Would we have wack ass Beyonce if Aaliyah didnt die?

[JustCKing]

Look at Aaliyah's sales in 2001. She already hit her peak and was on the downswing of her career. She was struggling to go gold in an era where everyone was selling platinum plus. Her lead single for her album that year peaked at at #59 on Billboard which was horrible for an artist of her caliber. Meanwhile Beyonce was killing it with Destiny's Child. You can make the argument that she was already bigger than Aaliyah at that point.

This is a myth.

1) Aaliyah's album went gold in under a month. That isn't struggling. She sold 180K the first week.

2) This myth that everybody was going platinum in 2001 is laughable. Puff, Foxy, and a bunch of artists who were platinum prior weren't going platinum in 2001.

3) Her having a lead single that peaked at #59 on the charts and her still pulling off 180K the first week compounds the fact that she wasn't struggling.

 

[JustCKing]

And let's just put Aaliyah's numbers in persepctive, Usher, who was much bigger than Aaliyah sold like 30K more than Aaliyah in his first week with a bigger single in "U Remind Me".

 

[AMcV'88]

put this question to Dame Dash for the fukkery

 

[bigde09]

This is a myth.

1) Aaliyah's album went gold in under a month. That isn't struggling. She sold 180K the first week.

2) This myth that everybody was going platinum in 2001 is laughable. Puff, Foxy, and a bunch of artists who were platinum prior weren't going platinum in 2001.

3) Her having a lead single that peaked at #59 on the charts and her still pulling off 180K the first week compounds the fact that she wasn't struggling.

Why did her single flop? Compare her album sales to Survivor that year and it's not even close.

 

[R=G]

The original Destiny's Child is how Beyonce blew up. Aaliyah, Christina Aguilera, Britney Spears, Adele even..they blew up by themselves. Simple as that. That's fact.

 

[JustCKing]

Why did her single flop? Compare her album sales to Survivor that year and it's not even close.

"We Need A Resolution" wasn't the typical single especially in 2001. "Try Again" worked. This one didn't, it was more uptempo with one of those Middle Eastern samples. This was a sound that was already embraced in Hip Hop, but was new to R&B, and thanks to "Get Ur Freak On" (which dropped the same year), and "Big Pimpin", mainstream was just beginning to warm up to that sound.

Breh, Survivor outsold every R&B album that year that wasn't Alicia Keys' Songs In A Minor. Michael Jackson dropped Invincible the same year and it outsold that too. Outsold Janet too. And Survivor STILL sold half of what Destiny's Child's previous 1999 album sold. Destiny's Child, as a group, was on the downside of their career as well. Either way, what Destiny's Child did as a group =/= Beyonce.

 

[bigde09]

"We Need A Resolution" wasn't the typical single especially in 2001. "Try Again" worked. This one didn't, it was more uptempo with one of those Middle Eastern samples. This was a sound that was already embraced in Hip Hop, but was new to R&B, and thanks to "Get Ur Freak On" (which dropped the same year), and "Big Pimpin", mainstream was just beginning to warm up to that sound.

Breh, Survivor outsold every R&B album that year that wasn't Alicia Keys' Songs In A Minor. Michael Jackson dropped Invincible the same year and it outsold that too. Outsold Janet too. And Survivor STILL sold half of what Destiny's Child's previous 1999 album sold. Destiny's Child, as a group, was on the downside of their career as well. Either way, what Destiny's Child did as a group =/= Beyonce.

Aaliyah's own record label said her sales were sluggish and not what they wanted that year.

 

[JustCKing]

Aaliyah's own record label said her sales were sluggish and not what they wanted that year.

Blackground Records was trash. I can see them wanting more for their flagship artist, but it's partly their fault she died in that crash. They were rushing to pump out singles even though "We Need A Resolution" was out MONTHS before the album dropped. Then they finally started to push "Rock The Boat" and "More Than A Woman" AT THE SAME TIME. She died in that crash after shooting videos for two songs. Your artist is Gold within a month on the strength of a single that peaked at #59 that had been out for months, but as label you're claiming the sales are sluggish. Not to mention, that her doing 180K in her first week was her biggest first week.

 

[JustCKing]

And I also want to add that, Aaliyah even after death did the same numbers she did while she was alive. Her third and final album was Gold BEFORE she died off the strength of ONE single that peaked at #59. She sold 180K in her first week, her biggest first week.

While Aaliyah dying in that crash definitely caused her final album to sell faster because it was brand new, the trajectory was headed towards her going 2X Platinum any way. They still had yet to drop "Rock The Boat", "More Than A Woman", and "I Care 4 U" as singles. She died in the middle of an album cycle.

 

[Big Blue]

And I also want to add that, Aaliyah even after death did the same numbers she did while she was alive. Her third and final album was Gold BEFORE she died off the strength of ONE single that peaked at #59. She sold 180K in her first week, her biggest first week.

While Aaliyah dying in that crash definitely caused her final album to sell faster because it was brand new, the trajectory was headed towards her going 2X Platinum any way. They still had yet to drop "Rock The Boat", "More Than A Woman", and "I Care 4 U" as singles. She died in the middle of an album cycle.

Correct. Thanks to her producers and songwriters. RIP Static

 

[JustCKing]

Correct. Thanks to her producers and songwriters. RIP Static

That Aaliyah album was the biggest album Rapture and E. Seats worked on. I don't think they went on to do much if anything after that album. Static had nothing to do with "I Care 4 U". Missy wrote that song and Timbaland produced it... in 1996. It was originally slated for the One In A Million album, but re-recorded and placed on Aaliyah in 2001.

 

[Big Blue]

That Aaliyah album was the biggest album Rapture and E. Seats worked on. I don't think they went on to do much if anything after that album. Static had nothing to do with "I Care 4 U". Missy wrote that song and Timbaland produced it... in 1996. It was originally slated for the One In A Million album, but re-recorded and placed on Aaliyah in 2001.

Timbaland produced all of her hits, period. Missy and Static wrote them.

 

[JustCKing]

Timbaland produced all of her hits, period. Missy and Static wrote them.

This is a lie.

"The One I Gave My Heart To" had nothing to do with any of them. It was the highest charting single from the One In A Million album.

Every song from her 1994 debut, Age Ain't Nothing But A Number" was produced and written by R. Kelly.

"I Don't Wanna" was produced by Donnie Scantz and Kevin Hicks. It was written by Johnta Austin and Jazze Pha.

How many hit songs were produced by Timbaland before working with Aaliyah?

I'll wait. Missy only had like one hit song she'd written prior to her work on One In A Million and that's 702's "Steelo". "If Your Girl Only Knew" came out the same year and "If Your Girl" was bigger and that album was bigger than 702's.

 

[Big Blue]

This is a lie.

"The One I Gave My Heart To" had nothing to do with any of them. It was the highest charting single from the One In A Million album.

Every song from her 1994 debut, Age Ain't Nothing But A Number" was produced and written by R. Kelly.

"I Don't Wanna" was produced by Donnie Scantz and Kevin Hicks. It was written by Johnta Austin and Jazze Pha.

How many hit songs were produced by Timbaland before working with Aaliyah?

I'll wait. Missy only had like one hit song she'd written prior to her work on One In A Million and that's 702's "Steelo". "If Your Girl Only Knew" came out the same year and "If Your Girl" was bigger and that album was bigger than 702's.

Aaliyah had 6 Gold or Platinum Records.
4 of them were produced by Timbaland.

Aaliyah's #1 record? Only Platinum record? Produced by Timbaland, written by Static.

How many hit songs did TImbo produce after Aaliyah??? I'll wait too

 

[JustCKing]

Aaliyah had 6 Gold or Platinum Records.
4 of them were produced by Timbaland.

Aaliyah's #1 record? Only Platinum record? Produced by Timbaland, written by Static.

How many hit songs did TImbo produce after Aaliyah??? I'll wait too

That is not the same is ALL of her hits being produced by Timbaland.

It doesn't matter how many hit songs he produced after Aaliyah. The whole point is that working with Aaliyah is what gave him and Missy a platform to produce and write hit songs. One In A Million was pretty much their introduction to the world. That is the point. After that album, a lot of artists went to Timbaland and Missy for hits. These are FACTS. They were dominating Urban music because of their work with Aaliyah.