We had this debate before
The bear has size advantage, stamina, thick body fat, and weight.
I think lions can be the greatest fighting animal in general, but theres so much different categories, is he the fastest? No, the cheetah is...many animals have their own traits. Humans idolize lions because they remind humanity about themselves. War like, gets all the girls, dominate your enemies and turn to your brothers in times of distress. That pretty much sums up of how kingdoms and empires are about.
Nothing really special about bears, or other big cats being solitary, it just made them weaker and suspect to being killed off by competition like wolves, hyenas and other pack animals or smaller animals with more game and determination. Dont know how lions made the leap away from other big cats socially or physically different in appearance, the lion with his mane doesnt look like a big cat or something similar, he looks exclusive:
Pretty much covered in 2 feet thick battle armor, in the most specific areas where animals can be killed, the neck and belly. Its just as easy to be disemboweled as it is to have their necks lacerated. So it seems as if nature perfectly designed the lion to be protected in those areas. Theres no sense the lion should have fur all over his body like the bear, since it will only hinder his movements and insulate him so much that he over heats.
They don't betray each other, they defend eachother from other lions and other animals. They're probably the one animal humans admire most. They can be extremely ferocious or docile. They also rarely attack humans so theres not any antimosity like there are with the man eating Tigers, Polar bears etc.
They might be the only social cats period
Like outside of house cats... male lions start coalitions
I doubt that.
A bear can fight another bear for hours because a bear lacks any deadly blows or combat skills, two sumo wresters can push each other around for hours without any great damage done, but try and fight mike tyson for an hour, bet you cant even last a minute. The bears I showed fighting donkeys, boars, domestic pigs, mules, goats and wolves were killed in minutes, not hours, the lions I showed killed bears with one blow to the back or skull or one bite to the neck. It dident take them hours.
We already went over this, I showed 6 biologist who studied brown bears their entire lives, and documented over 300 bear kills, they stated bears didnt once throw a debilitating or forceful crushing blow with the paw and only grasped and bit the animals to death. Unless you can show me hundreds of accounts to match these:
The african lions striking strength
Then I dont know what paw strength you are talking about.
In an open area? lol The lions I showed killed bears in small to large cages, I would have thought the bear could have utilized his greater bulk to easily grab and pin down the lion, but he didnt, he was speed blitzed, over powered and out gunned instantly. A open environment would yield alot more maneuverability for the lion, as now he can fully evade, dodge and leap completely over the bear an bring him down.
Closed arena: Lion 7/10
Open environment: 9/10
And thats me being genuine. Theres too much feats of lions showing what they are capable of, your argument relys more so on pure imagination than actual feats.
How can anyone with rational thinking capabilities believe that in the 1850's, a healthy, full sized African Lion was imported to a then rural California, and made to fight a Grizzly Bear only to find that the Lion had thin skulls?http://io9.gizmodo.com/5804796/a-brief-history-of-bears-fighting-lions
"Modern lion skulls are thin enough that one decent blow from a bear will crush it, killing the lion
instantly."
"California settlers during the Gold Rush found this out the cruel way, as they organized fights between bears and various other animals as a rather sick way to pass the time, eventually shipping in African lions in a futile attempt to give the bears a challenge."
California Gold Rush Bear Fights
"They imported African lions to fight bears because none of the other animals were lasting very long. I would love to see someone try to explain that situation at customs today. The Gold Rushers thought that if there was one creature that could stand up to a bear, it must be the King of the Beasts. Unfortunately, after several attempts, they realized that lions' skulls are actually quite thin and before they could get anywhere near the bear, it would bop it on the head like a Whack-A-Mole and kill it."
