KILLAKUTT7
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that is one of my fav albums
when i heard la on dj muggs soul assasins on the track "devil in a blue dress" i was damnnnnnnn son is ill
i heard "heist of the century"- dude was the fukking truth
Wu-Tang affiliate Killa Sin gets 16 to Life
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that is one of my fav albums
when i heard la on dj muggs soul assasins on the track "devil in a blue dress" i was damnnnnnnn son is ill
i heard "heist of the century"- dude was the fukking truth
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no idea what's going on. i even went to the wutangcorp forums and searched for threads about killa sin, but there's no news about his situation since 2015edit: read the full article, it says "But in 2015, Killa Sin was convicted of criminal weapons possession and received a 16-years-to-life sentence. He’s currently at Sing Sing Correctional Facility in Ossining, N.Y. "
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edit: read the full article, it says "But in 2015, Killa Sin was convicted of criminal weapons possession and received a 16-years-to-life sentence. He’s currently at Sing Sing Correctional Facility in Ossining, N.Y. "
Did Martin Shkreli pay $2 million for a fake Wu-Tang Clan album?
Now, as Shkreli sits in a federal jail in Brooklyn, the fate of "Once Upon a Time in Shaolin" appears to be up in the air again. Shkreli posted the one-and-only copy to EBay last week, and the online auction for the record is scheduled to end Friday night. "I have not carefully listened to the album," Shkreli wrote in his description of the auction.
Method Man, another core member of the group. "How it became a Wu-Tang album from there? We have no knowledge of that."
Cilvaringz chose not to respond in detail to questions about the record's genesis. "The album and its concept were an evolutionary process that spanned six years, too complex to explain in a soundbite," he said in a statement. "All participating Wu-Tang artists were paid in advance while RZA and I bore the financial risk of the project."
Shkreli also declined to discuss "Once Upon a Time in Shaolin." He responded to an email earlier this week with "hahahahahahahahahahahaha" before castigating Bloomberg LP, which publishes financial data and news. "Bloomberg is an overpriced, legacy software system that subsidizes a money-losing media company," Shkreli wrote. "This state of affairs will soon change."
The accounts of Killa Sin and the representatives of U-God and Method Man echo a tale circulating on hip-hop websites: "Once Upon a Time in Shaolin" began as an undertaking by Cilvaringz, who later persuaded RZA, the de facto leader of the Wu-Tang Clan, to endorse the project and make the record more valuable. (RZA and his representatives did not respond to interview requests.)
This differs from the story given by RZA and Cilvaringz when they were auctioning the album through Paddle8, an online auction startup. The two men, who were identified during the auction as co-producers, described the album as an effort by the entire Clan to restore the value of music at a time when listeners can download almost any release without paying. They said members recorded their parts separately and that only the two producers had heard the entire finished product.
"The album was recorded in secret with the members not knowing the exact outcome," RZA said in March 2015. "But when we announced it to them that this was the plan, everybody agreed that this was a very unique idea."
Neris, who manages U-God, says the real story is that Cilvaringz gathered verses over the years from Clan members for his own projects and later stitched them together to make Once Upon a Time in Shaolin without the full group's permission. "We're very detailed about the quality and how we put our best foot forward," Neris says. "We would never have authorized anyone to put together a project and call it a Wu-Tang Clan record without us ever looking at it, hearing it, or being in the same room together. That's just the way these guys work."
U-God sued Wu-Tang Productions Inc. and RZA in New York State Supreme Court last year, saying he hadn't been paid for his work on "Once Upon a Time in Shaolin," among other things. His manager says that case is pending.
The rapper Shyheim Franklin, another member of the extended Wu-Tang network whose work has been praised by Jay-Z, tells a similar story. He says he went into a studio on Staten Island with Cilvaringz about five years ago to add verses to one of the producer's records. "He did mention it being a project he was trying to produce with everyone on it," Franklin says. "There wasn't the assumption that it would be a Wu-Tang album."
Franklin, whose name is on a track list for "Once Upon a Time in Shaolin" that has circulated online, says he can't be sure he's on the record but he'd like to find out. "I'd like my cut of that $2 million," Franklin says by telephone from Washington Correctional Facility in upstate New York, where he's serving a maximum sentence of 14 years for second-degree manslaughter.
He also wouldn't mind having a conversation with Shkreli: "Tell him there is an unreleased Shyheim album he can buy if he wants," Franklin says, laughing.
For Killa Sin, the experience has been particularly disheartening. He says he had been off the scene for a while and was looking for a way to get back in front of the public. He had previously worked with Cilvaringz, a RZA protégé, and liked his style. When he complained about the low fee Cilvaringz offered, the response underscored that this wasn't a project affiliated with one of the most beloved rap groups. "He said, 'I'm doing this all out of my pocket, and I don't have a big budget,'" Killa Sin recalls.
Killa Sin says he pressed Cilvaringz to let him hear some of the record so he could write better verses and immediately recognized old friends from the Wu-Tang Clan such as Raekwon and Inspectah Deck. "Of course," he says, "I've been associated with those guys for the better part of 20 years." He figured the Cilvaringz album would be a good one and he'd have more chances to record.
But in 2015, Killa Sin was convicted of criminal weapons possession and received a 16-years-to-life sentence. He's currently at Sing Sing Correctional Facility in Ossining, N.Y. Later that same year, RZA and Cilvaringz sold "Once Upon a Time in Shaolin" to Shkreli, who has kept the album under wraps for the most part, although he did play some of it online after the election of Donald Trump.
In a telephone call from prison, Killa Sin laments that he wasted his verses on an album that may never be heard by Wu-Tang Clan fans. He also resents the way Cilvaringz treated him and the rest of the Clan members and their affiliates.
"It's an insult," Killa Sin says. "It's like f--- everybody else. I'm going to get mine. He probably thought, 'We're onto something. We can really get some money for this.' But you got to stop and say, 'How would my brothers feel?'"
Among Wu-Tang fans, there's also been the perception of insult around the album-only it's Shkreli who supposedly denigrated the rap group by withholding the music from the public and using his control over the album to draw attention to himself. A potential juror dismissed from Shkreli's fraud trial articulated this view. "Your Honor, totally he is guilty and in no way can I let him slide out of anything," explained Juror No. 59, according to a court transcript. After the judge dismissed the candidate, Juror No. 59 added: "And he disrespected the Wu-Tang Clan."
Shkreli used the EBay auction for "Once Upon a Time in Shaolin" to express his own hurt feelings at being misunderstood. His purchase was intended to be "a gift to the Wu-Tang Clan," he wrote. "[T]he world at large failed to see my purpose of putting a serious value behind music."
The highest bid so far: $1,006,400.
hes in Sing-Sing, so it must have been a phone interview
who didnt know it was a comp? lol it was NEVER a WTC album, Cilva explained the process mad times. ppl are dumb
who didnt know it was a comp? lol it was NEVER a WTC album, Cilva explained the process mad times. ppl are dumb
SonnyDecay
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yeah it was a phone conversation, so was shyheim's bit 
we are never getting that killa sin solo album
we are never getting that killa sin solo album
ZEB WALTON
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Na cilva and rza were going iut there sayingvthe idea was conceived in egypt in shyt.
Im glad ugod suing and sin mad and all that. Cuz ringz pulled the snake move of the century.
Ringz deleting the thread and being very careful what he says tells me he never wanted an article like this out
yeah it was a phone conversation, so was shyheim's bit
Why isnt he out, from the looks of things it was self defence..
Shyheim, another sad story..
He shot dude 6 times in the chest. They don't see that as self defense. He wasn't even suppose to have a gun.Why isnt he out, from the looks of things it was self defence..
Shyheim, another sad story..
Killa Sin low-key one of the best to ever do it.
Burger King
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a prison free killa sin solo back with prime rza and wu elements production would have been a classic
Cilva is a mod at Wu Tang Corp he's been deleting threads and posts related to the album
edit: read the full article, it says "But in 2015, Killa Sin was convicted of criminal weapons possession and received a 16-years-to-life sentence. He’s currently at Sing Sing Correctional Facility in Ossining, N.Y. "