World's oldest rock found in W. Australia; 4.374 billion years

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What am I denying friend? I havent stated ONE TIME in this thread that their findings were correct or incorrect. Im simply waiting for how you know they're findings are accurate? You dont know? :mjlol:
you have clearly taken a position in denying the truth behind science, dont try and bytch out now because you look like a dummy. if you watched the entire process while the scientists explained to you what they were doing you still wouldnt believe them because you think you are smarter than everyone because you are that type of dumb guy. you keep asking the same thing over and over again and every time someone responds you arent satisfied with the answer. saying how do you know? how do you know? over and over again makes you look immature and lets everyone know that you are not educated. so keep asking again, maybe someone will give you an answer and you can continue your awful religious/atheist argument allegory you have going on.
 

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:ehh: That was my point.



Yes sir. That was me. Except my posts were not full of namecalling and ridiculing. So that I dont get compelled to return your namecalling/disses/ridicules with some of the same, I dont respond to it. I dont like that behavior friend even if I disgree with your take on life I wont curse you :ehh:

When you prove me wrong, you can call me whatever name you want.

What a great point you've made while disregarding the rest of the post. Now that you've made your point, can you point out where scientists are wrong today?
 

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you have clearly taken a position in denying the truth behind science, dont try and bytch out now because you look like a dummy. if you watched the entire process while the scientists explained to you what they were doing you still wouldnt believe them because you think you are smarter than everyone because you are that type of dumb guy. you keep asking the same thing over and over again and every time someone responds you arent satisfied with the answer. saying how do you know? how do you know? over and over again makes you look immature and lets everyone know that you are not educated. so keep asking again, maybe someone will give you an answer and you can continue your awful religious/atheist argument allegory you have going on.

the ether that makes a soul burn slow :wow:
 

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you have clearly taken a position in denying the truth behind science, dont try and bytch out now because you look like a dummy. if you watched the entire process while the scientists explained to you what they were doing you still wouldnt believe them because you think you are smarter than everyone because you are that type of dumb guy. you keep asking the same thing over and over again and every time someone responds you arent satisfied with the answer. saying how do you know? how do you know? over and over again makes you look immature and lets everyone know that you are not educated.

Where have I denied the "truth behind science"? I believe I can speak for myself. What I asked you my brethren, is how do you know that the measurements of age are accurate? Do you not have an answer? Saying "they're smarter than me" is a weak position to take. Because as my analogy exemplified, your parents were not always right when you were a child. So taking the position "they're accurate because they're smarter than me" clearly does not work friend. I keep asking when one doesnt answer my question or skates around my question. Thats what you've been doing this whole thread. Then when you gave the weak answer above, I responded as to why that its weak. Then came the quote that Im a child. Then more insults :mjlol: But Im the guy that thinks Im smarter than others?

So while we're on that, where did I claim to be smarter than anyone? Seems like you're projecting friend. Maybe its you that thinks hes smarter than others since you have to down someone to prop yourself up? :mjpls:
 

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When you prove me wrong, you can call me whatever name you want.

You didnt prove me wrong friend. I said people blindly follow religion like people blindly follow science. You agreed remember?

Blindly following religion is a sign of ignorance. Blindly following science is not.

That was my point from the beginning (or maybe second post?).

What a great point you've made while disregarding the rest of the post. Now that you've made your point, can you point out where scientists are wrong today?

I dont know friend. Science is debating over a variety of topics at the moment, so Im not sure why you're acting as if its a solidarity entity that moves as one :rudy:
 

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Where have I denied the "truth behind science"? I believe I can speak for myself. What I asked you my brethren, is how do you know that the measurements of age are accurate? Do you not have an answer? Saying "they're smarter than me" is a weak position to take. Because as my analogy exemplified, your parents were not always right when you were a child. So taking the position "they're accurate because they're smarter than me" clearly does not work friend. I keep asking when one doesnt answer my question or skates around my question. Thats what you've been doing this whole thread. Then when you gave the weak answer above, I responded as to why that its weak. Then came the quote that Im a child. Then more insults :mjlol: But Im the guy that thinks Im smarter than others?

So while we're on that, where did I claim to be smarter than anyone? Seems like you're projecting friend. Maybe its you that thinks hes smarter than others since you have to down someone to prop yourself up? :mjpls:
so you arent denying science but you are saying that the scientists cant prove anything accurately when it comes to dating organic material? and even if they could, then I myself, who is not a scientist, could not figure them out on my own?? oh ok moron. thanks for writing all that stuff, im sure you are feeling like you are winning an argument right now because you have no idea what the fukk you are talking about.
 

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That doesnt mean they're correct friend. Unless you believe your parents were ALWAYS correct when they were older than you while you were a child. You dont/didnt believe that did you?

Why are you comparing children with no knowledge of the world to scientists that have spent their entire lives studying a subject? Do you not realize this is a terrible comparison? I'll put it in a religious context so you can understand. A Priest/Bishop/Pope who has spent his entire life studying scripture is more likely to be informed and more knowledgeable about the Bible than you are, correct? Same principles apply. Those scientists that spent their entire lives studying the subject are much more knowledgable than the rest of us and have a much higher probability of being correct than the common man, like yourself.

Matthew 18:3

And he said: "Truly I tell you, unless you change and become like little children, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.

:mjlol: Naw but Im not asking for proof. Have you seen me ask for proof to prove that their findings are correct? I've been asking you how YOU know that their findings are accurate? So far all I've gotten is that they're smarter than me so somehow that means they're findings are accurate. This is a terrible position to take, but then again its a similar position to what religious folk take in respect to their religions :mjpls:

Why do you keep going back to this stance? "I've been asking YOU how you know their findings are accurate". I've posted on page 4 or 5 exactly how we know they are right. We can take science classes and apply mathematics to find the accurate estimated dates. Its a process that can be replicated. Its a process that can be taught. It is a process that can be discovered on its own without outside help. If you know the basic fundamentals of how the world works, you can be isolated and still come to the same conclusion as these scientists.

It is not even close to being the same as religion. Religion cannot be proven. It cannot be replicated. If you were isolated from the rest of the world, you would not have the same findings as those in the Bible. It just doesn't work. Thats why we are all frustrated by your ignorance. You are either trolling really hard to piss us off or you just really don't understand the concept of science. Maybe you just enjoy living with ignorance. It must be very blissful for you to live your life in that manner.
 

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so you arent denying science but you are saying that the scientists cant prove anything accurately when it comes to dating organic material?

No Im asking how when they come to their conclusion do YOU KNOW THEY'RE accurate? You dont know do you?
I myself, who is not a scientist, could not figure them out on my own??

Yes I believe this to be true though it was not the point I was making.

oh ok moron.

More insults :mjpls:

thanks for writing all that stuff, im sure you are feeling like you are winning an argument right now because you have no idea what the fukk you are talking about.


Or maybe you're projecting how you feel about this argument onto me? :mjpls:
 

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No Im asking how when they come to their conclusion do YOU KNOW THEY'RE accurate? You dont know do you?

as i have pointed out several times now Im not a scientist who is an expert in radioactive dating, so no. these scientists believe it or not do these tests multiple times before the report what they have found. they were probably really excited to have found a rock this old and they reported it to the media, then butt hurt christians like you read the article and feel like it is an attack on your religion and get all defensive and start making arguments against the findings that barley make sense.
 

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Why are you comparing children with no knowledge of the world to scientists that have spent their entire lives studying a subject? Do you not realize this is a terrible comparison?

Im simply showing that because someone is "smarter" (which is subjective) doesnt mean they're correct. And I provided an example where this is true.
I'll put it in a religious context so you can understand. A Priest/Bishop/Pope who has spent his entire life studying scripture is more likely to be informed and more knowledgeable about the Bible than you are, correct?

In correct. Just because they "study scripture" does not mean they're studying correctly. Which is why they're are protestants vs catholics that have priests, bishops etc... that study the same scripture but come to different conclusions. In short, they're being taught a certain way to look at scripture and thats how they view it during their study.

Same principles apply. Those scientists that spent their entire lives studying the subject are much more knowledgable than the rest of us and have a much higher probability of being correct than the common man, like yourself.

I didnt say they werent more knowledgeable on the subject. :what:

Why do you keep going back to this stance? "I've been asking YOU how you know their findings are accurate". I've posted on page 4 or 5 exactly how we know they are right. We can take science classes and apply mathematics to find the accurate estimated dates. Its a process that can be replicated. Its a process that can be taught. It is a process that can be discovered on its own without outside help. If you know the basic fundamentals of how the world works, you can be isolated and still come to the same conclusion as these scientists.

And yet you do not know how these mathematics automatically lead one to know that what they find is accurate... My point all along friend. Just because something is taught does not make it correct. Just because they apply to a "mathematical formula" that "leads" us to the age of the object, does not mean that the mathematical formula is correct. It does not mean that the answer to the mathematical formula is correct. If it did, you would have answered my question directly.
It is not even close to being the same as religion. Religion cannot be proven. It cannot be replicated. If you were isolated from the rest of the world, you would not have the same findings as those in the Bible. It just doesn't work. Thats why we are all frustrated by your ignorance. You are either trolling really hard to piss us off or you just really don't understand the concept of science. Maybe you just enjoy living with ignorance. It must be very blissful for you to live your life in that manner.

You're a jew. There are ways to verify if the God of your people exists or not. But it takes faith. And not everyone wants to have faith. :manny: Their loss...
 

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as i have pointed out several times now Im not a scientist who is an expert in radioactive dating, so no.

So you dont know if they're accurate right? Just to get you on record as saying this. You do not know if they're accurate but have faith that they are because they are scientists that follow the scientific method right?

these scientists believe it or not do these tests multiple times before the report what they have found. they were probably really excited to have found a rock this old and they reported it to the media, then butt hurt christians like you read the article and feel like it is an attack on your religion and get all defensive and start making arguments against the findings that barley make sense.

Im not hurt at this finding. I was just wondering how people automatically assume they're correct when (allegedly) they do not believe anything unless it has proof. I would think proof would consist more than a title (scientist) but I guess not :manny:
 

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evolution doesn't talk about the origin of life.

Evolution explains the change and diversity of life.
When you start talking about going from lizards to human beings and things of that nature, you're talking on pseudoscience and it shouldnt be taught since its not observable.
 
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