It was the whites who did the nose jobs. Black statues found as far away as Greece have the same desecration, and the Arab dominion did not go into Greece.
"Zahi Hawass has put to bed Afrocentric claims that the Ancient Egyptians were black Africans"
It was the whites who did the nose jobs. Black statues found as far away as Greece have the same desecration, and the Arab dominion did not go into Greece.
Did I just read someone talking about Noahs sons?
And this is the person I am supposed to listen to about historical facts?
This would be like quoting fukcing STAR WARS during a discussion about space travel
What am I missing? Soon as anything from the Bible or other book of poetry comes out of his mouth, isn't that a total DQ as far as science is concerned?
And this is the person I am supposed to listen to about historical facts?
This would be like quoting fukcing STAR WARS during a discussion about space travel
What am I missing? Soon as anything from the Bible or other book of poetry comes out of his mouth, isn't that a total DQ as far as science is concerned?
Diondon
Thanks to the lawyers uh, I marbled the foyer
The more ruins they unearth,
they will see black faces on the walls
fukk this cac
they will see black faces on the walls
fukk this cac
Why even post his dumb lies
My problem with this common sentiment is that there was nobody in West Africa for the most part, but Pygmies until around 2,000 - 500 BC.
African Origins of Civilization
"Oral traditions of the ruling Abrade (Aduana) Clan state that Akans originated from ancient Ghana. The Akan people migrated from the north through Egypt and settled in Nubia (Sudan). Around 500 AD (5th century), due to the pressure exerted on Nubia by the Axumite kingdom of Ethiopia, Nubia was scattered and the Akan people moved west and established small trading kingdoms. These kingdoms grew and around 750 AD the Ghana Empire was formed. The Empire lasted from 750 AD to 1200 AD and collapsed as a result of the introduction of Islam in Western Sudan, due to the zeal of the Muslims to impose their religion, their ancestors eventually left for Kong (i.e. present-day Ivory Coast). From Kong, they moved to Wam and then to Dormaa (both located in present-day Brong-Ahafo region). The movement from Kong was necessitated by the desire of the people to find suitable savannah conditions since they were not used to forest life. Around the 14th century, they moved from Dormaa South Eastwards to Twifo-Heman North West Cape Coast. This move was commercially motivated."
Here are more sources supporting what has been written about the Akan's Hapi Valley Origins.
www.academia.edu/3876359/AKAN_-_The_People_of_Ancient_Khanit_Akan_Land_-_Ancient_Nubia_Sudan_
unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000042627
The Cultural Impact of Resettlement into "Sub Saharan Africa"
One of the games that genetically recessive Devils love playing is pretending to not know the racial wars that occurred throughout ancient Northeastern Africa (including the so called "Middle East") and the subsequent events that followed. These events include the constant migrations from the Northeast African homeland into interior regions of Africa including Southern, Western, East and Central Africa. As displayed in the early part of the previous section, the denial of our earlier genesis in Northeastern Africa is the weapon used by Western scholars to prop up their false narrative of our-story. The call our people by contemporary locations rather than our actual names (i.e "West African") to set this narrative in stone, and from that will make entire fallacies on genetic origins as it pertains to that field of research.
UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE FULL OF SH!T!
Migration from the Hapi Valley in the 6th century B.C.E.
Original homeland of the Bantu up to 1500 A.D
Dark shading: Possible ultimate origin of the Bantu
Cross shading: Area of Bantu expansion into Kemet
Bantu Migration Routes from Cush and the Island of Meroe
From Alfred M M'Imanyara's "Restatement of the Bantu Migration".
There were many other civilizations that had been established since our migration from the Hapi Valley around the 6th century B.C.E. The first civilization to be noted to have arisen around this period was the Nok empire in modern day Nigeria. Though the empire is dated to around the mid 2nd millennium BC, it took off technology after the 6th millennium BC with the contributions of those who had recently migrated into the region via Nubia-Kemet.
Nok Civilization (Modern Day Nigeria)
1,500 BC - 500 AD
"The Nok culture of northern Nigeria, a civilization that existed from approximately 500 B.C.E to about 500 C.E., is principally known for its terracotta figures. Relatively little is known about the purpose of these figures or the civilization that created such extraordinary sculptural representations of its people...This work depicts a person of high status wearing elaborate beaded jewelry, and with a crooked baton on his right arm and a hinged flail on the left. These are symbols of authority also found in ancient Egyptian depictions of the Pharaohs and the god Osiris. The Nok culture existed during the late Pharonic period and intra-African trading could have spread Kemetic influences" - Met Museum
link
The problem with the latter part of the explanation given above as to how Kemetic influence wound up in West Africa is impossible. There were little to no people in tropical West Africa to trade with prior to the Late period. In fact much of West Africa was uninhabitable swamp land all the way up until around 3-2 B.C.E.. Even after that climatic phase there is still no evidence of large settlements of Niger-Congo speakers in tropical West Africa (the Twa were there however) until around the Kemetic Late Period. This period again is when great biological change is attested by most anthropologist to have occurred in ancient Kemet according to consistent anthropological studies.
Iron Production Diffused from the Hapi Valley into Interior Africa
Here are more sources supporting what has been written about the Akan's Hapi Valley Origins.
www.academia.edu/3876359/AKAN_-_The_People_of_Ancient_Khanit_Akan_Land_-_Ancient_Nubia_Sudan_
unesdoc.unesco.org/ark:/48223/pf0000042627
The Cultural Impact of Resettlement into "Sub Saharan Africa"
One of the games that genetically recessive Devils love playing is pretending to not know the racial wars that occurred throughout ancient Northeastern Africa (including the so called "Middle East") and the subsequent events that followed. These events include the constant migrations from the Northeast African homeland into interior regions of Africa including Southern, Western, East and Central Africa. As displayed in the early part of the previous section, the denial of our earlier genesis in Northeastern Africa is the weapon used by Western scholars to prop up their false narrative of our-story. The call our people by contemporary locations rather than our actual names (i.e "West African") to set this narrative in stone, and from that will make entire fallacies on genetic origins as it pertains to that field of research.
UNDERSTAND THAT THEY ARE FULL OF SH!T!
Migration from the Hapi Valley in the 6th century B.C.E.
Original homeland of the Bantu up to 1500 A.D
Dark shading: Possible ultimate origin of the Bantu
Cross shading: Area of Bantu expansion into Kemet
Bantu Migration Routes from Cush and the Island of Meroe
From Alfred M M'Imanyara's "Restatement of the Bantu Migration".
There were many other civilizations that had been established since our migration from the Hapi Valley around the 6th century B.C.E. The first civilization to be noted to have arisen around this period was the Nok empire in modern day Nigeria. Though the empire is dated to around the mid 2nd millennium BC, it took off technology after the 6th millennium BC with the contributions of those who had recently migrated into the region via Nubia-Kemet.
Nok Civilization (Modern Day Nigeria)
1,500 BC - 500 AD
"The Nok culture of northern Nigeria, a civilization that existed from approximately 500 B.C.E to about 500 C.E., is principally known for its terracotta figures. Relatively little is known about the purpose of these figures or the civilization that created such extraordinary sculptural representations of its people...This work depicts a person of high status wearing elaborate beaded jewelry, and with a crooked baton on his right arm and a hinged flail on the left. These are symbols of authority also found in ancient Egyptian depictions of the Pharaohs and the god Osiris. The Nok culture existed during the late Pharonic period and intra-African trading could have spread Kemetic influences" - Met Museum
link
The problem with the latter part of the explanation given above as to how Kemetic influence wound up in West Africa is impossible. There were little to no people in tropical West Africa to trade with prior to the Late period. In fact much of West Africa was uninhabitable swamp land all the way up until around 3-2 B.C.E.. Even after that climatic phase there is still no evidence of large settlements of Niger-Congo speakers in tropical West Africa (the Twa were there however) until around the Kemetic Late Period. This period again is when great biological change is attested by most anthropologist to have occurred in ancient Kemet according to consistent anthropological studies.
Iron Production Diffused from the Hapi Valley into Interior Africa
The production of iron was also a huge technological trait created in Africa (Oboui is the oldest known production found in what is now the Central Republic of Africa) that characterized Hapi Valley civilization (particularly the later Kush), and the spreading of Niger-Congo speakers. It was around this same time as the Nubian capital city Napata was switch to Meroe that a large migration from Kemet into various regions of Sub Saharan Africa occurred, which was around the 6th century B.C.E. This was also around the time that iron smelting first entered West Africa (Nok civilization and a Cameroonian site slightly south of it). All of our people did not leave the Hapi Valley during the 6th century B.C.E.. Some remained in Mereo until it was conquered by Axumite Empire. A few nation states like the Wolof of Senegal left Egypt at much later dates, such as when the Arabs invaded in 639 C.E.
The Nok empire was founded around 1,500 and 1,000 BCE. The appearance of this civilization's foundation prior to the 6th century BCE is likely due to earlier migrations from the Hapi Valley triggered by the constant wars (the first World War- a race war) brought on by the Tamahu. The disappearance of the "Negroid" ;element of the ancient Egyptian Late Period population noted in the study cited above (Goode 2009) is explained by the emergence of that same "Negroid" element in South, Central and West Africa. The Cushytic Africans became the dominant face of the region after that point. The Nigerian Nok civilization springs up during that time. The introduction of iron which was Hapi Valley technology was seen in the Nok empire during 6th century BCE. Not only iron ties the Nok to the Hapi Valley, but the Nok also retained ancient Hapi Valley beliefs and principles in spirituality as demonstrated with the following artwork;
The Nok empire was founded around 1,500 and 1,000 BCE. The appearance of this civilization's foundation prior to the 6th century BCE is likely due to earlier migrations from the Hapi Valley triggered by the constant wars (the first World War- a race war) brought on by the Tamahu. The disappearance of the "Negroid" ;element of the ancient Egyptian Late Period population noted in the study cited above (Goode 2009) is explained by the emergence of that same "Negroid" element in South, Central and West Africa. The Cushytic Africans became the dominant face of the region after that point. The Nigerian Nok civilization springs up during that time. The introduction of iron which was Hapi Valley technology was seen in the Nok empire during 6th century BCE. Not only iron ties the Nok to the Hapi Valley, but the Nok also retained ancient Hapi Valley beliefs and principles in spirituality as demonstrated with the following artwork;
note the crock attached to the Nok's "Seated Dignitary"'s arm
Ausar's Crock and Flail
More Commonalities between modern "Sub Saharan Africans" and ancient Hapi Valley cultures
While on the topic of Nigeria, other states with a direct link to Kemet did in fact arise. The Yoruba are another group of Nigerians who have an origin in Northeastern African civilization, and specifically Kemet. The story of the origins and migration of the Yoruba patriarch Oduduwa is a testament to the entire thesis of this piece.
Mummy of the Obi Ijeh of Idumuoghu,Ibusa, Nigeria From Oscar Pfouma "Histoire culturelle de l'Afrique Noire":
On the top, is an ancient Egyptian "paddle" doll, courtesy of the British Museum; in the middle, we have Ashanti examples of the fertility doll, and third image is yet another example of fertility dolls common amongst the Akan.
Fertility dolls are a fairly common theme in Africa, from the Akan speaking groups of Ghana to the Donguena, Evale, Hakawama, Himba, Humbe, Kwanyama, Mukubal, Mwila, Ndimba, Ngambwe, Ovambo and Zemba people of the semi-desert areas of Angola for example, and it appear that the ancient Egyptians were no different in this aspect.
A little trivia on the Egyptian "paddle doll"...
Such dolls are usually found in Upper Egypt and Nubia. When complete they have faces and hair of clay. Hair may also be of faience beads. This one is missing its hair. A number have been found dating to the second half of the 11th Dynasty from tombs in the neighbourhood of Deir el Bahri and are common at Thebes. However, at least two have been found in earlier tombs at Beni Hasan and one at Rifeh. Another was found beneath the Ramesseum at Thebes dating to the 13th Dynasty (Bourriau 1988, 126-127). Most are of 11th Dynasty to Middle Kingdom.
The marks on the body are thought to be tattoos or scarification and the end of the paddle, it has been suggested is an exaggerated pubic area. That such dolls are found mainly in female graves has led Egyptologists to suggest that these are fertility figurines put in graves to ensure fertility in the afterlife. - Courtesy of SWANSEA UNIVERSITY.
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Ozymandeas
Veteran
I won’t go that far to say all Middle Eastern people were black. That’s erasing them which isn’t valid either. I will just say history is much more black than we think. The Scorpion King movie gets it right. Pretty much all the soldiers in the movie were either Black or ME/Arab. You would’ve had those two groups + biracials from those groups mixing + a few odd ball Mediterranean Europeans.
"All Semites (Arabs and Jews)…are mixed breeds of Blacks and Whites; the Arab race cannot be conceived as anything but a mixture of Blacks and Whites; the entire Arab people, including the Prophet, are mixed with Negro blood. - C.A. Diop
"Middle East" used to be Africa until Britain name it the "Middle East" a few centuries ago. The original inhabitants of the Middle East were various different types of Black African migrants (including Dravidians/Indians who also came from Africa), and they dominated the region of the Levant up until the end of Bronze Age when the white "sea peoples" overran every civilization in the region following a cataclysmic event. This created a mixed people that have been there ever since. To this day the entire region still has heavy numbers of sickle cell;
How can a non white person be a pharaoh/God on Earth when they don't even have functioning pineal glands lol?
The Fake white Pharaohs were the post dynastic Greeks Romans
The scorpion King did a horrible job at representing ancient Kemet.
Watch your mouth lol. Arabs did not enter Egypt until 1,000 years after the fall of Dynastic Kemetic culture. Middle Eastern people at the time were still predominantly Black, but the non blacks were encroaching on the nearby areas which lead to all of the wars during that time.
"All Semites (Arabs and Jews)…are mixed breeds of Blacks and Whites; the Arab race cannot be conceived as anything but a mixture of Blacks and Whites; the entire Arab people, including the Prophet, are mixed with Negro blood. - C.A. Diop"Middle East" used to be Africa until Britain name it the "Middle East" a few centuries ago. The original inhabitants of the Middle East were various different types of Black African migrants (including Dravidians/Indians who also came from Africa), and they dominated the region of the Levant up until the end of Bronze Age when the white "sea peoples" overran every civilization in the region following a cataclysmic event. This created a mixed people that have been there ever since. To this day the entire region still has heavy numbers of sickle cell;
How can a non white person be a pharaoh/God on Earth when they don't even have functioning pineal glands lol?
The Fake white Pharaohs were the post dynastic Greeks Romans
The scorpion King did a horrible job at representing ancient Kemet.
Watch your mouth lol. Arabs did not enter Egypt until 1,000 years after the fall of Dynastic Kemetic culture. Middle Eastern people at the time were still predominantly Black, but the non blacks were encroaching on the nearby areas which lead to all of the wars during that time.
Thank you!
Ozymandeas
Veteran
"All Semites (Arabs and Jews)…are mixed breeds of Blacks and Whites; the Arab race cannot be conceived as anything but a mixture of Blacks and Whites; the entire Arab people, including the Prophet, are mixed with Negro blood. - C.A. Diop"Middle East" used to be Africa until Britain name it the "Middle East" a few centuries ago. The original inhabitants of the Middle East were various different types of Black African migrants (including Dravidians/Indians who also came from Africa), and they dominated the region of the Levant up until the end of Bronze Age when the white "sea peoples" overran every civilization in the region following a cataclysmic event. This created a mixed people that have been there ever since. To this day the entire region still has heavy numbers of sickle cell;
How can a non white person be a pharaoh/God on Earth when they don't even have functioning pineal glands lol?
The Fake white Pharaohs were the post dynastic Greeks Romans
The scorpion King did a horrible job at representing ancient Kemet.
Watch your mouth lol. Arabs did not enter Egypt until 1,000 years after the fall of Dynastic Kemetic culture. Middle Eastern people at the time were still predominantly Black, but the non blacks were encroaching on the nearby areas which lead to all of the wars during that time.
This is pseudoscience. Y’all always overshoot instead of trying to have a real conversation. Pineal glands? Really bruh?
It’s a really silly arguement that’s not worth having.
You can literally go to Sudan(indisputablely black) and see the ancient progression from mud triangles to step pyramids, to incomplete pyramids, to full pyramids before you even enter Egypt. If these people were anything but black Africans, then you would see the same thing (but dated earlier) in Europe, Western Asia, or that portion of Libya that white people used to occupy back in the day. No such thing exists. Those zygarats in Sumer are dated thousands of years after the souther Nile variations of the pyramids were built, so they don’t even qualify.
Anyway, my personal opinion is that this whole discussion should really only be had with young black people, to instill pride as they grow. It results in nothing but chest bumping when you engage in Egypt talk with adults(white or black). @Asante , why not just let cacs believe in their fairytales? The energy expended engaging them is draining as fck. I’m don’t think we need their recognition like that.
I’d be more interested if more black folk claimed the knowledge of Egypt, rather than the lineage to the place. It pains me that there are grown folk claiming Egypt that can’t do simple Euclidean Geometry. Or don’t even have and understanding of the basic agricultural or medicinal practices of our Egyptian ancestors. I give cacs credit in the fact that they simultaneously claimed the Kemetic Lineage AND kemetic knowledge(through Euclid, Archemedies, Pythagoreas, etc). Speaking of Diop, I loved his breakdown of ancient Egyptian wall depictions of Pythagorean’s theorem. Now breh, the challenge is getting other black people interested in it too
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I think it’s critical to holding their white exceptionalism myth together. Every group of people needs an origin story. And for sure, Nobody wants to start theirs in a cave.
You can literally go to Sudan(indisputablely black) and see the ancient progression from mud triangles to step pyramids, to incomplete pyramids, to full pyramids before you even enter Egypt. If these people were anything but black Africans, then you would see the same thing (but dated earlier) in Europe, Western Asia, or that portion of Libya that white people used to occupy back in the day. No such thing exists. Those zygarats in Sumer are dated thousands of years after the souther Nile variations of the pyramids were built, so they don’t even qualify.
Anyway, my personal opinion is that this whole discussion should really only be had with young black people, to instill pride as they grow. It results in nothing but chest bumping when you engage in Egypt talk with adults(white or black). @Asante , why not just let cacs believe in their fairytales? The energy expended engaging them is draining as fck. I’m don’t think we need their recognition like that.
I’d be more interested if more black folk claimed the knowledge of Egypt, rather than the lineage to the place. It pains me that there are grown folk claiming Egypt that can’t do simple Euclidean Geometry. Or don’t even have and understanding of the basic agricultural or medicinal practices of our Egyptian ancestors. I give cacs credit in the fact that they simultaneously claimed the Kemetic Lineage AND kemetic knowledge(through Euclid, Archemedies, Pythagoreas, etc). Speaking of Diop, I loved his breakdown of ancient Egyptian wall depictions of Pythagorean’s theorem. Now breh, the challenge is getting other black people interested in it too
.I just find it funny that cacs and non-North East Africans care so much about Ancient Egypt
I think it’s critical to holding their white exceptionalism myth together. Every group of people needs an origin story. And for sure, Nobody wants to start theirs in a cave.
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Sankofa Alwayz
#FBADOS #B1 #D(M)V #KnowThyself #WaveGod
Hell they couldn’t have even been a mixture of the two because Arabs (or at least the Caucasoid ones that we’re familiar with now) ain’t even that old to begin with and didn’t really appear til around 6,000 years ago (conveniently around the time Cacs came into existence)....Compare that to 10,000 years of Dynastic Kemet with 90,000+ years of Pre-Dynastic Kemet and the fact that Black People were the first to walk on this Earth more than 200,000 years ago and it’s easy to do the math.
Plus the Ancient Egyptians never went extinct. This ain’t directed at you but everybody including Black folks need to stop treating them like they were some mysterious race of people that suddenly vanished after 525 BCE and realize that they were a multitude of African ethnicities or “tribes” and they can be found in many groups within East Africa, West-Central Africa, North Africa, Southern Africa, and even within the Diaspora to this very day. The Kushytes/Nubians too as a matter of fact, you can look to India, Arabia, and East Africa to find their descendants.
Some good books on this subject are:
God wills the Negro by Theodore P. Ford
Exiled Egyptians by Moustafa Gadalla
Wonderful Ethiopians of the Ancient Cushyte Empire by Drusilla Dunjee Houston
When The World Was Black Pt. 1 and 2 by Dr. Supreme Understanding
Egyptian Language by Dr. Clyde Winters
Nile Valley History and the Rigveda by Dr. Clyde Winters
The Kushytes: Who, What, When, Where by Dr. Clyde Winters
Black Man of the Nile and His Family by Dr. Ben Jochannan
Sacred Symbols of the Dogon by Laird Scranton
Hawass has been exposed so thoroughly that I don't even read anything he has something to do with,dude is a egyptologist that refuses to incorporate data that goes against his romantic idea of arab looking ancient egyptians. His stance on the true age of the Sphinx is outright denial when all evidence supports what Hancock for instance has been saying for decades until he could actually use credited studies to support his claim that civilizations in that region are thousands of years older and the Spinx is older that the pyramids in Gizeh by thousands of years. Guess who inhabited that part of the world..