Zimbabwe Succession Watch: Mnangagwa is the second president of the Republic

[Bawon Samedi]

Zimbabwe is lit right now.

 

[Trajan]

White people sitting in the cut like

UK Prime Minister Theresa May said Mr Mugabe's resignation "provides Zimbabwe with an opportunity to forge a new path free of the oppression that characterised his rule".

She said that former colonial power Britain, "as Zimbabwe's oldest friend", will do all it can to support free and fair elections and the rebuilding of the Zimbabwean economy.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

Mugabe’s Downfall Could Be Good Business for China
Mugabe’s Downfall Could Be Good Business for China

China's deep ties to Zimbabwe could grow after Mugabe era
China's deep ties to Zimbabwe could grow after Mugabe era


Some may see this as either a good or bad thing. Whatever the case maybe, Emmerson views on economics(even if he may be as ruthless as Mugabe in terms of human rights)seems to differ from Mugabe's.

@Northern Son @DrBanneker @The Odum of Ala Igbo @Poitier @Dip @Trajan @Skooby @EastCoastNaga @Nemesis @Cynic

China HAS invested in Zimbabwe's infrastructure i.e their hospital, roads, etc. Just to point that out there but we'll see. Hopefully Zimbabwe does not get swallowed up.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Mugabe’s Downfall Could Be Good Business for China
Mugabe’s Downfall Could Be Good Business for China

China's deep ties to Zimbabwe could grow after Mugabe era
China's deep ties to Zimbabwe could grow after Mugabe era


Some may see this as either a good or bad thing. Whatever the case maybe, Emmerson views on economics(even if he may be as ruthless as Mugabe in terms of human rights)seems to differ from Mugabe's.

@Northern Son @DrBanneker @The Odum of Ala Igbo @Poitier @Dip @Trajan @Skooby @EastCoastNaga @Nemesis @Cynic

China HAS invested in Zimbabwe's infrastructure i.e their hospital, roads, etc. Just to point that out there but we'll see. Hopefully Zimbabwe does not get swallowed up.

China okayed the coup. Zim Army generals visiting Beijing 2 weeks ago

 

[Bawon Samedi]

China okayed the coup. Zim Army generals visiting Beijing 2 weeks ago

The Generals were probably like, "yeah we're getting rid of Mugabe. So are we still getting investments?"

Chinese:

 

[Cynic]

White people sitting in the cut like

Time to swindle some western investors then bounce that money to the Caymans



















Just kidding brehs...

 

[Cynic]

China okayed the coup. Zim Army generals visiting Beijing 2 weeks ago

Doubt it. General was sent away so Mugabe could fire Mwanagwa with ease.

This bloodless transition was some chess sh!t from all sides....

Other african countries would have turned into a warzone by now

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Doubt it. General was sent away so Mugabe could fire Mwanagwa with ease.

This bloodless transition was some chess sh!t from all sides....

Other african countries would have turned into a warzone by now

Check out this report:
The crocodile snaps back | Article | Africa Confidential

This military move against Zimbabwe had tacit support from China and South Africa.

Zimbabwe's week of upheaval
• Sunday, 5 November: Zimbabwe Defence Forces Commander General Constantino Chiwengaleaves for a meeting with China's Defence Minister Chang Wanquan in Beijing. The meeting was discreetly and hastily arranged by Chiwenga to win Beijing's support for a 'smart takeover of power', we hear. Chiwenga's message was that a planned purge of the armed forces by the G40 faction of the ruling party, which has supported Grace Mugabe, would destabilise the country and threaten China's interests. At a rally in Bulawayo, President Robert Mugabe, apparently unaware of the purpose of Chiwenga's mission, rebukes Vice-President Emmerson Mnangagwa for stirring division in the ruling Zimbabwe African National Union-Patriotic Front (ZANU-PF).

Grace Mugabe calls Vice-President Emmerson Mnangagwa a 'coup plotter' and a 'coward'.

• Monday, 6 November: President Mugabe sends Mnangagwa a letter dismissing him as Vice-President. Information Minister Simon Khaya Moyo then announces that Mnangagwa had shown 'traits of disloyalty, disrespect and unreliability'.

• Tuesday, 7 November: Mugabe widens the purge and sacks three ministers and Mnangagwa allies: Cyber-Security Minister Patrick Chinamasa, Environment Minister Oppah Muchinguri and Minister of State in the President's Office, Chris Mushohwe.

Mnangagwa, helped by his son David, crosses the Zimbabwe-Mozambique border, with South Africa his eventual destination.

• Wednesday, 8 November: Mnangagwa releases a strongly-worded critique of the clique around Mugabe, blaming it for economic deterioration and accusing Mugabe's family of treating ZANU-PF as their personal property.

• Thursday, 9 November: Harare International Airport is renamed Robert Mugabe International Airport and is earmarked for a US$153 million upgrade financed by the Export-Import Bank of China.

Finance Minister Ignatius Chombo announces that Zimbabwe's budget deficit is to hit US$1.82 billion or 11.2% of gross domestic product this year.

• Sunday, 12 November: General Chiwenga returns to Zimbabwe via South Africa from his trip to Beijing. Having heard that Police Commissioner Augustine Chihuri had orders to arrest him, he arranges to be met by a large group of soldiers. Over the past week he had been resisting pressure from Mugabe to resign as ZDF Commander.

• Monday, 13 November: Calling a press conference in Harare, Chiwenga, filmed and distributed on YouTube and social media, reads a statement blaming the failing economy on factionalism in ZANU-PF over the past five years, and arguing that the ruling party's problems were caused by 'elements who did not struggle with us in the War of Liberation' (i.e. the G40 faction). He also demanded that ZANU-PF stop purging liberation heroes.

On the dais with Chiwenga are 90 top military chiefs, but not Chihuri. Chiwenga's message is published on the website of the state newspaper, The Herald, but immediately taken down. It is not given any coverage on the state news broadcasts that night, nor is it printed in The Herald the following morning.

• Tuesday, 14 November: Chairman of the ZANU-PF Youth League, Kudzanai Chipanga, releases a statement blaming the military for the 'missing 15 billion' (a trope used by activists to call the Mugabe government to account over missing diamond revenue), declaring that the youth will defend the revolution. Chipanga's statement is broadcast on the state media and broadcasting services.

ZANU-PF Secretary for Information Simon Khaya Moyo, said the government wants to reaffirm 'the primacy of politics over the gun'. At 10.00, our correspondent sees soldiers driving into Harare to meet others already in the centre of the city. Other reports emerge of armoured cars and tanks heading towards the base of the Presidential Guard in Tynwald, some 15 kilometres out of Harare.

Reports of troop movements into Harare begin to filter across different social media platforms, illustrated by video footage, some of questionable vintage. There are also claims that Mugabe's residence has been surrounded by tanks. In fact, there were no tanks outside Mugabe's house and there were few disruptions to traffic across Harare.

After the Zimbabwe Broadcasting Corporation's 20.00 bulletin, where journalists refuse to broadcast Chiwenga's statement from the previous day, a group of military officers break into the compound. Staff and journalists are assaulted and a military guard is put on the gate. The 23.00news bulletin is not broadcast.

• Wednesday, 15 November: At around 02.00, people in Harare report sounds of explosions and gunfire in the capital, but they may have been mistaken as an exceptionally heavy thunderstorm was breaking at the time. Some appear to have thought the thunderclaps were signs of military clashes in the city.

04.00: General Sibusiso Moyo reads a statement on ZBC, reporting that President Mugabe and his family are safe: 'We are only targeting criminals around him [Mugabe] who are committing crimes that are causing social and economic suffering in the country… we urge you to remain calm and limit unnecessary movement.' He promises to protect civil servants from purges that the government was apparently planning and emphasises that this is 'not a military take-over'. He adds, 'What the Zimbabwe Defence Forces is actually doing is to pacify a degenerating political, social and economic situation in our country, which if not addressed may result in a violent conflict.'

Pointedly, the statement warned 'the other security forces', which is taken to mean elements in the Central Intelligence Organisation and recalcitrant police officers, 'We urge you to cooperate for the good of our country. Let it be clear that we intend to address the human security threats in our country. Therefore, any provocation will be met with an appropriate response.'

For much of the morning, ZBC replayed a loop of Chiwenga's statement, followed by Gen. Moyo's statement and then old clips of Liberation Struggle songs.

By 05.30 roads into the Central Business District of the city are blocked by tanks and soldiers in full combat uniform. The rain has stopped, but a thick mist descends on the capital. Military forces set up roadblocks outside the airport and on all the main roads into town, where they check IDs and vehicles. Buses, taxis and private vehicles are driving across Harare without much interference.

Initially, the military's focus of the action was on the anti-Mnangagwa or G40 faction. ZANU-PF Youth League leader Chipanga was arrested by the military during the night.

Finance Minister Chombo's house was raided early in the day. Images on social media showed his gate battered down and there were unconfirmed reports of a gunfight in which one of his bodyguards may have been killed. G40 lynchpins such as Higher Education Minister Jonathan Moyo and Local Government Minister Saviour Kasukuwere were said to be under arrest late on
15 November but they both appear on a wanted list issued by the military.

 

[Cynic]

Check out this report:
The crocodile snaps back | Article | Africa Confidential

This military move against Zimbabwe had tacit support from China and South Africa.

Zuma and South Africa have always been pro-Mugabe.

Article didn't reference any Chinese involvement ...

Could you imagine a scenario like this with Buhari and The army in Nigeria

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Zuma and South Africa have always been pro-Mugabe.

Article didn't reference any Chinese involvement ...

Could you imagine a scenario like this with Buhari and The army in Nigeria

Zuma/Guptas are pro-money. They have no long term alliances. Just interests.

Article mentioned Chinese involvement. Did you read the entire page?

Nigeria can't be ruled outright by the military again. The country will face 2-3 rebellions immediately.

 

[Bawon Samedi]

I doubt the Chinese had a serious role. It was more like the Generals just letting the Chinese know and asking if they are still interested in investing with Mugabe gone.

 

[Cynic]

Zuma/Guptas are pro-money. They have no long term alliances. Just interests.

Article mentioned Chinese involvement. Did you read the entire page?

Nigeria can't be ruled outright by the military again. The country will face 2-3 rebellions immediately.

Zuma is ANC so was Mbeki before him and Mandela before that. If that isn't a long term alliance
then what is. They also threatened to send their own military should a Zim coup occur.

The pre-existing tension between G40 and war veterans pre-date the China trip and that
article is speculative at best. Chiwenga was headed to China anyway and it opened an
opportunity to cull Mwanagwa and his supporters.

China never gets involves in domestic sh!t and has exposed this western propaganda for what it is


Every Naija ruler has been an Army General... it's only a matter of time

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

Zuma is ANC so was Mbeki before him and Mandela before that. If that isn't a long term alliance
then what is. They also threatened to send their own military should a Zim coup occur.

The pre-existing tension between G40 and war veterans pre-date the China trip and that
article is speculative at best. Chiwenga was headed to China anyway and it opened an
opportunity to cull Mwanagwa and his supporters.

China never gets involves in domestic sh!t and has exposed this western propaganda for what it is


Every Naija ruler has been an Army General... it's only a matter of time

re: Zuma =/= Mandela and the like. That's why he betrayed Gadaffi.

re: China - China has gotten involved on the African continent many times (see Sudan/South Sudan). This will continue to increase.

re: Nigeria - Zik and Tafawa Balewa were not Generals. Neither was Jonathan. Neither was Shehu Shagari. I hope you're not Nigerian. Chai!

Nigeria's Army can't act as a 'saviour' for a few reasons:
- It's been discredited because of its brutality to civilians in parts of the country (Igboland, Niger Delta, Shi'ites, Borno, Middle Belt vis a vis Fulani herdsmen)
- It's not an effective fighting force (see Niger Delta, Lake Chad region
- The Army under Burutai doesn't have enough men to contain rebellions in Niger Delta, Lake Chad, Igboland, Yorubaland if a coup did occur.

 

[The Odum of Ala Igbo]

I doubt the Chinese had a serious role. It was more like the Generals just letting the Chinese know and asking if they are still interested in investing with Mugabe gone.

Still considered Chinese involvement. It also demonstrates that on the African continent, you might have to go to Beijing to gain latitude to perform takeover actions. Similar to how people went to Washington or Moscow during the Cold War.

 

[Cynic]

re: Zuma =/= Mandela and the like. That's why he betrayed Gadaffi.

re: China - China has gotten involved on the African continent many times (see Sudan/South Sudan). This will continue to increase.

re: Nigeria - Zik and Tafawa Balewa were not Generals. Neither was Jonathan. Neither was Shehu Shagari. I hope you're not Nigerian. Chai!

Nigeria's Army can't act as a 'saviour' for a few reasons:
- It's been discredited because of its brutality to civilians in parts of the country (Igboland, Niger Delta, Shi'ites, Borno, Middle Belt vis a vis Fulani herdsmen)
- It's not an effective fighting force (see Niger Delta, Lake Chad region
- The Army under Burutai doesn't have enough men to contain rebellions in Niger Delta, Lake Chad, Igboland, Yorubaland if a coup did occur.

re:Zuma He ain't betray Mugabe, he warned Chiwenga of SA intervention though.

re:China . They denied it officially. Why would China risk instability and backlash from
the AU and SA? This is all Chiwenga.

re: Nigeria Lol i'm not but considering the history there... you know