potential. However, none will be superstars.

thats a horrible 4 year stretch of talent coming into the league. maybe the worst EVER.

just look back at this stretch of drafts from the 90s.

1992: Shaq and Alonzo Mourning
1993: Penny Hardaway and Chris Webber
1994: Jason Kidd and Grant Hill
1995: Kevin Garnett and Rasheed Wallace
1996: Iverson, Kobe, Nash, and Ray Allen
1997: Duncan and T-Mac
1998: Dirk, Vince, and Pierce


7 straight years where you had on average 2-3 superstar/HOF caliber players arriving per draft. right now we're at a talent deficit in the NBA. the old guard from the early 00s are done. and the recent drafts have not been good enough to help replace the talent that is retiring.

 

[Rakim Allah]

Their frontcourt in the NBA today would run into the same problems the Grizz have.







He'd be over 20ppg, yet he played on teams that played at a pace nobody in the NBA today plays at...and couldn't score 20ppg then.

Yall are just saying shyt to say it at this point, if he couldn't score 20ppg with a team that didn't give a shyt about playing defense, and let you basically run down the court and take the first shot available he wouldn't score 20ppg today in a league that plays at a much slower pace.

That was the Westhead Nuggs. The Nuggs after that season didn't play like that. Mahmoud's mins were so inconsistent plus they wanted him to be the point so he had to get others involved. Their offense was so sh1tty with dumping it into Mutumbo and passing to weak ass scrubs like Stith and Reggie Williams. I despised that team and they way they used Mahmoud. Todays coaches would used Mahmoud to his max potential. He was a short combo guard who came before his time. Give him 35 to 40 mins a game and a green light in todays game and he would have some scoring titles under his belt. His disability is an advantage in that it makes him insanely repetitive. He would of practiced that 3 shot until he shot a respectable clip at the very least.

Dale Brown coaching a prime Mahmoud in 2015 NBA.

 

[Malta]

That was the Westhead Nuggs. The Nuggs after that season didn't play like that. Mahmoud's mins were so inconsistent plus they wanted him to be the point so he had to get others involved. Their offense was so sh1tty with dumping it into Mutumbo and passing to weak ass scrubs like Stith and Reggie Williams. I despised that team and they way they used Mahmoud. Todays coaches would used Mahmoud to his max potential. He was a short combo guard who came before his time. Give him 35 to 40 mins a game and a green light in todays game and he would have some scoring titles under his belt. His disability is an advantage in that it makes him insanely repetitive. He would of practiced that 3 shot until he shot a respectable clip at the very least.

Dale Brown coaching a prime Mahmoud in 2015 NBA.

Bruh, can you please explain why anyone would give him the green light? I mean if you gave Darren Collison the green light he could probably get to 20ppg, but you'd be losing a ton of games as a result. You keep saying to give him the green light, the question becomes why would any sane coach do that



He didn't make the 3 then, he ain't making it now, distance is the same as it was then. Maybe his disability wasn't enough to make him improve that shakey three pointer his first 4 years in the league

 

[Rakim Allah]

I see no difference (And he shot 44% for his career vs Jennings at 39%)



Why would he be more efficient

This is the 90s bonus it seems, the PG spot is the best it's ever been, yet a guy who wasn't top 10 during his own era would somehow be on par with dudes that are making a ridiculous amount of threes even though he couldn't? And when they're not making 3s, they're like 6'4" and athletic as fukk

When Mahmoud got over 2000 mins he shot 46% to Jennings 39%. This nicca Jennings shot 37% twice while playing 32 mins or more. It was a bad comparison from jump.

 

[Malta]

When Mahmoud got over 2000 mins he shot 46% to Jennings 39%. This nicca Jennings shot 37% twice while playing 32 mins or more. It was a bad comparison from jump.

Brandon Jennings is a bad comparison, but 5 scoring titles isn't

 

[Boonapalist]

look at the last couple of drafts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NBA_draft; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NBA_draft; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NBA_draft; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NBA_draft

2010: John Wall, Demarcus Cousins, and Paul George are the only all-stars. None of em are or will be superstars.
2011: Kyrie Irving, Klay Thompson, and Jimmy Butler are the only all-stars. None of em are or will be superstars. *Kawhi was also part of this class.
2012: Anthony Davis and Damian Lillard are the only all-stars. Davis is the only superstar to enter the NBA from 2010-2013.
2013: Arguably the worst draft ever. Only Giannis and Gobert have all-star potential. However, none will be superstars.

thats a horrible 4 year stretch of talent coming into the league. maybe the worst EVER.

just look back at this stretch of drafts from the 90s.

1992: Shaq and Alonzo Mourning
1993: Penny Hardaway and Chris Webber
1994: Jason Kidd and Grant Hill
1995: Kevin Garnett and Rasheed Wallace
1996: Iverson, Kobe, Nash, and Ray Allen
1997: Duncan and T-Mac
1998: Dirk, Vince, and Pierce


7 straight years where you had on average 2-3 superstar/HOF caliber players arriving per draft. right now we're at a talent deficit in the NBA. the old guard from the early 00s are done. and the recent drafts have not been good enough to help replace the talent that is retiring.

Hardaway, Webber, McGrady, Hill, and Mourning were injury plagued.
Wallace was an underachiever
Stop exaggerating the 90's talent.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

The game was a lot tougher then, you had hand checking and it was a lot more physical. Defense was better overall

Teams now adays flop ,travel all day long, and get foul calls for a light tap to the point where harden is expecting one so he tries to take into the paint to get a call but gets a turnover instead lol . Now individually i think Curry and Lebron can hold their own

They called more fouls in the 90s breh

The last 8 seasons have had less personal fouls called than any year in the 90s and 80s.


http://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_stats.html

 

[SchoolboyC]

look at the last couple of drafts. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_NBA_draft; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_NBA_draft; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012_NBA_draft; http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2013_NBA_draft

2010: John Wall, Demarcus Cousins, and Paul George are the only all-stars. None of em are or will be superstars.
2011: Kyrie Irving, Klay Thompson, and Jimmy Butler are the only all-stars. None of em are or will be superstars. *Kawhi was also part of this class.
2012: Anthony Davis and Damian Lillard are the only all-stars. Davis is the only superstar to enter the NBA from 2010-2013.
2013: Arguably the worst draft ever. Only Giannis and Gobert have all-star potential. However, none will be superstars.

thats a horrible 4 year stretch of talent coming into the league. maybe the worst EVER.

just look back at this stretch of drafts from the 90s.

1992: Shaq and Alonzo Mourning
1993: Penny Hardaway and Chris Webber
1994: Jason Kidd and Grant Hill
1995: Kevin Garnett and Rasheed Wallace
1996: Iverson, Kobe, Nash, and Ray Allen
1997: Duncan and T-Mac
1998: Dirk, Vince, and Pierce


7 straight years where you had on average 2-3 superstar/HOF caliber players arriving per draft. right now we're at a talent deficit in the NBA. the old guard from the early 00s are done. and the recent drafts have not been good enough to help replace the talent that is retiring.

You lost all credibility when you listed Rasheed Wallace as a superstar/HOF caliber player

 

[Poitier]

@Malta prepping his excuses for Lebron