12/14 ESPN: Terence Crawford vs Egidijus Kavaliauskas / Richard Commey vs Teofimo Lopez

[reservoirdogs]

Man stop, don't defend that bullshyt. Saying that Wilder is the only real man at a promotional company because he's fighting a Top Rank fighter? Stop playing devil's advocate for the sake of playing devil's advocate, knock it off and do better.

Ok, I admit he overdid it, shouldn't have spoken about "true men" and corny shyt like that. I don't know why would it make him a "c00n" though as I saw this opinion from more people on the internet. A company man, yes, don't get the other part though, if he'd criticized GBP or Matchroom the same way nobody would be saying that. Haymon owning PBC doesn't mean that criticizing PBC = talking against black fighters, nobody appointed Haymon and PBC as the official representatives of black American boxing as far as I know, especially that Bradley was caping for another black fighter here.

 

[patscorpio]

Honestly I think TR needs to just scrap espn+ Bouts and just focus on getting casuals with these kind of matches on regular espn

I wouldn't say scrap. I say they need to do a better job of what fights to put on there. Like an ESPN ppv with Crawford vs Khan should have been that ESPN+ deal not a standalone shyt that caused 80 bucks

 

[patscorpio]

Ok, I admit he overdid it, shouldn't have spoken about "true men" and corny shyt like that. I don't know why would it make him a "c00n" though as I saw this opinion from more people on the internet. A company man, yes, don't get the other part though, if he'd criticized GBP or Matchroom the same way nobody would be saying that. Haymon owning PBC doesn't mean that criticizing PBC = talking against black fighters, nobody appointed Haymon and PBC as the official representatives of black American boxing as far as I know, especially that Bradley was caping for another black fighter here.

I think @aceboon is talking more of the bias aspect of what timmy was doing last night. Aceboon is actually on the level when he talks about PBC unlike the most.

 

[reservoirdogs]

I think @aceboon is talking more of the bias aspect of what timmy was doing last night. Hes actually on the level when he talks about PBC unlike the most.

Wasn't talking about aceboon specifically, though it might have been confusing as I reacted to his post

 

[Knicksman20]

im of the mind that he would try to box them.

Exactly. I'm sure Crawford knows who he can & can't do what he did to the Mean Machine to. He would try to box both Spence & Porter. The Benavidez fight showed me if you sit back against Crawford & counter you'll make him get a little anxious & he reaches & force him into exchanges where he's real vulnerable. He was getting timed in that fight & this latest

I've said this about Bud years ago & Spence that at the level they're at (elite) they get hit clean way too often. It's only a matter of time before they get clipped or stopped

 

[Thatrogueassdiaz]

He does this EVERY FIGHT. He is leaving himself open to getting knocked out because he is RECKLESS and his defense is not as good as people hype it up to be.

Hes never been an elite defender.

I think Bud is starting to realize he ain’t gettin nobody from PBC

And he did it to himself. Doesn't help Arum doesnt have a good or working relationship with Haymon.

This the year where these dudes ggg, Spence, Crawford are having tough fights. Maybe inactivity is the problem

One guy beats a 4 division champ (actually carrie's him, but that's another story) and unifies against a guy who has fought every elite welterweight not named Crawford. Of the other two, one was gifted a decision against a guy who lost to a guy who he had beat a few years prior, and the other had a pay per view against a guy who hasn't been relevant since 2013.

Crawfords opponents at welterweight
Mean machine
Benavides
Kahn 2019
Horn
Opps since winning fighter of the year in 2014 5 years worth of fights
Indongo, Diaz, Sugar John Molina, Postol, Lundy, Dierry Jean, Dulorme

#1 pound for pound and hasn't fought someone 60% as skilled as he is.

Can blame Arum for that, but it was Bud who decided to stay.

Spence been fighting better guys lately for sure.

but let’s not act like his resume wasn’t lacking something serious in 2018

where do yall come up with this shyt? Well let's see, Spenxe was waiting for fukking Danny and Shawn to fight for a vacant title so he could unify. fukk else was he supposed to do when the guy with 2 of the other titles gets stripped of one, gets injured, and refuses to fight?

 

[The axe murderer]

Exactly. I'm sure Crawford knows who he can & can't do what he did to the Mean Machine to. He would try to box both Spence & Porter. The Benavidez fight showed me if you sit back against Crawford & counter you'll make him get a little anxious & he reaches & force him into exchanges where he's real vulnerable. He was getting timed in that fight & this latest

I've said this about Bud years ago & Spence that at the level they're at (elite) they get hit clean way too often. It's only a matter of time before they get clipped or stopped

They're too gully. Very willing to get into a scrap

 

[reservoirdogs]

His 147 resume isn't that good but also isn't as bad as many try to picture it.
Horn gave the same Pac who later beat Broner easy and beat Thurman too, a tough ass fight, Crawford played with him.

 

[The axe murderer]

Herein lies the issue with ESPN......They think boxing is one of the four majors....it's not.

If you look at their presentation, the intros, the setup stories, the announcers...they try to make every fight into a story, very NFLish, and it's simply not. BC of that you end up with a lot of dead time between fights, which really kills the mood of the fight. DAZN guilty of the same shyt when Canelo fights.

True

 

[Achille]

Pretty good card overall and looked to be a sold-out crowd at MSG. I hope Crawford is able to get some bigger names next year and Lopez/Loma happens in April.

 

[Dallas' 4 Eva]

Hes never been an elite defender.

I know that bruh, but I've seen people on here saying he is great defensively and I've been waiting to see this defensive brilliance from him and instead I'm always left thinking he is the worst defensively out of all the top welterweights. He be getting caught with some SHOTS, he just aint fought a fighter he couldn't physically dominate in some way who could catch him with them. As much as people accuse Spence of being a weight bully, I've been seeing it out of Crawford too only Crawford does it against B and C level guys(and catches those big shots against B and C level guys), while Spence catches some big shots against A level comp. Not to mention I gotta say it Crawford chin is suspect to me. I feel like he gone get put to sleep one of these days, he does not react well to these punches he be taking.

 

[Payroll]

Spence sounding like a Coli breh

 

[UpAndComing]

Errol Spence fans in here heavy

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

He's a good friend of Crawford that's been known and so far the problem was ESPN/TR not putting themselves in line enough to demand the big 147 fights to Crawford. Now that they do that's the problem?

Breh fukking stop

The problem is Bradley calling Errybody at PBC a coward N Bud is “begging” to fight these nikkas

Like we didn’t fukking just see Bud say I don’t need these nikkas... like we didn’t see Bob offer 3 milly to Swift N go N give Khan 5 milly... that’s the exact opposite of wtf Bradley talking bout

 

[Black Lightning]

crawford has been on a 4 fight ko streak since moving up to 147. been on a ko streak since 2016.

A ko streak against the likes of Jeff Horn, Jose Benavidez jr, "Mr. Glass Chin" Amir Khan & Egidijus Kavaliauskas.

Dude hasn't fought one top tier welterweight yet.