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And you think Cable companies are gonna be cool with that. :usure:

But knowing MS they'll raise the price of Live again to give the cable companies some kickback to keep them happy.

Theyll be dishing out xbox live subscriptions like cell phone contracts. 2 years, and fees if you quit early.
 

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And you think Cable companies are gonna be cool with that. :usure:

But knowing MS they'll raise the price of Live again to give the cable companies some kickback to keep them happy.

I've heard rumors both ways.

Some say that cable companies. Comcast in particular. Would allow their services to be streamed through Xbox. Which would allow them to reach a lot more consumers. And they would in turn subsidize the Xbox for new users to their service.

I've also heard that Microsoft is coming up with their own tv service, that would allow users to purchase only the channels or sets of channels that they want. Instead of paying for hundreds of channels they don't use.

I would be more excited about the latter option because I only watch a couple channels. Between Netflix and the espn app I would only need to subscribe to very few channels.

As for the price of live going up. I think there will be multiple tiers. One for online gaming and one for online gaming plus everything else. As long as the price isn't more than I would be paying to a cable service I think it would be a good deal.
 

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If I can play watch dogs and throw my cable box in the bushes all for under $500 I'd be a very happy camper, and I'm willing to bet millions of other consumers will agree with me.

you can play Watch Dogs on the 360 or PS3

both systems need a game(s) to really push people into the next gen. it ain't gonna be social features, streaming, Knack, or any of this advanced dvr crap
 

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you can play Watch Dogs on the 360 or PS3

both systems need a game(s) to really push people into the next gen. it ain't gonna be social features, streaming, Knack, or any of this advanced dvr crap

I just used watchdogs as an example.

And games alone are no longer sufficient in creating a compelling device. If that was the case PC gaming would be huge. I think this gen will be won on features, and mass consumer appeal. There just aren't enough hardcore gamers to fund all of the r&d that goes into making games and game systems. Video game sales have been in decline for years. Something's gonna have to come along and reverse this trend. And I think it will be the online, social and entertainment features that do it.
 

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can I play my friends games? that's all I care about I'm not paying for new games!!!!
 

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relevant:

http://adage.com/article/media/intel-cooks-future-tv-a-potential-mess-cable/240723/

Intel Cooks Up Future of TV -- a Potential Mess for Cable

Visualize the TV service you've always wanted: a gorgeous interface that does away with clunky (and often ad-strewn) programming grids; a simple remote that isn't a crushing array of buttons; a cloud-based DVR that doesn't require you to hit "record"; algorithms that learn what you like and recommend new shows; an easy sync with social networks; effortless co-viewing with friends far away; video on tablets, phones and other devices with screens; and the seamless integration of traditional TV and what's on the web.

Now imagine all of that comes in a beautiful box with a front-facing camera and the kind of industrial design that makes you not want to hide it in a cabinet.

This device is built. And it is in the hands of a select few secret testers at media companies, agencies and, of course, Intel's Santa Clara, Calif., headquarters.

About a year ago, Intel established Intel Media to build an "over-the-top" TV service, joining streaming-video players such as Netflix and Hulu. Its service, however, will be the first to deliver a full array of cable TV channels over the internet.

Intel has not announced a name, a price or a release schedule more specific than some time this year, but those who have seen it describe it as a significant advance over any existing cable or satellite platform. "I'm impressed because Intel makes chips; no one expected them to come out with a product like this," said Michael Bologna, head of advanced TV at Group M, who has spent several hours with the box.

Silicon Valley has the best interface designers in the world, but until now efforts to apply that expertise to TV have led to false starts like Google TV and products that don't go near far enough, such as Apple TV and Xbox Live. The difference between this and all previous efforts to reinvent cable TV is that Intel has taken the time and spent the money to become a cable operator itself.

As CEO Erik Huggers told attendees at the All Things D media conference in February, this isn't a service for cord-cutters or anyone who wants a cut-rate cable package. Rather, it's a better cable experience that is designed for (and will be marketed to) the kind of young, affluent and connected consumer who would like a TV service that works as well as their tablet or iPhone.

Among the many executives Mr. Huggers has hired to build Intel TV is Courtnee Westendorf, a longtime Apple marketing exec who worked on the launches of the iPod and iPhone over the past decade. She is planning a national TV campaign that will not resemble the traditional work from local cable providers.

"If I asked you about your favorite TV or film, whatever it is there is a flash of an emotion. That is what I want to deliver in the marketing," she said. There will be a new brand, but also a connection to Intel, which is an ingredient brand to consumers -- the "Intel Inside" on a host of PCs, laptops and other devices.

No one expects Intel to become a TV power overnight. But it represents an interesting challenge for cable and telcos, which as of now do not offer TV service outside their own wired footprint. Each new customer who opts for Intel TV is a customer dumping part of the "bundle" of services that cable and telcos like to sell, including broadband, TV and sometimes phone. Defecting subscribers will be relegating their cable and telco providers to "dumb pipe" status, selling connectivity and bandwidth but not services on top.

So, how will cable respond? Limiting bandwidth to make internet video services more expensive would draw the ire of the feds. So it's more likely that the cable industry will just follow Intel's lead. Tom Morgan, CEO of Net2TV, one of many startups building web-based video services, believes Intel will open the floodgates and that cable and satellite providers will, too, take their services "over the top" -- meaning you'd be able to get DirecTV, Comcast's Xfinity, Verizon's FiOS or AT&T's U-verse regardless of your broadband provider.

It may not happen this year, but soon enough, "each will go outside their network and go national," Mr. Morgan predicted. And that will lead to a world that the pay-TV-industry consumers have always wanted: one with true competition.
 

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fukk Microsoft and their All Seeing Eye mind control MKultra Illuminati bullshyt, I'll remain in the utopia of Sony
 

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I just used watchdogs as an example.

And games alone are no longer sufficient in creating a compelling device. If that was the case PC gaming would be huge. I think this gen will be won on features, and mass consumer appeal. There just aren't enough hardcore gamers to fund all of the r&d that goes into making games and game systems. Video game sales have been in decline for years. Something's gonna have to come along and reverse this trend. And I think it will be the online, social and entertainment features that do it.

I'm just saying they both need some kind of compelling launch title. "games alone" is water under the bridge since they've (well only Sony publicly) already pushed this other crap
 

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I'm just saying they both need some kind of compelling launch title. "games alone" is water under the bridge since they've (well only Sony publicly) already pushed this other crap

Yeah I can agree with that. At this point launch games will be the deciding factor for me. But I consider myself a hardcore gamer. They say only hardcore gamers buy new systems. But I think some of these social/entertainment features could bring in the casual crowd sooner than usual.
 

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I just used watchdogs as an example.

And games alone are no longer sufficient in creating a compelling device. If that was the case PC gaming would be huge. I think this gen will be won on features, and mass consumer appeal. There just aren't enough hardcore gamers to fund all of the r&d that goes into making games and game systems. Video game sales have been in decline for years. Something's gonna have to come along and reverse this trend. And I think it will be the online, social and entertainment features that do it.

:comeon: nikka......A PC can do way more than a console can. That's why the Steam Box could be huge & potentially hurt the video game console business.
 

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There's no way all of this stuff can be true. If so Microsoft is the dumbest company ever.
 

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fukk Microsoft and their All Seeing Eye mind control MKultra Illuminati bullshyt, I'll remain in the utopia of Sony

Might as well say fukk cellphones and computers as well, I mean though your concerns are some overblown ridiculousness, in the end if this was true, MS wouldnt have anymore info than all of our other devices already have on us :demonic:

THE INTERNET IS ALREADY MIND CONTROLLING CATS!!! (prime example, the reactions and fears of all these silly RUMORS)
 
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