[12/15] AEW Dynamite: WINTER IS COMING II - Hangman vs Danielson for the title

[Heelish]

Man… I like MJF but Dante deserved that W

 

[Rollie Forbes]

Punk with a Sting & Darby alliance always made sense

 

[AStrangeName]

You see my vision

 

[Rollie Forbes]

Dude definitely needs the Mahomes cut

That's the official biracial cut. If Dante gets that, he might as well change his name to Jaylen.

 

[Da_Eggman]

They had the graphics already made for the match while pink cslled them out

 

[Jesus H. Christ]

Just noticed CM Punks pro choice shirt he had on. In Texas of all places, that's some heel shyt

 

[Jmare007]

Especially if it makes him even more deranged and aggressive in his matches.

That's what I'm expecting. Crazed Dragon thinking he needs more submissions, stiffer strikes and quicker finishes

...don't like this as a finish to Hangman's first defense. Especially after Danielson spent the match looking like the best wrestler alive and possibly one of the best wrestlers ever. To me, that showed that Hangman wasn't on Bryan's level more than them being equals. Bryan didn't survive that match, Hangman survived it and nearly pulled a rabbit out of his hat. I'm pretty sure that wasn't what they were going for.

If Hangman had won at the last minute after THAT match, the place would have absolutely fukking exploded for him. Great match, great performances from both men (still think Hangman sold too much), but...I'm just not a fan of the draw here.

I agree that Hangman winning at the 59:59 mark would've been a perfect finish but I think you are getting too ahead of yourself in that first paragraph. The crowd was going wild for Page to not tap at the 59 minute mark, when the hell has that happened on an obvious time limit draw? Not only that, they believed Page could win at the last second too. We'll see in the coming weeks if this draw hurt Hangman but so far we have the evidence of the complete opposite, he was loved and cheered like very few have in a setting like the one we just watched.

This didn't feel like Okada vs Shibata were the challenger was so fukking good it didn't feel believable he didn't win (and in that case, lost). And at the end of the day, the feeling that stays with the fans is the classic they witnessed.

This does make it obligatory for a rematch at Revolution with Page winning clean though. I guess Battle of the Belts it's an option too but after the draw on TV they kinda have to make people pay to see finish between them.

Probably not watching until tomorrow morning, but it's good to know I got a solid match to look forward to.

Interested in your thoughts once you watch it

 

[AStrangeName]

Nah he needs the tsunamis

And grow a damn beard switch the style upCosign on theme upgrades a lot of these aew themes sound generic as hell

Nah, he needs this

That'll put butts in the seats, plus that'll get black women to come around too (if they also see Lee Johnson, Jade and Red Velvet as well)

 

[TrueEpic08]

My original post was about her body tho America is one of the most obese countries ain't no middle aged women running around everywhere w abs. Like I said ain't many MEN like that forget women.

Didn't catch that. Mine was about her looks.

Like I said, I'd still smash.

 

[Da_Eggman]

They did a lights out segment, and they only brought out Sting and Hot Pants?

I really thought it was a teaser for a real debut

 

[TrueEpic08]

I agree that Hangman winning at the 59:59 mark would've been a perfect finish but I think you are getting too ahead of yourself in that first paragraph. The crowd was going wild for Page to not tap at the 59 minute mark, when the hell has that happened on an obvious time limit draw? Not only that, they believed Page could win at the last second too. We'll see in the coming weeks if this draw hurt Hangman but so far we have the evidence of the complete opposite, he was loved and cheered like very few have in a setting like the one we just watched.

This didn't feel like Okada vs Shibata were the challenger was so fukking good it didn't feel believable he didn't win (and in that case, lost). And the end of the day, the feeling that stays with the fans is the classic they witnessed.

This does make it obligatory for a rematch at Revolution with Page winning clean though. I guess Battle of the Belts it's an option too but after the draw on TV they kinda have to make people pay to see finish between them.

That's why I said "to me." I'm probably in the minority with my opinion, and even then I just don't like it as a first defense. Third defense, cool. First defense for a brand new champion...I dunno. The match was great and the fans were still with him after all that, which is why I think they should have just had him win. I can't see him getting any more out of winning a rematch that he wouldn't have gotten by just winning here.

As for the Okada/Shibata point, again, that's why I said "to me." I watched the match and the biggest things that stuck out to me were Bryan's cardio and how Hangman looked like a wilted flower in comparison (this is probably as indicative of Hangman's inability to project his character in ring as much as it shows how fit Bryan is, but that's another discussion). That's a clear sign of a weaker fighter for me, or at least someone who's in the losing position/about to be in the losing position. It wouldn't have been a problem in a shorter match, but because they went 60 and Hangman looked like that for 25 minutes, it stuck out. And this doesn't even get into how much offense Bryan gave out in comparison to Hangman. Again, pretty sure I'm in the minority opinion here, but it did impact my view of him as a champion. It felt like he got exposed a little bit (and if this were a real fight, commentators would be jumping all over that point and wondering how Bryan could exploit it in a rematch).

I'm sure Hangman will win the rematch and everything will be fine. The fans aren't going to turn on him over this. But in my opinion it didn't feel like Hangman showed that he was Bryan's equal. It felt like Bryan kicked his ass and Hangman survived long enough to get off a knockout shot that just missed ending the match.

That's just me though

 

[Rollie Forbes]

I really thought it was a teaser for a real debut

Me too. I think the crowd also thought so (Bray's no-compete is up now). That was a real disappointment.

 

[SCJoe]

Me too. I think the crowd also thought so (Bray's no-compete is up now). That was a real disappointment.

I bet that won't be the Last lights out to end in the next couple weeks.

 

[Rollie Forbes]

I bet that won't be the Last lights out to end in the next couple weeks.

You're probably right.

 

[krackdagawd]

Bryan murdering the roster not even the champ can stop him