The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
Wilder lookin like phimks charging his shot for every round he loses
11/23 PBC on FOX PPV | Wilder vs Ortiz II
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Bigblackted4
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Power isn’t the skill, timing is. He timed his KO punches perfectly.
Bigblackted4
Superstar
One of the highlights of tonight, dude won and couldn’t control hisselfnow to gather my thoughts on the card
deontay's brother might want to think about retirement unless he overgoes a serious overhaul in training and his camp....you cant be getting bodied by journeymen like this before you reach 10 fights..this journeyman tonight looked like he was c walking after landing that rear hook in celebration..sheesh
i was happy ramirez was able to avenge that bullshyt ass draw against barthelemy..i remember watching that shyt on fs1 and thinking ramirez was beating that ass..and that rematch was originally going to be on a fs1 prelim..but thanks to nery-rodriguez fukkery he got to shine on a PPV where millions were watching legally and illegally..so good for him..a robbery that gets redeemed in the way he did is always whassup
figueroa vs ceja was easily the fight of the night and a FOTY candidate...man that was a hell of a fight....cats in the theater were
at the level of fades that were handed out in this fight..in contrast the live audience was garbage watching this...it was like miura vs vargas all over again..those figueroas bruh..they dont go away easy...power, an insane workrate, and a chin out of this world...ceja was a hell of a test for him...and a test i thought he lost..ceja was landing hard, clean, and often...same shyt that omar did before that arakawa fight..the PBC draw reared its head..personally i thought figueroa faded down the stretch and lost the fight on some 7 to 5 shyt but on other hand ceja did blow weight by 4.5 lbs..but omar sr and team might want to be very careful about young figueroa's matchmaking going forward...for ceja dude took part in arguably 2 FOTY candidates on PBC..violent ones at that...he may need a soft touch and if hes not going to be making 122..move up
...before dude turns into another francisco vargas lol
LSC vs Flores was straight up and down boring as shyt...it was literally putting cats to sleep in the theater...how does someone have that type of workrate and be boring as fukk...i had to get up between 5th and 6th rounds to get one of those basehead sweet icee drinks so it wouldnt put me to sleep..the ones there that were awake were like..but hey lsc has his 4th title but right now the true WBA champ at 130 is rene alvarado who i understood upset andrew cancio tonight for the belt..i will be watching that card tomorrow
wilder vs ortiz 2..nothing more to be said...ortiz was outboxing him...wilder didnt look good or look like he had any real plan..outside of landing some hooks to the body..ortiz was winning the rounds to me and officially up on all 3 cards...but fukked up 1 sec and got his equilibrium blasted to parts unknown with 1 right hand...eyes looking like when roy jones blasted out art serwano...i def didnt like what i saw in his fight against christian hammer never mind the last 2 fights and i said before 5...i was 2 rounds off
He rarely is winning in his fights but EVERY SINGLE ONE he hits his opponent with Dynamite so.... Remind me of how many KOs he has and how many fights he has?
The axe murderer
For I am death and I ride on a pale horse
He hit dude on forehead too. Wtf kinda power he got
Dushane Hill
Superstar
That faint that led to the KO punch was the nicest move I've ever seen from Wilder.
itsyoung!!
Veteran
Ortiz was beating Wilder ass, including the round he got knocked out in. I had him 6-0 maybe 5-1 at worseYou coli nikkas so gullible. Thought Ortiz had a chance
His mistake was being overly aggressive in the last 10 seconds of a round he was whooping Wilder ass in
He moved away from the cautious game plan that was winning and it cost him the fight with literal seconds left that he coulda just stalled out and head to round 8
Very boring and disappointing fight. The knock out was entertaining but thats the only highlight of 2 goliath of humans have in 7 full rounds
He definitely needs to learn how to at least jab to the body. The left hook looked decent the few times he threw it. He doesn’t even set up his shot, he just waits for the other person to get tired or overconfident and catches them slipping. Still, it works
Please don't pretend like Wilder was or has ever been some kind of skilled boxer ever in his career. He was getting outboxed handily today. When was the last time Deontay WIlder has ever been the most skilled of the two boxers in the ring? There is nothing about how he fights that is methodical, his footwork is not good, he throws a lot of looping punches, it goes on and on. He's got his right hand as an equalizer, it is what it is, but a good boxer, he is not. A man that has fought all before him so I can't knock him for that but in many of his fights, what are we left with? It's never, he put together a boxing virtuoso. It is always about the right hand that came out of nowhere, no more, no less.
He might make it to 50-0 with the right opponents but I feel as soon as he runs up against someone who can truly box for 12 complete rounds (which is tough for big guys), they’ll just outpoint him. And I’m a huge Wilder fan. I really want to know what his trainer has him do for 6 weeks in camp.
Creflo ½ Dollar
Superstar
The only true way to beat wilder I think is to jump all over him. You can try the fury route but you got 12 rounds to avoid 1 punch.
Ruiz would do a good job on the inside.
Ruiz would do a good job on the inside.
UserNameless
Veteran
Wilder is gonna have to KO Fury, too 
Damn, Wilder is unfair as hell. Ortiz was winning handily then boom, he's out. As Deontay said, he just need to be perfect for one second while his opponents have to be for 12 rounds and that's just what happened. In the 7th, you could see Ortiz loosing up, feeling comfy, landing combos but probably starting to be over-confident/lazy which was just what Wilder needed to land.
But though he's not super skilled, I think Wilder do have a very good skill in his lead hand pawing. Like his jab can be good a ttimes (but was really was not tonight) but instead his lead his an underrated helper in his game. And in the KO, you could see that it only happened because he manipulated Ortiz so he could slip right in the path of his right hand. I feel like while he's losing all the rounds, he's actually computing the best output for this right hand to detonate and doing so using his jab and probably calculating the best outputs. On the KO punch, the jab is not commited at all and is not even on target but is legit enough to make Ortiz slip towards the right hand and Wilder set that up perfectly. I don't know how to explain it properly but I feel like the right hand doesn't really come out of nowhere but is more a result of him "setting up" the best probability for it to land.
Like you could say Wilder was looking bad and I had him losing all rounds basically but once he started to fire the cannon past the 4th round, I% feel like it's at this moment that he started feeling confident in landing and closing in on the target.
But though he's not super skilled, I think Wilder do have a very good skill in his lead hand pawing. Like his jab can be good a ttimes (but was really was not tonight) but instead his lead his an underrated helper in his game. And in the KO, you could see that it only happened because he manipulated Ortiz so he could slip right in the path of his right hand. I feel like while he's losing all the rounds, he's actually computing the best output for this right hand to detonate and doing so using his jab and probably calculating the best outputs. On the KO punch, the jab is not commited at all and is not even on target but is legit enough to make Ortiz slip towards the right hand and Wilder set that up perfectly. I don't know how to explain it properly but I feel like the right hand doesn't really come out of nowhere but is more a result of him "setting up" the best probability for it to land.
Like you could say Wilder was looking bad and I had him losing all rounds basically but once he started to fire the cannon past the 4th round, I% feel like it's at this moment that he started feeling confident in landing and closing in on the target.
bigbadbossup2012
Biggest baddest boss
I totally agree. Wilder isn't the most skillful, BUT he's pretty smart, he knows his strengths and weaknesses and he definitely was computing everything for the big set up
UserNameless
Veteran
Is Ortiz ok? Looked like he briefly seized up when he hit the mat 
Why is dude dressed like MJ in 84
UserNameless
Veteran
Hits the mat at 5 seconds, on his feet at the 15 second mark. That definitely adds up to 14 seconds..
nah he was about 2 seconds slow on the count but Fury woulda still made it up in time ... fury literally resurrected
wilder gonna have to really tuck him in and put him to sleep sleep ...