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NY's #1 Draft Pick

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Ironman said:
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El Jefe said:
It's time for Tom Thibodeau to pull the plug on Elfrid Payton (basketballnews.com)
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Yo these numbers are pretty damning...

Payton's inefficiency on the offensive end this season has bordered on historic. There are 126 players in the NBA averaging more than 10 field goal attempts per game. According to Basketball-Reference, Elfrid Payton is the only one of those 126 players shooting below 45% from the floor, below 30% from three-point territory, and below 70% from the free-throw stripe.

Defensively, the metrics may be more damning. With Payton on the court this season (he's logged a total of 1,424 minutes), the Knicks allow 111 points per 100 possessions. That's the worst on-court DefRtg on the team. With Payton on the bench (a total of 1,865 minutes), the Knicks allow just 104 points per 100 possessions. His cumulative Net Rating of -93 is 60 points worse than anyone else on the roster.

Recently, even when the Knicks have enjoyed success, sometimes it seems as though it's in spite of Payton. Consider New York's recently completed six-game road trip. In the 95 minutes Payton played, the Knicks were outscored by 51 points. In the 198 minutes Payton was on the bench, the Knicks outscored their opponents by 55 points. That's a whopping 106-point swing over just six contests.
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Next cutout for the Frank hive...
With both Quickley (sprained left ankle) and Burks (left knee contusion) sidelined Tuesday night, Ntilikina logged more than 15 minutes for the first time since mid-March and had an outsized impact on both ends of the floor. And Ntilikina has been surprisingly effective from three-point territory all year long, shooting 46.8% from downtown.

For context, Payton has made 22 of his last 86 three-point attempts, whereas Ntilikina has made 22 of the 47 three-pointers he's attempted this season.

If the argument for starting Payton is having a big, physical defender on the floor to limit the production of opposing point guards, Ntilikina certainly checks that box. Ntilikina is one of the team's most versatile and effective perimeter defenders. And although he isn't as proficient a slasher as Payton, Ntilikina is a more reliable outside shooter. Ntilikina's presence should stretch the floor, prevent defenses from sagging into the paint and potentially open up driving lanes for Julius Randle and R.J. Barrett.
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Because what's this thread without a bit of Frank trolling involved? :mjlol:

This is a Tommy Beer article btw. He's all over Knicks twitter so no shock that he's all over the pulse of the discussion Knicks fans have been having.
 
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I suck a paying attention to playoff seedings. What are the odds we bump up a spot in these final three games?
 
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Shogun said:
I suck a paying attention to playoff seedings. What are the odds we bump up a spot in these final three games?
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Heat play the Sixers and Bucks next. So I think we can overtake them if we win out. The Hawks have a soft schedule the rest of the way. We got Spurs, Hornets, Celtics so it'll take some work to win out.
 
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