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Heels with no credibility. This is often a WWE thing, and since 2002 is fresh in m mind, one of the worst examples I've ever seen is Chris Jericho.


He spends most of 2001 as a highly credible champ who could beat Austin/HHH on any given night. When he finally wins a big one by defeating Rock for the WCW Championship, it involves Stephanie fukkery and hitting his finish on a chair. The night he wins the World and WWF championships, he beats Rock with a Vince run in and a low blow, beats Austin after multiple ref bumps/Vince/Flair/Booker run ins followed by a belt shot.

The rematch with Rock at the Rumble has Lance Storm/Christian run ins, a ref bump,. heel ref refusing to count for Rock, low blow, exposed turnbuckle, and feet on the ropes. He beats Austin at No Way Out after multiple ref bumps and the NWO running in.

After he loses the title, he's on Smackdown having to cheat to beat rookie John Cena and THE BIG VALBOWSKI. On Raw, he has to cheat to beat Maven even as champion. I'm pretty confident Jericho doesn't have a single decisive, semi clean win all year. There is absolutely zero reason to take him seriously as a competitor. This dude had to cheat to beat LOW carders even as double champion. His title run was dog shyt not because he was picking up Steph's dog's shyt, but because he had no credibility whatsoever.

It's okay to have heels be established as just better than some of their opponents. They can stay heels and get clean wins. You don't need a bunch of fukkery and territory bullshyt to "keep the face strong" every fukking match.
 

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Heels with no credibility. This is often a WWE thing, and since 2002 is fresh in m mind, one of the worst examples I've ever seen is Chris Jericho.


He spends most of 2001 as a highly credible champ who could beat Austin/HHH on any given night. When he finally wins a big one by defeating Rock for the WCW Championship, it involves Stephanie fukkery and hitting his finish on a chair. The night he wins the World and WWF championships, he beats Rock with a Vince run in and a low blow, beats Austin after multiple ref bumps/Vince/Flair/Booker run ins followed by a belt shot.

The rematch with Rock at the Rumble has Lance Storm/Christian run ins, a ref bump,. heel ref refusing to count for Rock, low blow, exposed turnbuckle, and feet on the ropes. He beats Austin at No Way Out after multiple ref bumps and the NWO running in.

After he loses the title, he's on Smackdown having to cheat to beat rookie John Cena and THE BIG VALBOWSKI. On Raw, he has to cheat to beat Maven even as champion. I'm pretty confident Jericho doesn't have a single decisive, semi clean win all year. There is absolutely zero reason to take him seriously as a competitor. This dude had to cheat to beat LOW carders even as double champion. His title run was dog shyt not because he was picking up Steph's dog's shyt, but because he had no credibility whatsoever.

It's okay to have heels be established as just better than some of their opponents. They can stay heels and get clean wins. You don't need a bunch of fukkery and territory bullshyt to "keep the face strong" every fukking match.


Yeah IMO this started getting really bad during the Invasion angle

What I say is that all "dirty" finishes aren't the same; Like its one thing to have a heel get in a discreet cheap shot/pull the tights/Put their feet on the ropes or have their manager slide their foot onto the ring apron, but its another thing entirely to have a heel dead to rights and then the ref gets knocked out cold or the lights shut out (hate that shyt) and two or three other ppl come in and jump the face and slide the heel on top of them. You can have a sketchy finish that doesn't negate the first 95% of the match IMO but I guess the writers don't see it that way
 

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I think a face getting multiple visual pins or subs over the heel and those not being seen due to run ins or distractions or ref bumps and then the heel still needing a low blow or weapon is a dirty finish and that was almost literally every Jericho finish in 2002.
 

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Heels with no credibility. This is often a WWE thing, and since 2002 is fresh in m mind, one of the worst examples I've ever seen is Chris Jericho.


He spends most of 2001 as a highly credible champ who could beat Austin/HHH on any given night. When he finally wins a big one by defeating Rock for the WCW Championship, it involves Stephanie fukkery and hitting his finish on a chair. The night he wins the World and WWF championships, he beats Rock with a Vince run in and a low blow, beats Austin after multiple ref bumps/Vince/Flair/Booker run ins followed by a belt shot.

The rematch with Rock at the Rumble has Lance Storm/Christian run ins, a ref bump,. heel ref refusing to count for Rock, low blow, exposed turnbuckle, and feet on the ropes. He beats Austin at No Way Out after multiple ref bumps and the NWO running in.

After he loses the title, he's on Smackdown having to cheat to beat rookie John Cena and THE BIG VALBOWSKI. On Raw, he has to cheat to beat Maven even as champion. I'm pretty confident Jericho doesn't have a single decisive, semi clean win all year. There is absolutely zero reason to take him seriously as a competitor. This dude had to cheat to beat LOW carders even as double champion. His title run was dog shyt not because he was picking up Steph's dog's shyt, but because he had no credibility whatsoever.

It's okay to have heels be established as just better than some of their opponents. They can stay heels and get clean wins. You don't need a bunch of fukkery and territory bullshyt to "keep the face strong" every fukking match.
Additionally, I have a visceral hatred for stupid faces in WWE that always get beaten up.

It's like ever since Bryan got over even when they kept booking him to lose, WWE try to book almost all their faces the same way and it's frustrating. Thank God they managed to get Drew right but of course, now there's no credible heels! :russ:. Other than a very select few, all the faces are stupid and get into ridiculous situations that end in beatdowns very regularly. They were even doing it to Roman.
 
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