Kelly Rowland Believes Being Dark Skin Has Held Her Back

[Giselle]

It's the truth. She's always been my favorite member since I was a child so I kept a close eye on her activities.
She's just as good, if not better than Beyonce but she can't meet the same success because the rest of the world's mind is polluted with thinking lighter is better. So fukking sad man.

It's not just her skin color, it's also b/c of the team she has behind her. She needs a better team. She needs songs that fit her voice. She needs beter stage performances. The low self esteem she had in dc and around the time she went solo held her back too. Her self esteem seems fine now though, most of the time. She released a new song not to long ago, and it wasn't good, but I have heard snippets of songs on her instagram, those were much better than the song she released.
She has a new show coming on BET soon. She's looking for the next (black) superstar girl group. I'll be watching.

 

[reserved_one]

Sucks for Kelly, but imagine how Michelle Williams feels though. Atleast Kelly had some success after the group split apart, even got movie roles. Michelle ain't get shyt lol

But Kelly is one of the sexiest black women alive...Just pure chocolate. I'm just glad she never bleached her skin

 

[Maximus]

i forgot dianna ross bleached her skin over the years
but I think she was always light use to tan because the pro black look was in with the fros
it was until the 1980's she looked light skin, then again that's around the same time michael kept getting lighter lighter

Diana Ross did not tan in the '60s and '70s, nor was she light-skinned in the '80s. Her skin has been the exact same color her whole life. And since when was it chic to look brown-skinned in the 1960's, which is when her career took off? What the hell are you talking about?

 

[Will Ross]

nikka that's brownskin.

brownskin is darkskin

 

[Sbp]

nikka that's brownskin.

Bruh brownskin is dark

 

[Master Teacher]

Diana Ross did not tan in the '60s and '70s, nor was she light-skinned in the '80s. Her skin has been the exact same color her whole life. And since when was it chic to look brown-skinned in the 1960's, which is when her career took off? What the hell are you talking about?

her solo album came out in early 70's also it was chic to look brown skin in the 60's as well

she is clealy tanned in this photoo



this is here in the wiz, she clearly has make up applied to make her look darker

she got lighter and lighter over the years

 

[yardman]

brownskin is darkskin

Brownskin is the midground between lightskin and darkskin.

Chris Brown is darkskin.

Nia Long is brownskin.

Kevin Hart is darkskin.

Nia and Kevin ain't the same color.

 

[Sbp]

I always thought Kelly and Bey were about even talent wise anyway neither was really that much better than the other. Kelly shouldve got her own manager once DC split Bey's daddy managing both of them at the same time was a conflict of interest.

 

[Sbp]

Brownskin is the midground between lightskin and darkskin.

Chris Brown is darkskin.

Nia Long is brownskin.

Kevin Hart is darkskin.

Nia and Kevin ain't the same color.

there's different shades of both dark and light skin

Edit:
the people with the medium brown skin tone fall under the dark category. Light is caramel and up

 

[Will Ross]

Brownskin is the midground between lightskin and darkskin.

Chris Brown is darkskin.

Nia Long is brownskin.

Kevin Hart is darkskin.

Nia and Kevin ain't the same color.

Both of them are dark skin and what is called Brownskin is very subjective.

 

[Maximus]

her solo album came out in early 70's also it was chic to look brown skin in the 60's as well

she is clealy tanned in this photoo



this is here in the wiz, she clearly has make up applied to make her look darker

she got lighter and lighter over the years

You are using doctored photos where she is in different camera lighting. Plus, she doesn't look dark at all on the first two photos you posted, that's her natural color.

When you look at photos of Diana Ross in the 1960s, you'll see that she's clearly brown-skinned. Her complexion in the 60s, 70s, and now is the exact same.

Diana in the 1970's. I want you to specifically point out how her skin got darker in the '70s. She was the exact same complexion that she's always been in my view.

Now, I want you to point out how she got lighter in 1980's. Again, she's the exact same complexion

This is a photo that you posted. She's clearly no lighter than she was in the '60s and '70s.

And today:

She clearly hasn't gotten lighter. I think you're confusing her skin complexion with camera lightning or doctored photos. She's the same complexion she's always been.

 

[Jimi Swagger]

You are using doctored photos where she is in different camera lighting. Plus, she doesn't look dark at all on the first two photos you posted, that's her natural color.

When you look at photos of Diana Ross in the 1960s, you'll see that she's clearly brown-skinned. Her complexion in the 60s, 70s, and now is the exact same.




She clearly hasn't gotten lighter. I think you're confusing her skin complexion with camera lightning or doctored photos. She's the same complexion she's always been.

Thanks for posting what I wanted to type out! Diana is very brown. She was also bony and bugged-eyed, which during the early 60s was not in with black men. She is nothing special to look at. Though a great singer, she had a weaker voice of the 3. She is also rumored to be a pure bytch and a diva, was something else in her younger days to achieve her goals. Flo and then Mary were the favorite amongst the brehs (kinda like Latvia and Latoya were for DC) and were down to Earth.

Diana could cross over as she had the glamour and personality. Model Twiggy and actress Katherine Hepbern emerged during that time (knocking out the image of the hourglass pin-ups and promoting more svelte mages of beauty). And she has nice singing voice but one of those "soulful voices for White people", kinda like if Usher tried to sing gospel That is how she crossed over. Flo clearly was the most talented and prettiest but not superstar quality. She was too real and she started getting fat.

 

[Giselle]

This is my main argument. I don't believe her complexion is the issue. Its her music. I hated Dilemma but her biggest solo outing was a hook. Her joint "Kisses Down Low" was alright but she needs consistent hits. I honestly think what fukked up her momentum was her first solo album. Beyonce went Pop, Michelle went Gospel, that left the pure R&B or even Neo Soul lane open for Kelly and plus that was the lane most DC fans were. She should've released a straight R&B album and even if it wasn't that good it would've catered to her base instead she went the Euro pop, dance synth route and that was a dagger. The fan base she made it for didn't really fukk with it and she alienated her core fans. Since then she's been trying to win them back but she fukked up her momentum.

Kelly's first album was r&b. Also, Kelly only had 2 months to record her album, beyonce had more time and they saved the better songs for her. Beyonce's first album was pop, r&b & soul. Kelly did do euro pop dance stuff until later on and that was successful over seas.

Beyonce was a thick yellowbone with a pretty face, and a quasi-Diana Ross voice, in other words a unicorn. Honestly Beyonce to me is the best pop singer in the current era, and probably the best since Mariah Carey. Adele is Adele in terms of records sales but I have to be biased cause there are hella bishes who can sing like her but don't get that push because of their color/background. Kelly Rowland is your run of the mill black songstress. In the music world she's a dime a dozen. If you got a million dollars you invest in Beyonce, she looks black and latina at the same time, plus has that exotic look that can crossover to white people. Kelly Rowland was never an Aretha Franklin/Whitney Houston/Mariah Carey type of singer, so she was never gonna do that kind of numbers on her own. She didn't win the genetic lottery physically nor vocally, she should be happy with her career, she could have easily been a Brandy

Diana Ross and beyonce's voices don't sound similar at all. Diana's voice is much weaker and plainer than Beyonce's. Beyonce isn't a pop singer, Rihanna is a pop singer and she's the best/mostknown in that genre. Beyonce is R&B and is the most popular in that genre.

Kelly can sing and sounds best singing Mariah Carey/Whitney type songs, but they always made her sing lower than what she sounded best singing. Kelly was the best singer when they first got signed, beyonce improved a lot over the years thanks to voice lessons.

Here are some video links

I've heard many older people say that. Why is that though?

I know that she couldn't sing very well back then.



:yeslawd:



I've heard this as well. They said that she went to their parties too, with an adult though. Where did you hear this from?



Beyonce couldn't go solo because couldn't compete with the famous black teens of that time who could sing and had the "it factor" (brandy, aaliyah, monica). Back then she couldn't sing very well and she didn't have the it factor. The group allowed her to have more time to work on her voice and it made her appear to have "it". She had "it" compared to all of the other girls in her group, not compared to the other people who were in the industry at the time. The group was a stepping stone ever since her dad became the manager, they really took it more seriously as a stepping stone instead of a team/group during the second album, especially after the og members left.

Kelly could have blown up after dilemma. Idk how true this is, but I've been told that beyonce was jealous of kelly during the dilemma time period. They also said that she was purposely advised wrong. I think her and Bey still had the same team at the time. Instead of making more songs like dilemma, they told her to put out slow more r&b songs like "stole".

Kelly was actually a better singer than back then. She had more tone and clairity in her voice than beyonce did. That's why when they auditioned for the record label, both her and kelly sang leads.

They also used to make kelly sing lower than her vocal range. Kelly is a soprano, and that is where she shines.

Just listen to their audition.



We had a whole thread on why kelly didn't blow up on lsa.

What did Beyonce get right that Kelly Rowland didnt in attaining global success after DC

Aaliyah had the "it" factor. Beyonce did not, which is another reason why she was in a group, along with the fact that her voice wasn't that great. Aaliyah's song styles made her voice seem much better than what it was, she wasn't terrible though. When she stood still and sang, she sounded fine. She couldn't really sing and dance at the same time, which is why her perfomances sounded the way they did. It's easier to sing loud while dancing that it is to sing light/soft and dance like aaliyah did. Breath control. That's why sometimes, she would sing her songs in a lower pitch/tone, singing louder is easier to do while dancing. Beyonce wasn't that great of a singer. Her vibrato was too heavy. She didn't start getting better until her first solo album, she had clearly improved after she did dream girls and again after the movie where she played etta james.

This vocal coach explains beyonce's voice and improvement in this video.




Kelly was singing lower than where her voice shines at in the video you posted, which is what they made her do quite frequently. She didn't sound that great in that video or on the song. She sounds better singing higher.


skip to 2:00 after the guy starts rapping

 

[Maximus]

Thanks for posting what I wanted to type out! Diana is very brown. She was also bony and bugged-eyed, which during the early 60s was not in with black men. She is nothing special to look at.

Really? I was under the assumption that she was a sex symbol back in the day. The bevy of men she went through during that time is rather extensive.

Though a great singer, she had a weaker voice of the 3. She is also rumored to be a pure bytch and a diva, was something else in her younger days to achieve her goals. Flo and then Mary were the favorite amongst the brehs (kinda like Latvia and Latoya were for DC) and were down to Earth.

I agree that Flo was easily the best singer out of the three, but I was never really impressed with Mary Wilson's vocals. They sound flat on some of the Supremes recordings. Although, in my opinion, Mary was the most attractive member of the group, and easily better looking than Diana.

And yeah, it's pretty much known that Diana is not the nicest person in the world, especially to people who work for her. She put the 'D' in Diva. World class bytch.

Diana could cross over as she had the glamour and personality. Model Twiggy and actress Katherine Hepbern emerged during that time (knocking out the image of the hourglass pin-ups and promoting more svelte mages of beauty). And she has nice singing voice but one of those "soulful voices for White people", kinda like if Usher tried to sing gospel That is how she crossed over. Flo clearly was the most talented and prettiest but not superstar quality. She was too real and she started getting fat.

I think much of Diana's appeal was attributed to the fact that she had an undeniable stage presence and charisma. In short, she had that 'it' factor that made her into a superstar. Florence had the much better voice, but she never commanded the stage the way Diana did.

Diana has a nice singing voice. She's not a belter like Aretha or Flo, but she could carry a tune. This performance from the early Supremes days was impressive to me:



Love her or hate her, you have to give her props for being able to accomplish what she did in music, stage performance, and film, especially considering the time period she was in(1960's-1980's). Prior to The Supremes, there was no such thing as a Black female superstar music group. They also pretty much pioneered the Black glamour girl image and Diana took it further as a solo artist. Black female acts like Beyonce and Rihanna are still benefitting from Diana's blueprint today.

 

[Master Teacher]

You are using doctored photos where she is in different camera lighting. Plus, she doesn't look dark at all on the first two photos you posted, that's her natural color.

When you look at photos of Diana Ross in the 1960s, you'll see that she's clearly brown-skinned. Her complexion in the 60s, 70s, and now is the exact same.

Diana in the 1970's. I want you to specifically point out how her skin got darker in the '70s. She was the exact same complexion that she's always been in my view.

Now, I want you to point out how she got lighter in 1980's. Again, she's the exact same complexion

This is a photo that you posted. She's clearly no lighter than she was in the '60s and '70s.

And today:

She clearly hasn't gotten lighter. I think you're confusing her skin complexion with camera lightning or doctored photos. She's the same complexion she's always been.

You are a fukking moron

what's different than my pics, nothing, they are from the same source you moron ain't no damn photoshop

also she is clearly MUCH DARKER IN THE FIRST PIC THAN ANY OF THE OTHERS PIC YOU POSTED AFTERWARDS

does even look like the same person

she is clearly much lighter in some pics than other and looks like Beyonce's complexion not dark chocolate like she was in the first pic

you have to be blind to not notice the difference