Wut da blood clot??: The Official Miami Heat 2015-16 Offseason Thread

[He Who Posts Well]

Pat isn't going to push that button again. He made it clear that Wade will get pay. As for Dragic, he isn't going anywhere.

He will if it means getting Durant.

 

[Luke Cage]

ironically mario chalmers would've been a better fit as pg for our current system.

 

[CoCoaButterJones]

He will if it means getting Durant.

We're not getting Durant

 

[He Who Posts Well]

We're not getting Durant

Trade him anyway. Pay Wade. #WadeWave

 

[havoc]

He will if it means getting Durant.

Durant is not coming to Miami. I keep telling you dudes that is improbable. We don't have the resources to make a move for Durant especially when I our main goal is to resign Whiteside and Wade. Also, the Thunder had a successful run in the playoffs. They were one game away from entering the finals. OKC needs to make some slight adjustment to compete for the finals next season and Durant seems content with his team. I doubt he will want to go another franchise to build a title contender.

 

[OfTheCross]

 

[Makavalli]

Durant is not coming to Miami. I keep telling you dudes that is improbable. We don't have the resources to make a move for Durant especially when I our main goal is to resign Whiteside and Wade. Also, the Thunder had a successful run in the playoffs. They were one game away from entering the finals. OKC needs to make some slight adjustment to compete for the finals next season and Durant seems content with his team. I doubt he will want to go another franchise to build a title contender.

Yup. Going after Durant would also strip us of all our youth and we cant waste time yapping to him just get the crew to show up to whiteside's crib at midnight then lock him in Arison's mansion until signin day so we dont go thru some deandre bullshyt. Then get deng and also Beno for being a soldier plus he can actually run a half court offense unlike dragon.

Out of our min players i'd take green if he wants to be back cause he at least has some athleticism left unlike iso joe. Add Stokes maybe he can be our hustle draymond back up to whiteside for 15min

 

[havoc]

Yup. Going after Durant would also strip us of all our youth and we cant waste time yapping to him just get the crew to show up to whiteside's crib at midnight then lock him in Arison's mansion until signin day so we dont go thru some deandre bullshyt. Then get deng and also Beno for being a soldier plus he can actually run a half court offense unlike dragon.

Out of our min players i'd take green if he wants to be back cause he at least has some athleticism left unlike iso joe. Add Stokes maybe he can be our hustle draymond back up to whiteside for 15min

I agree but I don't want Beno back. We need add another youthful player. I'm good with TJ as the point guard if he comes back.

 

[Makavalli]

I agree but I don't want Beno back. We need add another youthful player. I'm good with TJ as the point guard if he comes back.

Beno is insurance tho bruh. The youngin would be off the bench 1st but he could learn from beno too plus we played josh at the 2 spot with drag anyway. He's a combo guard but we dont want our only back to be green lol

 

[iamduval]

I would trade dragic in a heart beat if we could fit mcbobs deal in there too. Even without durant.

 

[Primetime21]

I would trade dragic in a heart beat if we could fit mcbobs deal in there too. Even without durant.

for what?

 

[iamduval]

for what?

Maybe an expiring and a salmon sandwich

Richardson is the future. If bosh comes back we aren't playing fast anymore. Might as well get back to being a defensive team.

 

[Primetime21]

Maybe an expiring and a salmon sandwich

Richardson is the future. If bosh comes back we aren't playing fast anymore. Might as well get back to being a defensive team.

Richardson aint a point dawg. Ya'll complain about Dragic and then ignore how putrid the offense runs without him, guys standing at the top of the key doing nothing for 10-12 secs.

I'm all for making moves that improve the team. Trading Dragic to free space for a Durant caliber player, I understand that. Trading Dragic for nothing but cap space and a prayer of signing someone next summer doesn't make this a better team. I'm not wasting a single year that Wade has left on a prayer

Bosh is done, and even if he isn't he needs to come off the bench.

 

[Alexander The Great]

Asking and answering Heat questions, with NBA free agency beginning July 1:

• With the cap now projected at $94 million ($2 million more than originally expected), will the Heat have enough space to sign an impact player after potentially using most of its $42 million to re-sign Dwyane Wade and Hassan Whiteside?

Probably not. But that changes if the Heat clears out space by finding a taker for Josh McRoberts (due $5.8 million next season) or less likely, trades Goran Dragic ($15.9 million).

Other than long shots Kevin Durant and LeBron James (more on Durant below), there’s probably nobody else in this free agent class worth dumping Dragic’s salary for, because that $15.9 million isn’t going to get Al Horford, DeMar DeRozan or probably Mike Conley (who Miami likes). And the next tier of players, such as Ryan Andersen and Eric Gordon, aren’t necessarily better than Dragic.

McRoberts is another story. Finding a taker for him – and taking no money back - would give Miami potentially $9 million to $12 million or so in space after signing Wade and Whiteside, depending on what Wade and Whiteside sign for.

The Heat is expected to try to re-sign Luol Deng, but that becomes a lot more realistic if Miami can trade McRoberts and take no money back.

Other potential free agent targets in that scenario could include Jeff Green, Jared Dudley, Mirza Teletovic, Arron Afflalo, Marvin Williams, Kent Bazemore, David West, Kevin Martin, Jordan Hill and Marreese Speights, though some of those players (such as Bazemore) could command more and some of those won't command as much as $12 million.

Even if Whiteside stays, the Heat would need size if Deng and Amar’e Stoudemire leave and McRoberts is dealt. The Heat also has a $2.9 million room exception (which it could offer to Joe Johnson), but that cannot be combined with cap space.

• Yes, the odds are against signing Durant. But is there any way to sign Durant, Whiteside and Wade and fit them all under the cap?

Potentially yes. First, let’s accept that Durant likely isn’t going to accept less than his $26.4 million max, and the best way to sell Durant on the Heat would be a scenario where Whiteside is retained.

One way to achieve that: Dumping Dragic and McRoberts while taking no money back, thus giving Miami about $63 million in cap space; giving Durant a max deal; giving Whiteside a max deal (his first-year max will be $22 million) and asking Wade to take $15 million.

The other unlikely scenario: Keep Dragic, trade McRoberts, pay Durant $26.4 million, get Whiteside to take a bit under $21 million and somehow get Wade to accept a minimum deal, with the wink-wink understanding that he would get the max $35.4 million in 2017-18. It’s difficult to envision Wade accepting this.

As heathoops.com’s Albert Nahmad noted, in that scenario, Miami could exceed the cap to pay Wade a max deal in 2017 because his summer 2017 cap hold, based off that hypothetical (albeit unlikely) minimum deal next season, would be so low.

But Durant remains a long shot. He told USA Today last month: “I see great things for this team [Oklahoma City] and it’s great to be a part of it.”

• The Heat is in good position to sign Whiteside and Whiteside wants to stay if all things are equal, a close associate said. But what if the Heat doesn’t go to the max with Whiteside and another team swoops in and signs him? Then what?

We hear there would be Heat interest in Horford and Joakim Noah in that scenario (presuming it doesn’t get top target Durant or James, whom ESPN’s Stephen A. Smith said could return to Miami if Cleveland wins the title Sunday).

The Heat likes both Horford and Noah, but Whiteside remains its top choice, aside from Durant.

There are mixed views internally about free agent Dwight Howard, incidentally. But as Pat Riley said, Whiteside remains the priority and it will be somewhat surprising if Miami lets him get away.

 

[iamduval]

Richardson aint a point dawg. Ya'll complain about Dragic and then ignore how putrid the offense runs without him, guys standing at the top of the key doing nothing for 10-12 secs.

I'm all for making moves that improve the team. Trading Dragic to free space for a Durant caliber player, I understand that. Trading Dragic for nothing but cap space and a prayer of signing someone next summer doesn't make this a better team. I'm not wasting a single year that Wade has left on a prayer

Bosh is done, and even if he isn't he needs to come off the bench.

What have you heard from the team or bosh that would give you any inclination that he is done? I would say that there is a 90% chance he plays next year and if so there is no way he comes off the bench. I was asking for that last year, not gonna happen.


There are no true pgs in the nba anymore outside of unicorn cp3. Your boy dragic averaged less than 7 assists last year. He has tunnel vision going to the basket and can't defend. With richardson you have a potential elite defender, adequate playmaker, and spot up 3 point shooter.

Wade will be the primary ball handler on any team that doesn't have lebron. I have no interest in seeing him take a backseat to dragic again this year.