1 in 5 women disappointed by man's proposal

[luvaznpoon]

False.

There were 5 categories, of which THEN women chose OTHER options.

The question wasn't: are you happy, yes or no,

the question, of these 5 which do you agree with.

Thats a completely different question.



The methodology was flawed.

Its like when they say people "dislike atheists" more than pedophiles or something, but the question is phrased in a fukked up way.


So? dudes would want sex regardless.

porn changes the DYNAMIC of sex for sure, but the pursuit? Definitely not.


I dont even know what this means.

Ether.

 

[Buckeye Fever]

You know it's gotta be something like 95% white women in this poll too .

Well, yeah, cant find that many black women gettin proposed to

 

[MAKAVELI25]

When I proposed to my wife I had just come back from getting her ring. She came in from work and we were in the room and I just asked her. I was already changed into my lounging clothes. Nothing fancy and we are happily married. If that type of shyt matters to you maybe you shouldn't be getting married. We both cried and appreciated the moment even though there was no bullshyt involved. All that fluff is bullshyt. I love my wife and she loves me. I think my story is better then these fake ass proposals people due just so they can tell a story of how great the proposal was. Nothing story book about me.

Co-sign this, I'm trying to marry a level-headed chick, not a dumb ass who thinks 'we should be wearing our finest garments and riding in a horse carriage at exactly midnight' when I propose. The chicks worth marrying don't care how you propose, they just want it to be genuine and loving. Birds are for fukking NOT marrying

 

[69 others]

People and their fairy tales.

Putting too much stock in the proposal, the wedding and the ring and completely forgetting about the actual marriage.

I blame Disney movies.

Nah blame De Beers:
Diamonds are no more than semiprecious gems like gemstones etc with not much industrial uses and the supply of it far exceeds the demand but it's controlled by the De Beers diamond cartel who went on a campiagn in the 1940's to make it a luxury consumer good to spur demand:

In its 1947 strategy plan, the advertising agency strongly emphasized a psychological approach. "We are dealing with a problem in mass psychology. We seek to ... strengthen the tradition of the diamond engagement ring -- to make it a psychological necessity capable of competing successfully at the retail level with utility goods and services...." It defined as its target audience "some 70 million people 15 years and over whose opinion we hope to influence in support of our objectives." N. W. Ayer outlined a subtle program that included arranging for lecturers to visit high schools across the country. "All of these lectures revolve around the diamond engagement ring, and are reaching thousands of girls in their assemblies, classes and informal meetings in our leading educational institutions," the agency explained in a memorandum to De Beers. The agency had organized, in 1946, a weekly service called "Hollywood Personalities," which provided 125 leading newspapers with descriptions of the diamonds worn by movie stars....

american women were indoctrinated a long time ago to believe diamonds == love. the atlantic have a good well researched article about it
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine...ed-to-sell-a-diamond/304575/?single_page=true

 

[LA Fisher]

That 300 dollar cubic zirconia gonna look like it cost 5 thousand

 

[IAmGettingAMailOrderBride]

My mail order bride gonna love her ring

 

[Dirty Mcdrawz]

the way i proposed sucked

it was on valentines day, i made dinner and dropped some flowers everywhere. i rented a projector and threw a picture of us on our first date against the wall. when she got home and saw everything she was all

"aww, this is so sweet baby" and then i was like "you'll like this more....*drops on knee and gives a long spill about being with her forever blah blah yada will you marry*

she of course said yes. she sat down and i poured her glass of wine and then i proceeded to collect my book bag and my hard drive and bounced because i had a ton of school work to do and i needed to use the lab at school. she was heated. when i looked back at her she was in the candle light like

 

[StickStickly]

False.

There were 5 categories, of which THEN women chose OTHER options.

The question wasn't: are you happy, yes or no,

the question, of these 5 which do you agree with.

Thats a completely different question.

yeah so...the majority of women agreed with the statement that they were happy with the ring lol. People are focusing on the unhappy minority. By the way, where does the article list the items in the survey? For all we know, the majority of the women chose the statement that said they were satisfied. Still warrants the same conclusion: the majority agreed that they were satisfied with the ring.

The methodology was flawed.

of course it was flawed. I'm not arguing that. I looked to find the analysis and it's nowhere. There's no mention of where they sampled this group from, their demographics, the type of analysis run, the qualifications of the people conducting it. It's a pop psychology study for all we know. Unless someone can find the data...

People need to take studies with a grain of salt.

Its like when they say people "dislike atheists" more than pedophiles or something, but the question is phrased in a fukked up way.

so we both agree it's faulty and questionable. So why are people swearing off women and getting upset over a faulty survey that tells half of the story.

So? dudes would want sex regardless.

Yeah. I wasn't trying to argue that. It's an observation. The observation is that You have these two events that change how we view relationships, idealized porn and idealized romance media. They both affect groups in different ways. There's no "so" it's just an observation lol.

porn changes the DYNAMIC of sex for sure, but the pursuit? Definitely not.

So porn doesn't change expectations of relationships? Look porn isn't a bad thing. But to say it doesn't change anything in a person or what they want from others is a blind statement.

I dont even know what this means.

im talking about discussing what the sexes want from relationships. It seems like each group belittles or puts down what the other wants and it leads to misunderstanding and bytching. Look at this thread. Look at the study. Would it kill men and women to try to understand one another a little better?

Look. we are on the same side . I'm not denying that you or others have run into some materialistic women. All I'm saying is maybe if people would belittle what the other wants and quit making something that is supposed to enrich life into some power struggle, maybe it wouldn't seem so doom and gloom for you all. It just seems like people WANT life to be shyt, they want to be miserable, they want to believe all women are against them, and can't open their eyes to good people.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

yeah so...the majority of women agreed with the statement that they were happy with the ring lol.

No They didn't. they disagreed with OTHER aspects of the wedding proposal.

the point is that you can't rely on this statistic because other options were possible. Only a binary question would have addressed this.

People are focusing on the unhappy minority. By the way, where does the article list the items in the survey? For all we know, the majority of the women chose the statement that said they were satisfied. Still warrants the same conclusion: the majority agreed that they were satisfied with the ring.

You repeated yourself and were STILL wrong.

of course it was flawed. I'm not arguing that.

but you damn sure are DEFENDING it

I looked to find the analysis and it's nowhere. There's no mention of where they sampled this group from, their demographics, the type of analysis run, the qualifications of the people conducting it. It's a pop psychology study for all we know. Unless someone can find the data...

read the article and look at the thing at the bottom...

People need to take studies with a grain of salt.

...the irony

so we both agree it's faulty and questionable. So why are people swearing off women and getting upset over a faulty survey that tells half of the story.

I'm not "swearing off" women, I just think its funny that you can't handle criticism.

Women are LARGELY unimpressed in this day of social media and the drive to keep up with the joneses.

You're not as "pure" as you think you are.

Yeah. I wasn't trying to argue that. It's an observation. The observation is that You have these two events that change how we view relationships, idealized porn and idealized romance media. They both affect groups in different ways. There's no "so" it's just an observation lol.

NOW its an "observation"

So porn doesn't change expectations of relationships? Look porn isn't a bad thing. But to say it doesn't change anything in a person or what they want from others is a blind statement.

I never said that. I said the aspect of relationships it changes is not the one you proposed.

im talking about discussing what the sexes want from relationships. It seems like each group belittles or puts down what the other wants and it leads to misunderstanding and bytching. Look at this thread. Look at the study. Would it kill men and women to try to understand one another a little better?

You brought up porn in a thread that had NOTHING to do with it.

Typical deflection

Look. we are on the same side . I'm not denying that you or others have run into some materialistic women. All I'm saying is maybe if people would belittle what the other wants and quit making something that is supposed to enrich life into some power struggle, maybe it wouldn't seem so doom and gloom for you all. It just seems like people WANT life to be shyt, they want to be miserable, they want to believe all women are against them, and can't open their eyes to good people.

Nice defense tactic.

I'm simply saying that I have NO reason to believe the statistic reported that ONLY 20% of women are "disappointed" with their man's proposal.

 

[PimpHandStrong]

If you're already dumb enough to get married, you might as well go all out

It's a sad thing that clueless men are still falling into the marriage trap.

The institution of marriage is dead in the young heterosexual generation.

Say the institution of marriage is dead but complain about the decline and destruction of the black community bruhs

 

[Wild self]

Say the institution of marriage is dead but complain about the decline and destruction of the black community bruhs

marriage is dead to young heterosexuals. Thing is, young white folks are not having kids anymore and black folks are having babies out of wedlock because marriage is "boring" to many of us.

 

[concise]

so Durag Back was BlackBeiber?

 

[TrueAlphaMale]

HOH

fukk deez hoez

 

[PimpHandStrong]

marriage is dead to young heterosexuals. Thing is, young white folks are not having kids anymore and black folks are having babies out of wedlock because marriage is "boring" to many of us.

No idea how that relates to my statement but ok.

If marriage is so boring then how do you suggest building a community back up?

 

[Mr210]

20% seems low