African lion vs Salt water crocodile

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Croc on land might as well be a great white shark on land fighting a lion...has no mobility and lateral quicks...Lion easily on land wins solo or in a group...

NOW in water and I don't mean those wading pools you geeks are showing in these pics but in deep river crossings where zebras move a male lion would get snatched up easily by a full sized crocodile....

Those male crocs that are 18 feet long weigh 5 times what a lion does...no chance...

Killer whale > Crocodile

The croc is not the master in the water, the lion is the King of the land carnivorians.
 

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Ball is in your court bro:
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/barbary-lion-vs-siberian-tiger.419272

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The croc is not the master in the water, the lion is the King of the land carnivorians.

Has nothing to do with mastery...a male lion crossing the serengeti during high season would be food...it's about where the fight takes place and to the lions credit they aren't stupid like wildebeest...
 

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Killer whale > Crocodile

The croc is not the master in the water, the lion is the King of the land carnivorians.

We're talking crocs and lions,da fukk shamu got to do with this...
 

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Has nothing to do with mastery...a male lion crossing the serengeti during high season would be food...it's about where the fight takes place and to the lions credit they aren't stupid like wildebeest...

Like I said, Killer whale > crocodile. In that case Blue whale > entire animal kingdom.

Its about fairness, and in shallow water I still slightly back a prime male lion against a large croc...5x bigger than lions? So you wanna take a over sized croc and use a average sized lion? Why not both big? I linked in some lions that hit the 800-900 lbs in the wild and several past 1,000 pounds in captivity, a croc doesnt get 5,000 lbs and up, more like 2,000-3,000 is their max. Your average big croc only has a few hundred pounds over a lion...I dont think thats enough with how much advantages the lion has in speed and power.
 

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Like I said, Killer whale > crocodile. In that case Blue whale > entire animal kingdom.

Its about fairness, and in shallow water I still slightly back a prime male lion against a large croc...5x bigger than lions? So you wanna take a over sized croc and use a average sized lion? Why not both big? I linked in some lions that hit the 800-900 lbs in the wild and several past 1,000 pounds in captivity, a croc doesnt get 5,000 lbs and up, more like 2,000-3,000 is their max. Your average big croc only has a few hundred pounds over a lion...I dont think thats enough with how much advantages the lion has in speed and power.

You seen those videos of zebras crossing the serengeti and get yolked up by the neck and drowned...same thing woukd happen to a lion if it crossed thru there...
 

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You seen those videos of zebras crossing the serengeti and get yolked up by the neck and drowned...same thing woukd happen to a lion if it crossed thru there...

A zebra doesnt have a set of 15+ claws that can tear through hippo and rhino hide, or a bite that can kill 2,000 - 4,000 lb elands and giraffes... a panic'd lion grabed by a croc in deep water can still rip up the croc bad enough to kill it, as shown theres videos of juvinile lions breaking free of crocs in deep water and getting away.
 

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A 2000 lb crocodile doesn't have an advantage in water over a 500 lb lion ?

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If a lion has to swim and cannot touch the bottom of the river..advantage is All in the crocs favor.

Only time you see a lion get away is in those shallow rivers where it can touch ground and use its legs..where it has to swim using its legs and paws and has no leverage it has no chance against a croc....

The reason you don't see videos of it cuz lions know to stay away from deep waters where's there crocs.They don't do those same migrations...
 

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A zebra doesnt have a set of 15+ claws that can tear through hippo and rhino hide, or a bite that can kill 2,000 - 4,000 lb elands and giraffes... a panic'd lion grabed by a croc in deep water can still rip up the croc bad enough to kill it, as shown theres videos of juvinile lions breaking free of crocs in deep water and getting away.

Those crocs were also juveniles b...look how small they are.

And lions cannot rip thru a hippo or rhino...hippos are thick and rhino is like armor...
 

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Bears are slept on, they have crazy power... I remember they tried to test a bears strength by putting a sandwitch under a 400 pound bolder and he moved it with it's left like nothing... In a one on one setting as in a cage I would favor a bear over anything tbh... But if the animals are out there doing there thing I would say the cats would kill bears more often cuz they are smarter and more efficient killers.
 

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A 2000 lb crocodile doesn't have an advantage in water over a 500 lb lion ?

:russ:

If a lion has to swim and cannot touch the bottom of the river..advantage is All in the crocs favor.

Only time you see a lion get away is in those shallow rivers where it can touch ground and use its legs..where it has to swim using its legs and paws and has no leverage it has no chance against a croc....

The reason you don't see videos of it cuz lions know to stay away from deep waters where's there crocs.They don't do those same migrations...
Bigger animals take Ls everyday b.
 

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A 2000 lb crocodile doesn't have an advantage in water over a 500 lb lion ?

:russ:

Sooo a croc averages some 2,000 lbs now? Thought these were record breakers:
Google

More like 1,000 lbs if your prime specimen, a 2,000 pounder is a freak sized croc, your prime sized lion at 600 lbs can take a thousand pounder croc, most sub-adult weights now days have lions at 600+ lbs:
http://www.thecoli.com/threads/barbary-lion-vs-siberian-tiger.419272/page-14


If a lion has to swim and cannot touch the bottom of the river..advantage is All in the crocs favor.

Only time you see a lion get away is in those shallow rivers where it can touch ground and use its legs..where it has to swim using its legs and paws and has no leverage it has no chance against a croc....

The reason you don't see videos of it cuz lions know to stay away from deep waters where's there crocs.They don't do those same migrations...

Again, doesnt really matter, only in the crocs element he can win, just like cobras one bites, killer whales in the water, lions on land, in their own element, they win, in a fair scenario of shallow water, a big lion has more advantages over a big croc. The croc only has one main weapon his bite, and maybe his tail...the lion has not only a powerful bite as well, he has claws and on top of that brute strength, he can smite in the skull of nearly any animal short of a hippo, rhino or elehant, they kill bears with one blow to the head and back, bulls by breaking their necks, and even a few accounts of lions smashing in the heads of crocs.

So I lean with the one with more advantages, not the one that relys only on one method, if he cant land that one shoter, hes as good as dead...even if he lands the one shot bite, theres photos of lions shrugging off a bite to the face...a croc can be killed at the head, and underside as well, by pinning him down, controling from the back, or getting at his throat, all which has been shown the lion already did to crocs. The croc is not even the big dog of the african rivers, that title belongs to the hippo.
 

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Bears are slept on, they have crazy power... I remember they tried to test a bears strength by putting a sandwitch under a 400 pound bolder and he moved it with it's left like nothing... In a one on one setting as in a cage I would favor a bear over anything tbh... But if the animals are out there doing there thing I would say the cats would kill bears more often cuz they are smarter and more efficient killers.

http://www.thecoli.com/threads/kodiak-bear-vs-african-lion.433196/

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The reason you don't see videos of it cuz lions know to stay away from deep waters where's there crocs.They don't do those same migrations...

How do you know? Some can call it fear, others call it intelligent, that doesnt mean they are incapable of doing so, jaguars still kill caimans in deep water, and so do river otters kill gators in deep water. So do pythons, hippos and many other animals, a lion is most likely to lose the confrontation in deep water, but doesnt mean its a 100%. Crocs always roll in groups in africa, sadly for crocs, so do lions, a male coalition from the paradise pride had 9 male lions, one lion was shown on video to scatter 50 crocs off a elephant kill, no sized croc is stupid enough to take on a male coalition, they will team up on the croc no matter what size, two male lions can bring down a 10,000 pound elephant.

Bring in your largest croc, and I'll raise you the paradise pride males.
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You must not have heard of the okavango lions, these lions are exclusive to the water:
Asiatic lion vs Bengal tiger


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