We stand on the same ground hereAh I see. Fair enough. And to be straight with you I don't deny the possibility of there being a creator beyond our comprehension. I just do't really buy the current er...suggestions as to who this guy is, his personality and so on.
On a side note: I find it sorta funny that pretty much most of the "candidates" that humans have come up with over the centuries are a lot like us, at the very least in character. With the major differences being in well overall capabilities (Doing godly things like sending lightning bolts or guiding the dead to the afterlife).
Feels so..."manmade" rather than something that is really outside of our understanding. God feels jealousy, lust, anger some even engage in acts of debauchery on the regular (Like Zeus lol). Stuff that we can relate to.
Addressing this side note, I believe the myths are highly, highly misunderstood. What they were meant to do is bring a percievable explanation to spirits/energies beyond what mere language can explain. Theyre not saying that they ACTUALLY do these human things like lighting bolts whatever. theyre attempting to explain the unexplainable, using things you can relate to.
How do you explain to someone what joy is? To someone who doesnt know nor has ever felt joy how can you possibly try to get him to understand the emotion/energy that is joy? The best you can really come with is "its like a butterfly fluttering in your heart, bursting through with rays of sunshine and laughing babies", am i not correct?
People like to take things literally and it ends up being a story about a "god who is literally a butterfly who flies through the sky at the break of dawn and makes baby cherubs laugh!!"
you see what im saying?
The thing is that it's hard to determine if any of the odd events that occured in the past was actually God trying to commmunicate with us. Can you give me an example of what you're talking about? Are you referring to an event that already occured, or a hypothetical one?
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I think that we agree that, there's no reason to deny the possibility of there being a a creator beyond what we understand. Atheism is basically this really, atheists don't deny the possibility of their being a creator, they just don't believe in the explanations and reasoning put forward by the many religions that exist when it comes to creation and the purpose of mankind's existence. basically.
Im not pinpointing a specific moment like Moses on Mount Sinai, or Mohammed in Mecca. But im asking you if you consider the possibility that "God" did speak a message to mankind, at a pivotal point in our development (mankind as a whole).
Moving further, that as i explained in the side point, that that same message was either intentionally or purposely, perverted by mankind, and the true message behind the holy scriptures we have today is lost to those who look to them with plain eyes, so to speak.
The heart of my point and my opinion is you cant shoot the originator, cause the messenger jacked up the message.
Follow me here. If you have a friend who you sent a message to. But the messenger tells your friend an offensive message. A true friend would seek you out, to confirm those words before he casts judgement on you. In that is he not just?
But if you have a friend, who hears the message, then without ever trying to talk to you says, fukk Juvenile, I dont fukk with him, ill fukk with these other nikkas instead. Would you not call him a coward and a fake friend who you did not need anyway?..