Y'all Said LeBron and The Superteam Era Ruined the NBA; Y'all Said the 3-Point Boom Era Ruined the NBA

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Ever since The Decision, there was an overwhelming sentiment that the product wasn't what it used to be. Y'all said it killed competition, y'all said players from the 90s would never do this, y'all said it fractured the fabric of the NBA, y'all said it made the league unwatchable. Fast forward to today, and y'all are saying the same damn things about the 3-pt shot.

What makes y'all think y'all won't just find the next thing to hate about the NBA? What makes y'all think it won't be a never-ending cycle where y'all just find something to hate because it doesn't compare to the past?

The league has 125-international players (comprehensively more than it did in previous eras), and given how global the game is now, say the amount of international players exponentially grows and grows, and American stars are further pushed into the background, and the league adopts even more of an international identity, won't y'all just complain about that? If the league becomes a product where they need interpreters to interview players at the end of games, y'all not going to hate what that symbolizes?

If Wemby ends up being the best player in the league, and some of these other French players turn into All-Stars or become integral pieces to their respective teams, and the NBA chooses to put the spotlight on France, are y'all telling me y'all wouldn't feel some type of way?

With each passing season, Gen Z hoopers are going to monopolize more and more of the league, putting further distance between the NBA and the generation(s) that y'all identify with, and won't y'all just find something to hate about the league when it will inevitably become a reflection of Gen Z? Y'all will hate the way they play the game, y'all will hate the way they act, y'all will hate the way they dress, y'all will hate whatever political or societal positions they take. Everything that they represent will be in contrast to the league that y'all grew up on.

I say this because some of y'all have to face facts - y'all can complain about all the 3s y'all want, but y'all are fooling yourselves if you think y'all won't be complaining about the next thing that gets on y'all nerves.

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Coli is just parroting what they heard some weirdo on a broadcast or a radio show says
 

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Ever since The Decision, there was an overwhelming sentiment that the product wasn't what it used to be. Y'all said it killed competition, y'all said players from the 90s would never do this, y'all said it fractured the fabric of the NBA, y'all said it made the league unwatchable. Fast forward to today, and y'all are saying the same damn things about the 3-pt shot.

What makes y'all think y'all won't just find the next thing to hate about the NBA? What makes y'all think it won't be a never-ending cycle where y'all just find something to hate because it doesn't compare to the past?

The league has 125-international players (comprehensively more than it did in previous eras), and given how global the game is now, say the amount of international players exponentially grows and grows, and American stars are further pushed into the background, and the league adopts even more of an international identity, won't y'all just complain about that? If the league becomes a product where they need interpreters to interview players at the end of games, y'all not going to hate what that symbolizes?

If Wemby ends up being the best player in the league, and some of these other French players turn into All-Stars or become integral pieces to their respective teams, and the NBA chooses to put the spotlight on France, are y'all telling me y'all wouldn't feel some type of way?

With each passing season, Gen Z hoopers are going to monopolize more and more of the league, putting further distance between the NBA and the generation(s) that y'all identify with, and won't y'all just find something to hate about the league when it will inevitably become a reflection of Gen Z? Y'all will hate the way they play the game, y'all will hate the way they act, y'all will hate the way they dress, y'all will hate whatever political or societal positions they take. Everything that they represent will be in contrast to the league that y'all grew up on.

I say this because some of y'all have to face facts - y'all can complain about all the 3s y'all want, but y'all are fooling yourselves if you think y'all won't be complaining about the next thing that gets on y'all nerves.

:hubie:
This is an issue because the league’s media ecosystem isn’t built around growing the game or teaching people about the game and why it’s great. It’s about something else entirely.
Tell us you're a Bron stan without telling us you're a Bron stan.

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The principle remains the same, you took exception with a superteam, and it made the product less entertaining to you.
Nah, he’s got a point. One guy left a terrible roster & organization with no future and signed with a team that had 1 other really good player and 1 other great player that had real promise, but hadn’t accomplished anything in the past 4 years with 3 first round exits and also a 15-67 season in that span. The other guy joined a 73-9 squad that came within 5 points of back to back titles that his squad which featured another mainstay on the all nba team blew a 3-1 lead against with the both of them playing poorly and/or blowing it in the closing minutes of games 5, 6, and 7. The only comparison I can think of that fits is Marian Hossa leaving the penguins for the red wings after the penguins lost to the red wings in the Stanley cup finals.


To be fair, signing there was the only way to get the based god to lift the curse without apologizing to him, which of course was a non starter so his options on how to fix that issue were limited :hubie:
 
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This is an issue because the league’s media ecosystem isn’t built around growing the game or teaching people about the game and why it’s great. It’s about something else entirely.
That's definitely part of it, but even the NFL has had its issues with not passing on its recipes, where there's been a disconnect between the past and the present. Even the likes of Tom Brady has made it a point of emphasis lately.

It really all stems from the fact that the NBA has never had a safety net.

It's never been part of this country's fabric, so the league is more or less treated as a sidechick, when it's only liked out of convenience rather than the woman that everyone comes home to (like the NFL is). I don't think that's something that'll ever change, unfortunately. Selling its soul for MJ's image made sure of that.
Nah, he’s got a point. One guy left a terrible roster & organization with no future and signed with a team that had 1 other really good player and 1 other great player that had real promise, but hadn’t accomplished anything in the past 4 years with 3 first round exits and also a 15-67 season in that span. The other guy joined a 73-9 squad that came within 5 points of back to back titles that his squad which featured another mainstay on the all nba team blew a 3-1 lead against with the both of them playing poorly and/or blowing it in the closing minutes of games 5, 6, and 7.


To be fair, signing there was the only way to get the based god to lift the curse without apologizing to him, which of course was a non starter so his options on how to fix that issue were limited :hubie:
All KD did was hot line, hot song Bron's shyt.

The differences in how exactly they both went about forming a superteam and what occured prior is all rather inconsequential. If Bron could do the exact same thing that KD did, best believe he would've done it. The scernario just fell into KD's lap and he took advantage of it. Bron clearly had the intention of forming the best team possible, at the time, which I don't begrudge him of. He was wasting away his talents in Cleveland and he took control of his future.

That should be celebrated rather than ridiculed, but I digress.

More to the point -

I remember reading and hearing the reactions to him going to Miami, in real time, and I know how distraught, disappointed, disgusted and disheartened folks were with what he did, and with the state of the league in wake of that. They were willing to fast-forward the next period of the league just to erase it from memory. They then blamed him for what KD did because he was the one who set the precedent. This is not a thread to shame Bron or KD, in any way, this is about cats taking exception with that they did, as a representation, and how it was a far cry from the game that they grew up watching.

They're going to inevitably hate the next thing that comes about, whether that's more international players, The Gen Z Takeover, more subplots like the NBA Cup etc.

The game is naturally going to get further and further away from what folks grew up on, and they're only kidding themselves if they think cutting off the head of the 3-pt shot won't mean the league won't just grow back another head for them to hate. The Hydra that is the NBA isn't going away.
 
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