You really can't hate on John Cena this year...

[ML29]

The whole product is fukking corny and has been for some time. People pick and choose whom they wish to support.

That Daniel Bryan/Kane "hugging buddies" shyt is corny as hell. It sucks. Daniel Bryan isn't turning shyt to sugar. He's just rolling around in sewage until a new storyline mercifully plucks him out. He's a joke now. A typical comedy heel participating in bad skits. So much wasted potential.

As for Kane, how hard is it to book a psychopath? Dude had the best run ever after the first unmasking prior to that stupid ass Shane McMahon feud. That's how you book him. Not in anger fukking management. The "Embrace the Hate" campaign could have gone somewhere too. But instead Zack Ryder gets involved. He needs to go back to wearing his halfsie and be a Long Island douche again.

Sheamus. He's my dude, I hate it had to be him. He doesn't have the range for comedic skits or long promos that don't involve ass kicking. You don't pair up a long-winded guy like Punk with a guy like Sheamus for a promo. I like the Brogue Kick stuff, it makes him a killer. But then he opens his mouth. They've had this dude apologize to heels on two separate occasions. Be a star remember? You're supposed to apologize to your bully now?

Pipebomb Punk as a face was corny too. The only memorable pipe bomb was the first one. The other shyt was contrived as fukk. I will say with exception of the clusterfukk AJ storyline Punk had a lot of edge for a face. But that's like eating a bowl of shyt and thinking a kernel of corn buried in it is a bonus.

The Funkasaurus

Generic Cocky Heel 2a Cody Rhodes

Slightly Less Generic Cocky Heel 1.7 Dolph Ziggler

John Cena is just the tip of the corny iceberg. The shyt runs so deep below the surface Hagfish and those creepy fish with their own fish hooks live at the base.

The whole product is piss poor. Accept it like I have and it's more tolerable.

EDIT AJ as GM

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it's ALL True, damn

 

[Libra Lady]

Aye? Hmm...Well I haven't been very impressed by John Cena this year, and really for the majority of his run on top but I digress. He's a polarizing character, so at the end of the day, it is what it is. Some people like him and make valid points as to why, and some dislike him and they have good reasoning. Meh.

 

[ThatTruth777]

Yeah... here's the thing though. I got why I don't like him. He's a good person and all that good shyt but its just he's so fukking boring. Now my tolerance for being bored is pretty high but when this shyt goes on and on and on... becomes frustration.

And I know the argument of him not being able to turn heel because he sells merchandise and all that but fukk all that its not entertaining. And for them to try and paint him as a GOAT when dam near all of them had times when they were heel/face is fukking stupid. Its like when you think about the great wrestlers did you enjoy there run as a face/heel throughout? You had preferences and all that but overall it was cool. Cena's been one way the entire time and even when he was a heel he was just alright. All he has is a look that's been accepted because of the image Vince has pushed of what a wrestler should be.

I don't even hate dude like that but he needs to get the fukk to the back. He's almost like HHH where he has to constantly be the focal point and interject his lameness into a somewhat decent angle/feud in addition to burying up and coming dudes or get fed by them in a vain attempt pathetically stop from getting boo'd.

I'm done...

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

Going off script is usually a moment for y'all. But now the script is sacred when it comes to Cena. Why they let him say that shyt about my heroes? The script is still real to me damnit.

And at don't care as much. 60-70% of the threads on here involve shytting on Cena in some way, shape or form. You guys don't care less. You care as much as you always have, if not more.

And Cena burying the title. So what? Punk has had the damn thing for eight months. Isn't it his job to bring some shine to the title? Why the fukk should Cena have to do all the leg work?

And burying people is a-okay with you guys, unless HHH or Cena does it. You all still bring up that Rock promo that absolutely KILLED any momentum Billy Gunn had. Or when Christian cut that Mark E Mark promo you all will just not let go of. And Cena's never outright buried anyone, except himself with his frequent self depreciating promos. Cena is "burying" the title because he doesn't have it. It makes sense for him to say the belt doesn't mean shyt if he doesn't have it. Punk is his RIVAL. He shouldn't be bowing down to him. And even if he did you all would be bytching about how Cena is too soft.

But it's fun to watch the level of psychosis that Cena brings out of the Average smark fan. Local Mafia boss and super villain explosives expert R=G think there's some huge conspiracy to get Cena over using Make a Wish kids.

And let's not forget Cena leeching off Zach Ryder's heat. Or Daniel Bryan's.

It's hilarious watching people type out all of these theories and outright bullshyt fueled solely by the hatred of one man. John Cena has worked and trolled you all. He's the largest and most successful tweener in wrestling history.

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Going off script wasnt the main issue. Doing it where it adds nothing to the program is another. The Rock shyt was slightly excusable because it brought a real degree of hatred but youre going to sit here and try and spin the Lesnar shyt?

Fine maybe i spoke for too many people... I dont care, i dont get mad at shyt with him. I change the channel generally. You can go ahead and try to find a thread i started to bash Cena. Youll be looking for a while. You can also find recent posts where i defend him when necessary. Wont take you long. If i cared as much as youre letting on i would have wrote more than the two sentences you quoted me on.

Ive never used the term Cena and buried in the same sentence. Moving on.

Whatever he does to R=G is what he does to R=G. That dont equate to the rest of us. I say what i have to say about him, good or bad and keep it movin. Its jokes just like anyone else. nikka is corny. We clown him accordingly. World keeps spinnin.

So again for the topic i largely dont care either way about dude. Hes there, i dont enjoy him myself but as ive said repeatedly, i understand his appeal. But i wont sit here and lie to myself saying hes better than hes been in recent years. The only difference is he is out of the title picture.

 

[TrueEpic08]

The whole product is fukking corny and has been for some time. People pick and choose whom they wish to support.

That Daniel Bryan/Kane "hugging buddies" shyt is corny as hell. It sucks. Daniel Bryan isn't turning shyt to sugar. He's just rolling around in sewage until a new storyline mercifully plucks him out. He's a joke now. A typical comedy heel participating in bad skits. So much wasted potential.

As for Kane, how hard is it to book a psychopath? Dude had the best run ever after the first unmasking prior to that stupid ass Shane McMahon feud. That's how you book him. Not in anger fukking management. The "Embrace the Hate" campaign could have gone somewhere too. But instead Zack Ryder gets involved. He needs to go back to wearing his halfsie and be a Long Island douche again.

Sheamus. He's my dude, I hate it had to be him. He doesn't have the range for comedic skits or long promos that don't involve ass kicking. You don't pair up a long-winded guy like Punk with a guy like Sheamus for a promo. I like the Brogue Kick stuff, it makes him a killer. But then he opens his mouth. They've had this dude apologize to heels on two separate occasions. Be a star remember? You're supposed to apologize to your bully now?

Pipebomb Punk as a face was corny too. The only memorable pipe bomb was the first one. The other shyt was contrived as fukk. I will say with exception of the clusterfukk AJ storyline Punk had a lot of edge for a face. But that's like eating a bowl of shyt and thinking a kernel of corn buried in it is a bonus.

The Funkasaurus

Generic Cocky Heel 2a Cody Rhodes

Slightly Less Generic Cocky Heel 1.7 Dolph Ziggler

John Cena is just the tip of the corny iceberg. The shyt runs so deep below the surface Hagfish and those creepy fish with their own fish hooks live at the base.

The whole product is piss poor. Accept it like I have and it's more tolerable.

EDIT AJ as GM

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This, except for that garbage about accepting it (who accpets chicken shyt anyway?), was on point.

That first post of yours was pure trolling though. Especially on that "Cena's SUPPOSED to bury the belt" shyt. If you can't see the galling logic flaw in saying that you've been above the belt for 10 months, the supposed crown jewel of the company, basically saying that it's status as grand prize elevates no one, then challenging for it, I don't know what to tell you. If you're above it, what's so special about going after it? Why have a belt when it's not going to be THE prize in 90% of situations?

It's just stupid and counter-productive.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Shades of Gray buddy. Who's the face, who's the heel.

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[GoddamnyamanProf]

Shades of Gray buddy. Who's the face, who's the heel.

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[luckyse7enz]

I personally blame two people (at the most) for Cena's act becoming stale. You've got to think about it...in the past year or so, there haven't been too many clean-cut guys getting themselves over that could be taken seriously.

The first one's The Rock. As long as they're building toward another Cena showdown with The Rock, we're going to have to go through this long period of Cena looking strong while simultaneously building Punk/Bryan/Sheamus/etc.

You can only make Cena look so weak though...because they're eventually going to try to sell that Rock/Cena match again and for it to truly matter, you need both to look somewhat strong...even if we're getting bored with it.

Here's the guy I blame for not improving in his weak areas and becoming the new clean-cut face. I believe that if this guy had "figured it out" and gotten himself over on the mic in a major way, he could have easily been close to what Cena is and thus, allowed Cena room to tweak his character....

Spoiler

Clean-cut, Orton's appeal to women w/ a Mysterio move set....if only he'd learned to get over on the mic, sell some damn sunglasses, and do more meaningful shyt. He could've been another strict non-comedy, non-tweener face and with the way he talks about fitness and individuality, he could've translated well into the whole Be A Star/Make-a-Wish shyt.

Just my opinion.

 

[Kang Deezy]

He did a suicide dive!!

 

[R=G]

I personally blame two people (at the most) for Cena's act becoming stale. You've got to think about it...in the past year or so, there haven't been too many clean-cut guys getting themselves over that could be taken seriously.

The first one's The Rock. As long as they're building toward another Cena showdown with The Rock, we're going to have to go through this long period of Cena looking strong while simultaneously building Punk/Bryan/Sheamus/etc.

You can only make Cena look so weak though...because they're eventually going to try to sell that Rock/Cena match again and for it to truly matter, you need both to look somewhat strong...even if we're getting bored with it.

Here's the guy I blame for not improving in his weak areas and becoming the new clean-cut face. I believe that if this guy had "figured it out" and gotten himself over on the mic in a major way, he could have easily been close to what Cena is and thus, allowed Cena room to tweak his character....

Spoiler

Clean-cut, Orton's appeal to women w/ a Mysterio move set....if only he'd learned to get over on the mic, sell some damn sunglasses, and do more meaningful shyt. He could've been another strict non-comedy, non-tweener face and with the way he talks about fitness and individuality, he could've translated well into the whole Be A Star/Make-a-Wish shyt.

Just my opinion.

Nah..the Rock doesn't control the book. Wish we could see the Rock in some kind of Survivor Series style match to interact with ALL the new names getting pushed...Bryan/Barrett/Miz/Ziggler/Sheamus/Punk...everyone. That can STILL happen in some form if he "loses" at the Rumble and enters in the #30 spot.

 

[Beautiful Bobby Eatin]

I personally blame two people (at the most) for Cena's act becoming stale. You've got to think about it...in the past year or so, there haven't been too many clean-cut guys getting themselves over that could be taken seriously.

The first one's The Rock. As long as they're building toward another Cena showdown with The Rock, we're going to have to go through this long period of Cena looking strong while simultaneously building Punk/Bryan/Sheamus/etc.

You can only make Cena look so weak though...because they're eventually going to try to sell that Rock/Cena match again and for it to truly matter, you need both to look somewhat strong...even if we're getting bored with it.

Here's the guy I blame for not improving in his weak areas and becoming the new clean-cut face. I believe that if this guy had "figured it out" and gotten himself over on the mic in a major way, he could have easily been close to what Cena is and thus, allowed Cena room to tweak his character....

Spoiler

Clean-cut, Orton's appeal to women w/ a Mysterio move set....if only he'd learned to get over on the mic, sell some damn sunglasses, and do more meaningful shyt. He could've been another strict non-comedy, non-tweener face and with the way he talks about fitness and individuality, he could've translated well into the whole Be A Star/Make-a-Wish shyt.

Just my opinion.

Theyve brought up Orton and Sheamus as top face roles since then and theyre still bland as shyt too. You cant blame Morrison not getting over for that. Dude should have stayed a heel anyway. What Cena is what they want Cena to be right now.

Vince is still obviously trapped in 1987 where the all american clean babyface is what sells. Its a nice thought but the world doesnt look at things so black and white anymore. Anti-heros sell to a larger demographic than kids do. HHH understands this but Vince doesnt hence the impasse they and the WWE are in. Bottom line is Vince is not as smart a business man as he wants people to believe. He is a one trick pony that leaned that trick very well but a LONG time ago.

 

[Kang Deezy]

Who had a long run at the top as THE GUY that does what Cena does in the ring? Cena constantly adds new moves and consistently has strong main events.

Did you ever see HHH, Hogan, Rock, Warrior, Austin do suicide dives?

He's not Bret Hart, HBK, or Savage but he's better than pretty much everyone else.

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Nah..the Rock doesn't control the book. Wish we could see the Rock in some kind of Survivor Series style match to interact with ALL the new names getting pushed...Bryan/Barrett/Miz/Ziggler/Sheamus/Punk...everyone. That can STILL happen in some form if he "loses" at the Rumble and enters in the #30 spot.

Cena doesn't control the book either but that doesn't stop your constant bytching to the point of obsession.

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[captaincharisma]

--At the beginning of the main event, somebody passed around "Cena sucks" signs right at ringside on the side facing the hard camera. They were visible early in the match but they were confiscated quickly. When you saw fans looking away early in the match, it was because they were distracted by all the signs being confiscated.