Zion Williamson Bust Watch

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

I damn sure didn't miss these long ass walls of text. Go take another hiatus. @Gil Scott-Heroin
Always complaining about the terrible quality of the posting yet you continue coming back to post. You're like a WWE fan who hates the product but won't stop watching.

Go take another hiatus?

And what? Just so nikkas can accuse me of disappearing when they think I'm wrong. Here I am taking on all y'all muh'fukkas about Zion, amidst all this hype around his recent performances - if I don't reply to a post, folks then say I'm hiding. I can't win either way - I post and defend my position, no matter win, lose, or draw, but if I ever take a break from this board (which I do multiple times a year, and every Summer, ever since 2012), folks perceive it to be disappearing because my "prediction was wrong".



And nikkas wonder why I complain about the state of this board. Lord have mercy.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Nah, LeBron doesn't have "touch" so to speak, we don't call scoop layups touch bro. Bron doesn't really use floaters or hook type shots in the paint. Zion has more touch than LeBron.

He been in the league 17 years and y'all still saying this dumb shyt?

First NBA game with a year less development than Zion:

0:35 first NBA play is nice touch on a running lob for the alley-oop




0:45 first NBA bucket is a soft pullup baseline jumper




1:34 drives into the lane, changes directions, floats in the air, switches hands, off the glass with the right




3:26 one-handed floater in the lane with the right from 12 feet out




3:34 stops in his tracks and changes directions to float in and drop a left-handed scoop




4:50 drives in and drops the fingerroll with the right




And we ain't even getting into the 4 midrange jumpers he hit or his 9 assists

If zion opens with a game even half of that y'all will be saying, "OMG so much more touch than young bron!"

 

[VegetasHairline]

Bu bu bu but he doesn't shoot enough jumpers.

 

[Morethan1]

Another 22 and 10

 

[Cereal_Bowl_Assassin]

He shot above 70% again in what was probably his worse game imo so far this preseason...he gave poertl that in and out dude was frozen, defenders are giving this guy space and he blows right past them...this is how guards used to feel when they had to play allen Iverson but ai didnt have the strength...

I'm laughing because none of this makes sense lol

 

[Trot LaRoc]

Yea 22/10 B b b but he didnt hit any 3s
B b b but its just preseason

 

[Cereal_Bowl_Assassin]

Zion haters right now waiting for their chance

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

This dude has a chance to be the greatest finisher around the rim ever. That’s a bold acclaimation that may come back to haunt me but I’ll take my chance

 

[Cereal_Bowl_Assassin]

What?

Not even the best prospect on his own team.

RJ >>>>>>>>

Say a 6'7 PF with a 6'10 wingspan without a jumpshot is a better prospect than a 6'8 PG

Unless he has another growth spurt, he's not gonna be able to play the 4 at league level. Everyone putting their faith in him are banking on him turning into a perimeter threat, which at this stage, isn't looking likely.

that is useless

Please tell me you didn't just mention Justise Winslow.



You just threw out of bunch of names that - don't play the 4 regularly, bigger than Zion, better defensive players, more skilled offensively outside the paint, and/or aren't great players. The point is, he's not going to play at the 4 full-time, in his current state, he just doesn't have the skillset/size. A # of the starting 4s now are around 6-9+, and space the floor, because that's the direction the league has been moving for a minute now; Zion is neither of those things.

This doesn't even make any sense. Shaq is Shaq because he was bigger than everyone. How''s Zion going to be a 6'7" Shaq in the league, where he'll be considerably shorter than nearly every single frontcourt?

So you're telling me if Shaq was the same weight, but 6'7" he would've been just as dominant?

And you're basing this on what exactly?

But that's the entire point, he can't be a smaller 6'7" Shaq, because Shaq was Shaq because he towered/powered over everyone. Zion isn't going to be able to do that in the league.

Zion's lack of height/wingspan is going to limit his ceiling in the league, because he won't be able to do the same shyt he's doing in college. The tweening is real.

For starters, he's NOT going to last long in the league if he stays at 285lbs (I highly doubt his trainers/prep team will let him enter his rookie season at that weight), so he's not going to have that same size advantage at the next level, like he does now. Second of all, his strength/athleticism won't mean shyt if he doesn't have the height/wingspan to finish over longer, smarter and experienced defenders. Tweeners with strength/athleticism as their main attributes have limited ceilings in the league. His success will be predicated on him developing an outside game, because he's not going to dominate at the NBA level with his current style of play.



Spoken like someone that doesn't know shyt about the league.

Can't wait to use the Shaq comparison for any power-based 6-6/6-7 prospects in the future.

I just don't see how he's going to guard 4's.

If Zion cant shoot or play on the perimeter (or guard it) then I see him as a more athletic Julius randle. That bully ball aint gonna work in the NBA...

He cant shoot, seems shorter than 6'7, doesnt have a long wingspan etc... That bully ball can work in college but in the NBA if you got a guy with long arms that gives him the jumpshot I dont see how he can dominate without a jumpshot...

I doubt he will be as effective at the pro level due to his size. Cant be a 3 since his shot is suspect. RJ is the more NBA ready prospect. You dudes stay fooled by these college players whose team are structured around them. Cats getting gassed because he beasting because he shytting on a bunch of army reserves/Canadians in exhibitions. Chill. It will take Zion a couple of years to get his bearings in the pros I think. Could be Barkley or Randle it depends. Shaq comparison is ludicrous

The kiss of death from OP

Zion about to be another Anthony Bennett now

Y’all DUDES really falling in love with another mans size and thickness :pause:

How can y’all not see RJ is more SKILLED (he has a pro ball playing father)



RJ is a better basketball player, and the NBA is built for perimeter players with his skill set.

RJ has played against grown men since he was a kid while Zion has ALWAYS been the biggest guy on the court....

Zion will have trouble even IF he stays in shape (which is a big if cause he can’t afford to gain ANY more weight)

We talking about practice

Again, you're not understanding the fact he'll need to have an outside shot to be successful in the league. I don't care how "efficient" he is when almost all his shots come inside the paint, he's not going to have that same level of luxury and efficiency once he hits the league, which is why an outside shot is going to be essential. It's not about proving himself, it's about preparing for the league. You can talk about practice all you want, but that doesn't mean shyt when it comes to a game situation. I don't know why you're having a hard time grasping something so simple.

Like I've told you before, this doesn't mean a cotdamn thing, because there's no greater step than from college-NBA. He's built like a grown man, up against kids, he's not going to have that same athleticism/size advantage at the NBA level.

It's not a "good point" because he hasn't displayed an outside shot. Save this "non athletes" shyt for the next man. Y'all refuse to "get" the fact a 6'6"-6'7" player needs a perimeter game to function in today's league.

It's NOT a solid point, because he hasn't displayed an outside shot. That is a FACT. He doesn't take those shots, because he can't make them. It's not a point of agreeing/disagreeing.

That's all well and good, but you can't get away with just athleticism/strength at his height in the league.



Get this keyboard militant shyt out of here. I'm simply speaking on how his game will translate to the league, by being realistic, and what he'll need to develop to be successful at the NBA level. We've already got a 6'11"/7-ft player [Simmons] who's limited in what he can do on the offensive end because he doesn't have a perimeter game, and Zion's at even more of a disadvantage because of his height/wingspan. I don't know why we need to keep going over simple shyt like this.

You’ll really think that a 19 year old is stronger than everyone in the nba

Zion is tough and I wish him all the success but better prospect than Lebron you’ll must of forgot how fast, quick and explosive young bron was

Grown man against kids. Won't be the same once he plays against other grown men.

Haters....

"You're gonna take 4 games during preseason as evidence"

"Regular season hasn't even started yet"

"Let him get to the playoffs first"

 

[DetroitEWarren]

My nikka Dobbs just stopped thru and I brought up Zion, that nikka wasn't impressed off the TV buzz


This is the GOAT college highlight reel. Like seriously, you can't put together a reel more impressive by anyone in college EVER


All that nikka could say was damn after I played this video

 

[Morethan1]

He needs a fukking jumper

 

[Cereal_Bowl_Assassin]

My nikka Dobbs just stopped thru and I brought up Zion, that nikka wasn't impressed off the TV buzz


This is the GOAT college highlight reel. Like seriously, you can't put together a reel more impressive by anyone in college EVER


All that nikka could say was damn after I played this video

The first minute of this video he was making pull ups...no zion isnt a shooter but his jump shot is good enough to keep the defense honest..this is why those stat guys can go kick rocks. Zion knows where he is most efficient at

That Kentucky game tho

 

[Cereal_Bowl_Assassin]

Edit: salute to @O.T.I.S. though ...going through old Zion threads and dude been a believer from jump

Respect brotha

 

[klientel]

@Gil Scott-Heroin

I’m changing my prediction

he’s gonna average 27+ ppg on 60+% shooting, all nba first team his rookie year

am I crazy?

 

[Gil Scott-Heroin]

@Gil Scott-Heroin

I’m changing my prediction

he’s gonna average 27+ ppg on 60+% shooting, all nba first team his rookie year

am I crazy?

Crazy is a relative term; yes, in reality, you're crazy for believing that, but in terms of craziness as it relates to the posts in this thread, I'd say you fit right in.