10 Reasons Biggie is Better than 2Pac

[3rdWorld]

by now i like biggies music better than pac's (used to be the other way around when i was younger), but half of this list is complete bullshyt. bigge was the better mc, pac was the more influential rapper, it's that simple.

junior mafia was not better than the outlawz, they were the epitome of weedcarriers, they were so whack, biggie didn't even put them on his own albums. biggie might have been the king of new york, but at that time the westcoasts was more relevant and pac was the king of the west. biggie didn't give a platform to female mc's, he gave a platform to his mistresses. and as for no. 10 i don't even know how the came up with that. they might be talking about jay-z, but tupac is the most emulated rapper ever and influenced generations of rap stars. i give them number 1 and 2, the rest is either debatable or not true.

I agree with you for the most part, but please list this plethora of influenced rappers by name and explain exactly how he influenced them and what its worth for hip hop in the end. I keep hearing this, but the only clear example I can find is The Realest and Nas writing some shyt on his gut.

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

Instead of tryna escape through my comics,
Why don't I just blast a (little something like) Onyx
To put me in the mood to wanna fight and write songs that
Say what I wanna say to the kid that said that I eyeballed him
Grab hold of my balls like that's right fight's on bytch

eminem >>>>>>>> biggie

Eminem is a hipnototical pottnototical astronomical blastonfoneral type rapper

 

[Playa With Tha Passport]

I suggest u nikkas just shut up if u dont know what yall talkin bout..like...seriously..this shyt is getting ridiculous...he went from NY to B More to the West Coast ALL in the 80s..

Y did you ignore my other reply to u ?

Had nothing 2 say huh

 

[intilectual recipricol]

I agree with you for the most part, but please list this plethora of influenced rappers by name and explain exactly how he influenced them and what its worth for hip hop in the end. I keep hearing this, but the only clear example I can find is The Realest and Nas writing some shyt on his gut.

These rap nikkaz are taking aspects of Pac, but none of em have been able to take the complete package...

The Realest, naS, DMX, Ja Rule, Biggie, No Limit, 50, Beans, Jada, Jay, Lil Zane, Weezy, sadly Ye, Lu, 3000, the list is endless... but none of em are the complete package

 

[karim]

I agree with you for the most part, but please list this plethora of influenced rappers by name and explain exactly how he influenced them and what its worth for hip hop in the end. I keep hearing this, but the only clear example I can find is The Realest and Nas writing some shyt on his gut.

50 cent, dmx, ja rule, nas and jay-z all took a leaf out of tupacs book at some point. eminem was basically tupac for white kids. i don't think there was a single no limit release that came out after '96 that didn't reference some of pacs work. tupac made tattoos and bandanas popular and i would even argue started what became known as bling bling, sporting platinum and diamonds instead of gold and he started the trend to release double albums. and all of that is just off the top of my head. i'd probably find a kot more if i digged deeper.

 

[jimbean]

 

[samtalksradio]

Instead of tryna escape through my comics,
Why don't I just blast a little something like Onyx
To put me in the mood to wanna fight and write songs that
Say what I wanna say to the kid that said that I eyeballed him
Grab hold of my balls like that's right fight's on bytch

eminem >>>>>>>> biggie in terms of rhyme schemes

Same can be said for Pac. Since Eminem has a better rhyme scheme then Biggie and Biggie has a better rhyme scheme compared to Pac using your logic that would mean in terms of rhyme schemes Eminem>>>>>>Biggie>>>>>>>>>> Tupac.

 

[3rdWorld]

These rap nikkaz are taking aspects of Pac, but none of em have been able to take the complete package...

The Realest, naS, DMX, Ja Rule, Biggie, No Limit, 50, Beans, Jada, Jay, Lil Zane, Weezy, sadly Ye, Lu, 3000, the list is endless... but none of em are the complete package

Then you've actually proven the point he that hasnt dramatically influenced anyone. All those rappers were the same before and after Pac, they may have taken their shirt off but beyond that its Pac fan fantasy.

The Realest was an industry clone so irrelevant to argument
X has always been X
Nas has always been Nas before and after Pac. Nas dont need A B C rappers assistance, in antics maybe.
Jarbage..
Big before and after Pac is exactly the same, Pac wished Biggie copied him.
No Limit were universal biters, Pac wasnt unique here.
50, here I agree. 50 used the same I got shot x times formula, shirtless, tats, endless senseless beefs trying to ruin Black artists and it worked.
Beans, I dont see it.
Jada, I dont see it..
Jay, dont see it..
Zane another Realest
Weezy? Pac invented Tats? Weezy dont rhyme like Pac no day, dress maybe..
Lu, not sure..
3k, where?

None of these people minus Ja, Zane and Realest you can draw comparisons with when it comes to being an actual MC. His influence lies in the way he acted, not in his rhyme or musical style.

 

[pointproven214]

Same can be said for Pac. Since Eminem has a better rhyme scheme then Biggie and Biggie has a better rhyme scheme compared to Pac using your logic that would mean in terms of rhyme schemes Eminem>>>>>>Biggie>>>>>>>>>> Tupac.

lmao u speak for yourself pac to me had better rhyme schemes then both imo.

 

[intilectual recipricol]

Then you've actually proven the point he that hasnt dramatically influenced anyone. All those rappers were the same before and after Pac, they may have taken their shirt off but beyond that its Pac fan fantasy.

The Realest was an industry clone so irrelevant to argument
X has always been X
Nas has always been Nas before and after Pac. Nas dont need A B C rappers assistance, in antics maybe.
Jarbage..
Big before and after Pac is exactly the same, Pac wished Biggie copied him.
No Limit were universal biters, Pac wasnt unique here.
50, here I agree. 50 used the same I got shot x times formula, shirtless, tats, endless senseless beefs trying to ruin Black artists and it worked.
Beans, I dont see it.
Jada, I dont see it..
Jay, dont see it..
Zane another Realest
Weezy? Pac invented Tats? Weezy dont rhyme like Pac no day, dress maybe..
Lu, not sure..
3k, where?

None of these people minus Ja, Zane and Realest you can draw comparisons with when it comes to being an actual MC. His influence lies in the way he acted, not in his rhyme or musical style.

No, you dont get it. All those nikkaz tried to take an aspect of Pac, they are all majorly influenced by Pac. that weak ass naS line "name a rapper than I aint influenced..." is really real when it comes to Pac, not so much when it comes to naS. Pac's thumbprint is all over this rap shyt. The fact that he couldnt be duplicated only speaks to his greatness.

For example you can see MJ all in the style of Kobe, Vince Carter, T-Mac, etc... but none of them nikkaz were MJ. That doesnt mean MJ didnt influence the league. What kinda piff you on breh?

 

[karim]

You don't need exact Clones to be influential. People took aspects of his content and style and ran with it. That's influence. Same as Jay isn't an exact copy of big, but borrowed some of what he did and made it part of his formula.

Then you've actually proven the point he that hasnt dramatically influenced anyone. All those rappers were the same before and after Pac, they may have taken their shirt off but beyond that its Pac fan fantasy.

The Realest was an industry clone so irrelevant to argument
X has always been X
Nas has always been Nas before and after Pac. Nas dont need A B C rappers assistance, in antics maybe.
Jarbage..
Big before and after Pac is exactly the same, Pac wished Biggie copied him.
No Limit were universal biters, Pac wasnt unique here.
50, here I agree. 50 used the same I got shot x times formula, shirtless, tats, endless senseless beefs trying to ruin Black artists and it worked.
Beans, I dont see it.
Jada, I dont see it..
Jay, dont see it..
Zane another Realest
Weezy? Pac invented Tats? Weezy dont rhyme like Pac no day, dress maybe..
Lu, not sure..
3k, where?

None of these people minus Ja, Zane and Realest you can draw comparisons with when it comes to being an actual MC. His influence lies in the way he acted, not in his rhyme or musical style.

 

[Nomad1]

Then you've actually proven the point he that hasnt dramatically influenced anyone. All those rappers were the same before and after Pac, they may have taken their shirt off but beyond that its Pac fan fantasy.

The Realest was an industry clone so irrelevant to argument
X has always been X
Nas has always been Nas before and after Pac. Nas dont need A B C rappers assistance, in antics maybe.
Jarbage..
Big before and after Pac is exactly the same, Pac wished Biggie copied him.
No Limit were universal biters, Pac wasnt unique here.
50, here I agree. 50 used the same I got shot x times formula, shirtless, tats, endless senseless beefs trying to ruin Black artists and it worked.
Beans, I dont see it.
Jada, I dont see it..
Jay, dont see it..
Zane another Realest
Weezy? Pac invented Tats? Weezy dont rhyme like Pac no day, dress maybe..
Lu, not sure..
3k, where?

None of these people minus Ja, Zane and Realest you can draw comparisons with when it comes to being an actual MC. His influence lies in the way he acted, not in his rhyme or musical style.

keep living in a dream world lol. Biggie is not more influential than Pac. End of discussion.

 

[Quinn]

Nobody but the Pac stans will debate this. And we've been rightly ignoring them anyway.

 

[Loud Still Coolin]

Nobody but the Pac stans will debate this. And we've been rightly ignoring them anyway.

and the threead goes on

 

[Nomad1]

I have yet to see a thread dedicated to Biggie and to see it go pass 10 pages. nikkas need to throw Pac's name for it to go platinum . That's yall Kony?