10 Wins aint what it used to be: Official 2016 New York Jets Offseason thread

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I think they looked at how awful the situation around him was because of sanctions and bad coaching and figured they'd take a chance on a guy who was very highly touted coming out of hs and wasn't bad his freshman year

You know ego is a part of it. One of the coaches probably said "I could fix him and unlock his potential"

Problem is they could have gotten him much later

He's got tiny hands which I think causes a lot of the errant throws. Puzzling pick considering a lot of the Maccagnan guys seem to be having decent camps.
 

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Y'all can't seriously be throwing a young rookie under the bus because of bad camp...

I thought we all knew he was nowhere near ready to play this season...
Yall know how jets fans are.

If every rookie isn't a pro bowler in their first camp they're busts that have no chance ever of improving
 

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Amaro continues to impress. Fitz threw it into triple coverage and Amaro went up and made a great play.

Amaro apparently lost 20 lbs and has improved tremendously at blocking while making highlight reel catches all camp :takedat:
Jets TE Amaro: From fun-loving to dedicated

Interesting article. Apparently he's trying a lot harder this time around.
Y'all can't seriously be throwing a young rookie under the bus because of bad camp...

I thought we all knew he was nowhere near ready to play this season...
Word. I'm not even a fan of picking him that high, but you gotta let the kid live.
 

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If Geno can impress in preseason, he can replace Fitz after the latter gets benched.
 

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FLORHAM PARK, N.J. -- Ryan Fitzpatrick might be "elite" in the eyes of teammateBrandon Marshall, but the New York Jets' quarterback is no such thing in the opinion of NFL types.

Our man Mike Sando has posted his annual quarterback tier rankings, based on a poll of 42 league insiders -- 10 general managers, five head coaches, seven offensive coordinators, five defensive coordinators, eight personnel evaluators and seven other position coaches/executives. They were asked to rate 33 quarterbacks, placing them into one of five tiers. You know the drill: Tier 1 is elite, tier 5 is rock bottom.

Fitzpatrick finished in tier 3, defined as: "Legit starter but needs heavy run game/defense to win." He finished 25th out of 33 quarterbacks, behind Ryan Tannehill (24th) and ahead of Tyrod Taylor (26th). Obviously, it wasn't a great showing for the AFC East, except for Tom Brady (first).

An unnamed head coach and offensive coordinator offered their opinions of Fitzpatrick.

The head coach: "He was with Chan Gailey, and Chan is good. If he leaves Chan, he needs to get back to Harvard and redo that degree. Chan has been a football lifesaver."

The offensive coordinator: "He has played well, but he just makes those decisions that are head scratchers. Last year, when they had a chance to get into the playoffs if they won the game, that was his chance to be the guy, and he couldn't get it done. He is a great guy, but he has had opportunities everywhere."


That's a rather blunt assessment of Fitzpatrick, whose value to the Jets is greater than anywhere else. He didn't draw any significant interest on the free-agent market, contributing to a long contract dispute. They ended up signing him for $12 million, which, by the way, ranks 23rd in average-per-year among quarterbacks.
 

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That unamed co-ordinator is right on the money. It's absurd how many opportunities this dude gets just to keep losing and leading teams home early.
 

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Y'all can't seriously be throwing a young rookie under the bus because of bad camp...

I thought we all knew he was nowhere near ready to play this season...

I'm not giving up on dude, but there are a few variables that make it is to take issue with the pick.

First and foremost: We had Geno and Petty on the roster with Fitz likely to be back. That means the pick either locked us into a 4 QB roster or meant giving up on one of the other developmental QB's so we could get a vet that would at least be a serious back-up candidate because Petty and Hack were obviously not ready.

Second: That's compounded by the fact we reached for Hack and used a second round pick on him. So we picked a project at a position where we already had two projects in the second round where we could have chased an impact player in a position of need.

Third: Hack wasn't good in college. He had a spark when he started. So as he struggles now, people are obviously going to say "of course he's bad...dude wasn't good in college even"

Fourth: The second round draft pick curse for the Jets is reaching Madden Curse levels of impact...it's probably just a coincidence but it happens so often that a ton of Jets fans are expecting failure before the guy even starts.

So yeah...it makes sense that some cats are frustrated with the pick. Even if Hack works out a couple of years from now, Petty and Geno are already on the roster. We're a win now team that really coulda used another impact rookie with that selection and we reached on a developmental QB that a lot of people wouldn't have wanted in the fourth round let alone the second.
 

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I'm not giving up on dude, but there are a few variables that make it is to take issue with the pick.

First and foremost: We had Geno and Petty on the roster with Fitz likely to be back. That means the pick either locked us into a 4 QB roster or meant giving up on one of the other developmental QB's so we could get a vet that would at least be a serious back-up candidate because Petty and Hack were obviously not ready.

Second: That's compounded by the fact we reached for Hack and used a second round pick on him. So we picked a project at a position where we already had two projects in the second round where we could have chased an impact player in a position of need.

Third: Hack wasn't good in college. He had a spark when he started. So as he struggles now, people are obviously going to say "of course he's bad...dude wasn't good in college even"

Fourth: The second round draft pick curse for the Jets is reaching Madden Curse levels of impact...it's probably just a coincidence but it happens so often that a ton of Jets fans are expecting failure before the guy even starts.

So yeah...it makes sense that some cats are frustrated with the pick. Even if Hack works out a couple of years from now, Petty and Geno are already on the roster. We're a win now team that really coulda used another impact rookie with that selection and we reached on a developmental QB that a lot of people wouldn't have wanted in the fourth round let alone the second.
If Geno, Fitz and Petty weren't trash we wouldn't have reached for Hack in the second round...They won't carry 4 QBs, they're obviously not high on Petty so he's going to be the odd man out...

A franchise QB has been this organizations biggest need since Namath...The FO saw something they like in Hack so they pulled the trigger on him...That doesn't mean he doesn't have flaws...He has plenty and almost all of them have to do with his footwork...The kid doesn't lack talent or intelligence...

That said we never develop QB talent so I'm about 99% sure this kid will be a bust...The Jets are career DOA for QBs with fundamental issues...
 
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