WCW should have never died
People have to get it through their heads that the WCW died because of financial/economic reasons beyond their control.
All the shyt with AOL x Turner killed it while they were in the middle of beating the WWF
Would a WCW Brand Split in 1998 have worked?
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People have to get it through their heads that the WCW died because of financial/economic reasons beyond their control.
All the shyt with AOL x Turner killed it while they were in the middle of beating the WWF
TBF Hoegan was the hail mary along with Nitro. WCW was on a downward slope, especially coming from the collapse of the NWA.
In my eye, I desired the 94 roster before Hoegan, but realistically that's not going to put butts into seats. Bad enough Rick Rude got put on the shelf and that leads Vader, Steve (whom should have been pushed to the moon), Dustin, Stink, Steamboat, and the rest.
Workrate wise
, but on filling up venues...not so much.They do it because it's convenient and people still get off on shyt flinging
But even if the dot com bubble didn't bust now that Ted was powerless, AOLTurner wanted off WCW and wrestling bad and still would've sold. Especially with the ratings in the toilet at that point
Harsh reality says WCW never stood a chance even before 2001 and each time it was the parent company's fault. Ted wanted ad dollars even though nobody in charge of wrestling wanted the strain from a second show, Thunder came and creative tanked. While WCW was spiraling down the drain multiple companies stepped up and offered to buy and got rejected by Turner. A Turner exec with no wrestling experience had final say over creative on a wrestling show whenever there was a stalemate between Eric/Vince. And at the end, Bischoff & The Jarretts raised more money than Vince paid, but Turner gave it to Vince and cancelled TV while telling buyers like Bischoff's group they still wanted TV rights.
None of that has to do with finger poke of doom, crash tv, NWO 2000, all other horseshyt. They got screwed over at every turn
This just trying to shift blame.
No matter what... WCW was always a lazy product with the only thing it had was throwing money at the problem.
They took away the money and it was exactly the product that it always was....Even if they kept WCW alive. It would of died on its own probably a few years down the road.
Just like TNA... People don't care for their terrible brand of wrestling regardless of cruiserweight and etc.
Where's it getting shifted lol
I said the ratings were on the floor and creative was in the toilet. You can't say for sure what would've happened because you don't know who would've owned it. But yes, it's obviously safe to say if it was kept alive and on Turner with the same set up, it would've died out
It's been decades, there's 3rd party accounts as well as Ted Turner's own about what they did to WCW after squeezing him out so there's nothing to argue and only comes down to what you believe
I'll take the word from people that lived it and the owner of Turner vs people living off dirt sheets
Art Barr
INVADING SOHH CHAMPION
As long as Mr toy goof ass was running wcw.
Nuffin was going to keep what happened from happening. As bischoff never knew wtf Vince knew from long term booking and poltlitical shyt with the orange goblin.
That it was only a matter of time. Before hogan's political bullshyt and lack of quality markers. Would eventually ruin wcw all together. This why vkm no longer.
had hogun and knew since Mania four. That you need to add quality workrate to make hogun have real drawing legs. In that long term ideal. Vkm basically setup wcw to fail. As it was run by a complete fraud in Mr toy.
Art Barr
Nuffin was going to keep what happened from happening. As bischoff never knew wtf Vince knew from long term booking and poltlitical shyt with the orange goblin.
That it was only a matter of time. Before hogan's political bullshyt and lack of quality markers. Would eventually ruin wcw all together. This why vkm no longer.
had hogun and knew since Mania four. That you need to add quality workrate to make hogun have real drawing legs. In that long term ideal. Vkm basically setup wcw to fail. As it was run by a complete fraud in Mr toy.
Art Barr
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no. They were running 3 hours every monday...plus 2 hours for Thunder and another hour for Saturday. With the crash tv pace the Attitude Era had...and the reduced schedules that alot of WCW talent had...they didnt really have an issue with talent being showcased. And I think an NWO only show and an NWO-less show would have both stunk. And ultimately nothing would have saved the company from folding.
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