Xbox Studios Boss Admits Lagging Behind Sony In Terms Of Big Tentpole Games

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Microsoft :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

How y'all nikkas down so much when y'all was just up with the 360 :francis:


The formula aint hard; put the right studios behind the right genres of games....get the important exclusives.....listen to constructive criticism......$$$$$$$. That's really the only difference between Sony and Microsoft. One makes the right decisions and the other doesn't.

Its amazing how much they forgot that games fukking matter to a gaming system
 

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For Microsoft you don’t spend all that cash on developers and R&D to aim for second place. More new 1st party titles is a win. The other side is Sony is having momentum from last gen but that stubbornness from a market lead can fukk them up now. Sony’s first party bench at the moment is real though but this generation just touched a year.
 

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Microsoft :mjlol::mjlol::mjlol::mjlol:

How y'all nikkas down so much when y'all was just up with the 360 :francis:


The formula aint hard; put the right studios behind the right genres of games....get the important exclusives.....listen to constructive criticism......$$$$$$$. That's really the only difference between Sony and Microsoft. One makes the right decisions and the other doesn't.
People forget how much had to go wrong for Sony, and right for MS to get the traction they did with the 360.

The PS3 had the whole over priced fiasco at launch, then they took away backwards compatibility and scaled back the system and took away options which made people mad.

On top of that the Xbox released a whole year early and the icing on the cake was that it was easier to develop for devs made multi plat games on Xbox and the ported them to PS3.


Seeing a trend?

And even after all that the PlayStation still crept back up later that gen.

Then the xb1 comes around and not only do they not have any of the advantages they had last gen. They push a digital future and put their foot in their mouths and basically lose all the good will they built.


On top of that 3rd party devs have no huge insensitive to make or port games to the Xbox. Let alone exclusives.


MS pretty much takes the L last generation and looks to the future of gaming and Phil ushers in gamepass and the acquisition of studios around 2018
 

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For Microsoft you don’t spend all that cash on developers and R&D to aim for second place. More new 1st party titles is a win. The other side is Sony is having momentum from last gen but that stubbornness from a market lead can fukk them up now. Sony’s first party bench at the moment is real though but this generation just touched a year.

Sony has pretty much been a market lead since PSX. Thats 95 until 2021

The two big successful home consoles nintendo has had since the SNES have only been to make up for the colossal failures of another console.

People always run that narrative of “arrogant sony” into the ground from the ps3 days, completely ignoring the ps1 to ps2, or end of the ps3 to ps4, and now the ps4 to ps5

The ps3 was it’s lowest selling console at 90 million units
 
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Sony has pretty much been a market lead since PSX. Thats 95 until 2021

The two big successful home consoles nintendo has had since the SNES have only been to make up for the colossal failures of another console.

People always run that narrative of “arrogant sony” into the ground from the ps3 days, completely ignoring the ps1 to ps2, or end of the ps3 to ps4, and now the ps4 to ps5

The ps3 was it’s lowest selling console at 90 million units

The pendulum swings back and forth every generation. Sony isn’t alone in the narrative. Xbox One struggled out the gate because they lost focus on the gamer after the 360. The Wii was a hit but the Wii U wasn’t able to catch that same wave.

No one knows how this generation will end. Both companies are fixing holes in their game from last generation while growing. So we’ll see.
 

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The pendulum swings back and forth every generation. Sony isn’t alone in the narrative. Xbox One struggled out the gate because they lost focus on the gamer after the 360. The Wii was a hit but the Wii U wasn’t able to catch that same wave.

No one knows how this generation will end. Both companies are fixing holes in their game from last generation while growing. So we’ll see.

Yeah, but what I’m saying is you can’t really compare the ps3 to the Wii U, or the GameCube, or n64. In the end the ps3 was a highly successful console, and I’m sure a lot of that had to do with Blu Ray

Sonys consoles sales range from 90m-144m, nintendo and xbox had clear failures due to their lack of flexibility and leadership. Sony has never made a mistake so costly that i would ever expect them to completely drop the ball.

I’ve had every nintendo console aside from the wii-u, and every console aside from the xbox one, to me both those companies have made tremendous mistakes that cost them. Sony pivoted from the ps3 launch beautifully. Thats really the difference
 

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Yeah, but what I’m saying is you can’t really compare the ps3 to the Wii U, or the GameCube, or n64. In the end the ps3 was a highly successful console, and I’m sure a lot of that had to do with Blu Ray

Sonys consoles sales range from 90m-144m, nintendo and xbox had clear failures due to their lack of flexibility and leadership. Sony has never made a mistake so costly that i would ever expect them to completely drop the ball.

I’ve had every nintendo console aside from the wii-u, and every console aside from the xbox one, to me both those companies have made tremendous mistakes that cost them. Sony pivoted from the ps3 launch beautifully. Thats really the difference

The point I’m making It’s too early to tell where the winds will take either company because they’re putting their best foot forward. Also momentum doesn’t mean you become the trendsetter. Even now Sony stance on crossplay isn’t as clear, this leaves Microsoft and their PC arm to reach out more.

Sony is bringing games to a new audience on the PC and Game Pass is offering great value. They don’t negate each each out and value can differ from person to person but these moves make the industry better as a whole and that’s a fact.

The price of the PS3 at launch was a black eye. The PlayStation Network hack was a black eye(which helped killed Zipper), The removal of rumble for a forced motion sensor was a black eye. Those were costly mistakes. These things will follow Sony forever like RROD follows Microsoft.
 

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The point I’m making It’s too early to tell where the winds will take either company because they’re putting their best foot forward. Also momentum doesn’t mean you become the trendsetter. Even now Sony stance on crossplay isn’t as clear, this leaves Microsoft and their PC arm to reach out more.

Sony is bringing games to a new audience on the PC and Game Pass is offering great value. They don’t negate each each out and value can differ from person to person but these moves make the industry better as a whole and that’s a fact.

The price of the PS3 at launch was a black eye. The PlayStation Network hack was a black eye(which helped killed Zipper), The removal of rumble for a forced motion sensor was a black eye. Those were costly mistakes. These things will follow Sony forever like RROD follows Microsoft.

Nah, all of those Sony mistakes in the PS3 aren't really comparable, as they vastly recovered from their mistakes within the same gen and then really took off back to their glory days again the proceeding gen. Meanwhile, whenever Nintendo or M$ fukked up during a gen, they never recovered in that same gen, like not even debatable in that regard.

Xbox one never recovered from the Always Online with No Games for that entire Gen. Their status from that sent them right back to were they started with the original Xbox as not even being a B+ player in the mix, despite the power difference. WiiU never made any ground or recovered at all. Just like the Gamecube barely made any noise its entire gen and how the N64, while fairly liked among gamers/hardcore ninty heads, came out the gate vastly behind the times in terms of tech and was the beginning of Nintendo losing its grip as the top dawg of the gaming industry and preluding to their precedent of not even being a contender tech wise. It had just barely beat Sega with SNES and that was basically just at the very end did they squeak by and then went two gens straight being 2nd or dead last AND not even releasing as many games as they were once known to doing so and losing major stock with 3rd party support. It's also when they started being hit or miss with their non-mario franchises, that is, if some of their franchises even came out at all anymore.

It's by the grace of god that the Switch is quite a success, because if it hadn't been and they went two straight gens of being vastly behind on all fronts again, they liable to have went out like Sega, whom like most of these other mentionable failures, literally never recovered after their slew of disappointments came in, back to back, gen after gen. Then again, they might've been able to take 1 more L before truly bowing out tho, as they did go 2 back to back losses before the original Wii fluke won that gen with gimmicks.

Sony surely got humbled PS3 gen, but they only fell a few stories from the top of the mountain and pretty much climbed right back up it before the gen was even done. The others, they fell all the way to the wayside whenever they fukked up.
 
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The point I’m making It’s too early to tell where the winds will take either company because they’re putting their best foot forward. Also momentum doesn’t mean you become the trendsetter. Even now Sony stance on crossplay isn’t as clear, this leaves Microsoft and their PC arm to reach out more.

Sony is bringing games to a new audience on the PC and Game Pass is offering great value. They don’t negate each each out and value can differ from person to person but these moves make the industry better as a whole and that’s a fact.

The price of the PS3 at launch was a black eye. The PlayStation Network hack was a black eye(which helped killed Zipper), The removal of rumble for a forced motion sensor was a black eye. Those were costly mistakes. These things will follow Sony forever like RROD follows Microsoft.


Nah, all of those Sony mistakes in the PS3 aren't really comparable, as they vastly recovered from their mistakes within the same gen and then really took off back to their glory days again the proceeding gen. Meanwhile, whenever Nintendo or M$ fukked up during a gen, they never recovered in that same gen, like not even debatable in that regard. Xbox one never recovered from the Always Online with No Games for that entire Gen. Their status from that sent them right back to were they started with the original Xbox as not even being a B+ player in the mix, despite the power difference. WiiU never made any ground or recovered at all. Just like the Gamecube barely made any noise its entire gen and how the N64, while fairly liked among gamers/hardcore ninty heads, came out the gate vastly behind the times in terms of tech and was the beginning of Nintendo losing its grip as the top dawg of the gaming industry and preluding to their precedent of not even being a contender tech wise. It had just barely beat Sega with SNES and that was basically just at the very end did they squeak by and then went two gens straight being 2nd or dead last AND not even releasing as many games as they were once known to doing so and losing major stock with 3rd party support. It's also when they started being hit or miss with their non-mario franchises, that is, if some of their franchises even came out at all anymore. It's by the grace of god that the Switch is quite success, because if it hadn't been and they went two straight gens of being vastly behind on all fronts again, they liable to have went out like Sega, whom like most of these other mentionable failures, literally never recovered after their slew of disappointments came in, back to back, gen after gen.

Sony surely got humbled PS3 gen, but they only few a few stories from the top of the mountain and pretty much climbed right back up it before the gen was even done. The others, they fell all the way to the wayside whenever they fukked up.

Right.

And it can’t even be overstated how much of a disaster the Red Ring of Death was, this is coming from someone that had 3 xbox 360’s. It was pretty much the worst hardware tech disasters of our time and microsoft had to pay out the ass to mitigate the damage. Whatever short term momentum they had during that gen was washed away due to that.

It cost microsoft over 1 billion dollars in damages.

How Microsoft spent $1 billion on a simple mistake with its best game console

The sony security hack came at the dawn of online console gaming when PlayStation online was still free. The PS3 launch was corrected when it ended up eventually becoming the cheapest blu ray player on the market. The rumble….? Lol these minor blips throughout a long ass 25+ years of sony being in the console business.

Look at the articles that were being written back then…

Can an equally-priced Blu-ray player kill off the PS3?
 
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