WR separation & QB accuracy when open chart says a LOT more about QB than many care about
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AlbertPullhoez
The Takeover
If the O-Line keeps protecting like they did on Monday night he should keep playing great.
Vikings got two great tackles they really kept Bosa in check all night.
The chart and open reciever shyt doesnt tell me if a qb is good or not in totality. Those are an ancillary figures that tend remove many factors.
Field vision (what the defense has planned) , accuracy in tight windows, going through progressions, being able to move the pocket and complete positive yard passes, all to me are better indicators. Again not all encompassing.
But those things provide me a better understanding if a qb is good.
Field vision (what the defense has planned) , accuracy in tight windows, going through progressions, being able to move the pocket and complete positive yard passes, all to me are better indicators. Again not all encompassing.
But those things provide me a better understanding if a qb is good.
Analytics provides a small glimpse of data points, OP or anyone inserting their opinion “good or bad” based on a few data points it ain’t snd doesn’t provide the full picture. That’s the reason why I think cats hate on analytics.
Lowkey nasty work
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
there is no end all data. And not a single person professed that in here But its clear that some qbs are stuck playing with garbage receiving cores and OPs that almost 100% of the time put qbs in bad situations
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NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
I don’t care who the quarterback is. If your receivers cannot get separation, whether by their own ability or schemed to get open, your quarterback is going to suffer.
The garbage Chiefs receiving core finally catching up to Patrick
The garbage Chiefs receiving core finally catching up to Patrick
Mahomes's own flaws are showing up more though
Too much hero ball and reliabce on scrambling instead of just throwing on time with proper mechanics
NYC Rebel
...on the otherside of the pond
Which is a result of these guys inability to get open. A lot of quarterbacks reveal their true selves in these situation and ass. And then you have quarterbacks who are always in these situation for much of their careers.
You have many quarterbacks in the league who play in Patrick’s situation every game and are putting up the same fukked up results.. The quarterback position really depends so much on good personnel and scheme.
Yes that's true too
This chart makes perfect sense for Minshew. He does not miss open WRs but he's worthless if there's any kind of pressure or in tough situations. Colts have a pretty good o-line and decent weapons so they've been able to hover around .500 ... but he's a limited QB and can't wait until he's gone/on the bench.
Example: Minshew looked like ass yesterday, he was under pressure + Pittman was out injured.
Ain't That Something
Superstar
To be fair I'm watching Mahomes put shyt right on these guys hand and they dropping it like a game of hot potatoes. Not to excuse his careless turnovers either
threattonature
Veteran
Exactly. Damn near half of his INTs were balls that bounced off his WRs hands. Not to mention that even with the lack of separation if the WRs weren't dropping everything he'd still be having a great year stat wise. The drops have lead the offense to be in more desperate situations and Mahomes trying to force things. With some of these guys even when guys finally get open they're inaccurate as hell or don't know how to buy time or manipulate defenses to try and create openings. Even though Mahomes was garbage today and that loss is 100% on his shoulders.
“Hero ball” is another term used exclusively by white neck beards. Mahomes is trying to make a play and looks like his receivers aren’t open. Chiefs messed up trying to recreate 2023 Thrash Stinkton and FedEx. Not gonna work in this league.
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Ain't That Something
Superstar
shyt I would argue that Mahomes don't use his legs nearly enough. He left a lot of 1st downs on the field by trying to force feed guys instead of picking it up with his legs
DropTopDoc
20/20 Vision With my Buffs On
This here is supa facts, folks either start cutting corners or believe in the system/qb more than actual competent pieces, idk their cap situation but you keep a hill, you go after obj you keep juju because he’s serviceable
Pat has flaws like all, but it ain’t hero ball, that nikka having to do that shyt cuz ain’t no one helping him