Would You Send Your Son To This Camp If He Asked?

[The 2020 New Member]

Dat first photo...damn....made me kinda cringe. Maybe I could fukk with it if my child really felt that way strongly and it would make them happy but i'm just wondering why's that shyt only for boys? Isn't this supposed to be gender nonconforming? So where are the girls then, is there a camp for them to do the same? Would have thought it would be a bit more open to that and makes me wonder about the camp itself. I definitely wouldn't send my kid there though. Son I love you, and I appreciate you telling me this..but I don't trust you THAT much.
Lol, if it isn't already obvious i wanna see that kid at least 16 before he makes any kind of firm decision like that on his sexuality.

exactly. and for some people it is a really subtle thing. they don't fit the stereotype at all and they might not even come to terms or understand their sexual preference until their 40s.

 

[88m3]

In the end we're all going to FEMA Concentration Camps, so does it matter?

 

[Blackout]

These kids are just begging to be teased and bullied for the rest of their lives.

Kids are cruel, don't give them a reason when you can easily avoid it.

 

[Odyssey]

The progressives must destroy and rob young men of their heroic masculine spirit by sending them to social and gender reengineering camps. They do this in the interest of a progressive state who does not want masculine men, as superior, morally masculine men are the enemy of any societal control mechanism. If the progressive state and far-left can remove these young boys spirits from the faith of their fathers and replace it with marxism and progressive theory, then of course they will be able to control the state and the people.

The progressives speak out of both sides of their mouths, you will find this when they discuss any issue, race, sex, gender, class. They say gender is a social construct yet they send little boys to camps to reinforce female gender stereotypes. This is the sickness of applying critical theory to biology.

We must reconnect these boys with their true fathers.

Achilles
Hector
Homer
Zeus
Thor
Aeneas - The Father of Western Civilization.

Then, and only then, will the progressives, feminists, marxists and critical theorists know the true spirit, the exalted soul of masculinity.

“All government, in its essence, is a conspiracy against the superior man: its one permanent object is to oppress him and cripple him. If it be aristocratic in organization, then it seeks to protect the man who is superior only in law against the man who is superior in fact; if it be democratic, then it seeks to protect the man who is inferior in every way against both. One of its primary functions is to regiment men by force, to make them as much alike as possible and as dependent upon one another as possible, to search out and combat originality among them. All it can see in an original idea is potential change, and hence an invasion of its prerogatives. The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself, without regard to the prevailing superstitions and taboos. Almost inevitably he comes to the conclusion that the government he lives under is dishonest, insane and intolerable, and so, if he is romantic, he tries to change it. And even if he is not romantic personally he is very apt to spread discontent among those who are.”

 

[Liu Kang]

Like I said earlier, I think people are born this way, I really do

BUT

At the age that some of these kids are, some of them still think they can fly, have super powers and/or be dinosaurs. Now you telling me they have the capacity to understand neurophysiology and biology? fukk out of here.

Future Gays and Trannies are a small portion of all births. I have no problem raising children in their set gender roles until they have the maturity to understand who/what they are but it sure as fukk aint at the age of some of these kids.

If my son came up to me at age 16-18 and told me he was gay or wanted to be a tranny, I'd be upset and disappointed, but I would tell him I love him and that if he really truly felt that way, he has to live the life that will make him the happiest. But if my 7 year old son or 12 year old son came up to me and said he wanted to wear a sundress to school, I might have to shoot the fade with him right there on the spot.

Agree. This young, nothing is definite yet.
It's good to be progressive and accept transgender and homosexual people but acting like a 7yo (or even younger, the article says 3 !) will definitely be gay is retarded. At this age, as you said, they try, they dream, they evolve.
If he wants to wear a dress for fun, why not, but sending him to a camp where he will be told it's because he's a LGBT kid is just wrong.

They do seem to be happy though (even if we can say if it's because the camera's here but still). I just hope they won't be confined in a gender role that early because of that camp where they were supposedly let to be themselves. Being oneself that early doesn't really make sense.
Although, if that camp was about teens I may have agreed with it.

 

[NZA]

im all for people finding themselves, but not at camp. the risk of turning confusion, curiosity, or just eccentricity into a path that you feel you have to follow is too high because really young kids are way too underdeveloped to even make sense of their own thoughts on serious matters like this. like others have said, once they are a teen, they pretty much know what is going on with them. even if they arent totally sure by that point they at least have a better understanding of all the ramifications of choosing to dress like that.

 

[The Real]

depends on how old/obvious he was. more than likely not. i'm sure this will bring a lot of funny reactions but i see it as something that is just as crazy as all those jesus camps, teaching fairly tails and PROGRAMMING children to feel a certain way. i'd have to look more into it and if it was going to make him happy and the camp was legit, who am i to deny him.

it's not like their going to cut his dikk off that day or anything, right? it's just fun in dresses?

I feel the same way. There isn't enough info about the camp to make a clear judgment. If it really is true that the parents are there the whole time and not pressuring their kids, but it's more of an open environment, then it might not be bad for some kids. Seeing as this seems to serve a large spectrum of people, it would also have to depend on the kid. As of right now, the psychological literature we have on the subject states that most trans people know they're trans by the time they're 4 or 5 years old. A camp like this, under the right conditions, might be ok for them. Again, though, more information would be necessary.

In general, though, I'm fine with children being allowed to express themselves. If a little boy wants to play with girls' toys on his own, it doesn't mean he's going to be gay or trans or whatever. Parents shouldn't stop them, or immediately assume it's some kind of sign that warrants overbearing behavior, either in the direction of reinforcing stereotypical masculinity or steering them towards some stereotypically feminine homosexuality.

 

[Type Username Here]

As of right now, the psychological literature we have on the subject states that most trans people know they're trans by the time they're 4 or 5 years old. A camp like this, under the right conditions, might be ok for them. Again, though, more information would be necessary.

sources?

 

[The Real]

sources?

Here are a few links I was able to find on the subject (I tried to link only reputable sources):

Gender Identity and Gender Confusion In Children - HealthyChildren.org


PPP: Child Growth & Development || Ages & Stages || How children understand gender

Answers to your Questions About Transgender People, Gender Identity, and Gender Expression


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/opinion/sunday/sunday-dialogue-our-notions-of-gender.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


The basic idea is that children in general are aware of gender (not to be confused with sexuality) very early, so a transgender child's awareness of their gender kicks in at the same time as everyone else.

 

[Type Username Here]

Here are a few links I was able to find on the subject (I tried to link only reputable sources):

Gender Identity and Gender Confusion In Children - HealthyChildren.org


PPP: Child Growth & Development || Ages & Stages || How children understand gender

Answers to your Questions About Transgender People, Gender Identity, and Gender Expression


http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/30/opinion/sunday/sunday-dialogue-our-notions-of-gender.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0


The basic idea is that children in general are aware of gender (not to be confused with sexuality) very early, so a transgender child's awareness of their gender kicks in at the same time as everyone else.

Thank you, I read over the first three. About to the read the NY Times one in a minute. Do you by any chance happen to have a peer-reviewed journal? A lot of what you linked me sounds scientifically shaky, especially considering they reference papers that call it "mental disorders" and "gender disorders" but mention no specifics on the follow:

As of right now, the psychological literature we have on the subject states that most trans people know they're trans by the time they're 4 or 5 years old.

Not saying you're wrong, but I would like to read something more concrete.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Nah not at all. Even if he was gay I wouldn't allow him to participate in this type of fukkery.

Genders exist no amount of tolerance or progressiveness can change that fact.

 

[The Real]

Thank you, I read over the first three. About to the read the NY Times one in a minute. Do you by any chance happen to have a peer-reviewed journal? A lot of what you linked me sounds scientifically shaky, especially considering they reference papers that call it "mental disorders" and "gender disorders" but mention no specifics on the follow:



Not saying you're wrong, but I would like to read something more concrete.

I've read some before. I'll look and see if I can dig any up. In the meantime, though, the links above all are certified by either the American Academy of Pediatrics or the American Psychological Association, though except for the Purdue link, which comes from the research university of the same name.

 

[Shogun]

would i send my son there if he asked?

no

 

[feelosofer]

I wouldn't promote my son crosssdressing unless he was old enough to articulate that he wants to go in that direction, because human sexuality is complicated as are gender roles. I would raise my son, as a boy unless he says otherwise. I think that people psychology affects what gender roles in a complicated manner but I think that camps like these are not meant for children that are at such an impressionable age. I wouldn't consider a camp like that until maybe 11-12 years old.

 

[Bud Bundy]

if my son liked to wear dresses and was teased about constantly by his peers and i had the money sure why not. I would not like that but children rebel against there parents and if peer pressure from there peer group did not get him to stop wearing a dress then i guess that is what he likes and I would just have to deal with it.