1,000 Killed in Iraq in the month of July....

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You realize Shia wasn't even a sect, it was a tiny cult untill the 16th century right.

Right, only a small sect. Nothing large-scale. Except...oh wait.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Karbala

Sectarian violence and/or sectarian strife is violence inspired by sectarianism, that is, between different sects of one particular mode of ideology or religion within a nation/community. Religious segregation often plays a role in sectarian violence.

Yeah, I'd say you're wrong.

Yeah we totally use the Islamic Calender on the coli :rolleyes:

Kick rocks fakkit

Yeah, because it's totally inappropriate to use "first century of Islam" when discussing...Islam? Especially when the Battle of Karabala is dated as being in the year 61 AH of the Islamic calendar?

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Okay. Sure.
 

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Right, only a small sect. Nothing large-scale. Except...oh wait.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Karbala



Yeah, I'd say you're wrong.



Yeah, because it's totally inappropriate to use "first century of Islam" when discussing...Islam? Especially when the Battle of Karabala is dated as being in the year 61 AH of the Islamic calendar?

:usure:

Okay. Sure.

Why would you quote Karbala to a Muslim :snoop:

What were the 2 sects that were fighting? Sunni and Shia? really? That is NOT what happened at Karbala at all... Furthermore Shia's were a CULT LIKE sect up untill the Safavid Dynasty in Iran in the 16th century... please stop you are going to embarrass yourself further trying to debate with me...

Sectarian violence at this level has never existed in Islamic history, as opposed to Christian history. This is indisputable.
 

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Why would you quote Karbala to a Muslim :snoop:

What were the 2 sects that were fighting? Sunni and Shia? really? That is NOT what happened at Karbala at all... Furthermore Shia's were a CULT LIKE sect up untill the Safavid Dynasty in Iran in the 16th century... please stop you are going to embarrass yourself further trying to debate with me...


ORLY?

Idrisids (788 to 985 CE)

Uqaylids (990 to 1096 CE)

Buyids (934–1055 CE)

Ilkhanate (1256–1335)

Bahmanis (1347–1527 CE)

Fatimids (909–1171 CE)

The idea that Shi'ia started as a political revolt is based on Western dichotomies of religion and politics.
 

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ORLY?

Idrisids (788 to 985 CE)

Uqaylids (990 to 1096 CE)

Buyids (934–1055 CE)

Ilkhanate (1256–1335)

Bahmanis (1347–1527 CE)

Fatimids (909–1171 CE)

The idea that Shi'ia started as a political revolt is based on Western dichotomies of religion and politics.
Lol so this dude shows me the shia empires, including the Fatimids, in order to tell me that Shia was as prominent then as it is now. That is another fallacy from you. The Shia was a cult back then and so what a few empires leaders we're part of this cult. You know the kings and queens of Europe spoke French, was french a widely spoken language? The Assad dynasty is Alawi, are they indicative of the population of Syria?

Of course not.
 

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Lol so this dude shows me the shia empires, including the Fatimids, in order to tell me that Shia was as prominent then as it is now.

That is another fallacy from you. The Shia was a cult back then and so what a few empires leaders we're part of this cult. You know the kings and queens of Europe spoke French, was french a widely spoken language? The Assad dynasty is Alawi, are they indicative of the population of Syria?

Of course not.

Since when does not being the majority sect = cult? :mindblown:

They were openly converting people since (at the latest) the Mongol invasion.

They already had their own jurisprudence/theology by 800/183.

How in the hell are you defining "cult?" What isn't a cult to you?

Multiple dynasties, their own prayers, their own jurisprudence, their own theology.

Yeah, okay. Not a sect.
 

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Since when does not being the majority sect = cult? :mindblown:

They were openly converting people since (at the latest) the Mongol invasion.

They already had their own jurisprudence/theology by 800/183.

How in the hell are you defining "cult?" What isn't a cult to you?

Multiple dynasties, their own prayers, their own jurisprudence, their own theology.

Yeah, okay. Not a sect.

When were they ever the majority sect pre 16th century in any nation? Link that to me and I will ask for a ban from this sub-forum forever.

LIKE I SAID, sectarian violence in Islam has been RARE, and there has never been sectarian violence on this level, this is unprecedented in Islamic history.
 

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When were they ever the majority sect pre 16th century in any nation? Link that to me and I will ask for a ban from this sub-forum forever.

LIKE I SAID, sectarian violence in Islam has been RARE, and there has never been sectarian violence on this level, this is unprecedented in Islamic history.

So if you get to be the majority sect in a nation-state, you're not a cult?

Jews weren't the majority in any nation from the Roman explusion until the mid 20th century .

...so during all that time, Jews were a "cult?"

:mindblown: :mindblown:

What are you even arguing anymore?
 

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When were they ever the majority sect pre 16th century in any nation? Link that to me and I will ask for a ban from this sub-forum forever.
So if you get to be the majority sect in a nation-state, you're not a cult?

Jews weren't the majority in any nation until the mid 20th century from the Roman explusion.

...so during all that time, Jews were a "cult?"

:mindblown: :mindblown:

What are you even arguing anymore?

I said CULT-LIKE, you fukking dolt.

Why even talk to me if you're not going to read my entire posts.
 

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Lol so this dude shows me the shia empires, including the Fatimids, in order to tell me that Shia was as prominent then as it is now. That is another fallacy from you. The Shia was a cult back then and so what a few empires leaders we're part of this cult. You know the kings and queens of Europe spoke French, was french a widely spoken language? The Assad dynasty is Alawi, are they indicative of the population of Syria?

Of course not.

I said CULT-LIKE, you fukking dolt.

Why even talk to me if you're not going to read my entire posts.

You are officially dismissed.

You edited the other post to say cult-like.

In any case, you still haven't define what "cult-like" means besides "not being a majority in any nation."
 
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