With "The Cloud" on the horizon will the PS4 stifle innovation?

[MeachTheMonster]

what i mean is they needed to sell more xbox ones so they could be market leader and force conformity. they didnt do it so that's their problem.

That means absolutely nothing. It still would be asking devs to ignore 80million gamers.

Market leader or not, they wouldn't do it

 

[Rekkapryde]

They can, but not as good as Xbox since MS has Azure already established. Sony has roughly 15K servers worldwide to use for cloud processing....MS got over 200K

Really not a fair comparison

 

[NZA]

That means absolutely nothing. It still would be asking devs to ignore 80million gamers.

Market leader or not, they wouldn't do it

this is asinine. it is up to each company to make its vision become reality. when nintendo's odd controller works, they get games made for it. when it fails, they dont get those games. it's as simple as that. you dont collude with your competition to design features for your own product.

anyway, they can count PCs as market share if they need it

 

[MeachTheMonster]

this is asinine. it is up to each company to make its vision become reality. when nintendo's odd controller works, they get games made for it. when it fails, they dont get those games. it's as simple as that. you dont collude with your competition to design features for your own product.

anyway, they can count PCs as market share if they need it

Which is why almost every proprietary hardware device has failed. Devs want to aim at the widest market possible.

Wii had the market on lock, but 3rd parties still didn't make motion controls an integral part of their games cause Playstaion and Xbox users wouldn't/couldn't buy them.

 

[Dat Migo]

They can, but not as good as Xbox since MS has Azure already established. Sony has roughly 15K servers worldwide to use for cloud processing....MS got over 200K

Really not a fair comparison

So they can't. Thanks for clarifying that.

 

[GoddamnyamanProf]

More Karl Rove-style ramblings from the WOAT

1 star and neg rep

 

[NZA]

Which is why almost every proprietary hardware device has failed. Devs want to aim at the widest market possible.

Wii had the market on lock, but 3rd parties still didn't make motion controls an integral part of their games cause Playstaion and Xbox users wouldn't/couldn't buy them.

the key point is wii got different games. it was not left gameless until market saturation. the cloud could be in a more sustainable position if MS is willing to work harder on its proof of concept

nintendo: shytty product with better strategy execution
xbone: better product with shytty strategy execution

 

[MeachTheMonster]

the key point is wii got different games. it was not left gameless until market saturation. the cloud could be in a more sustainable position if MS is willing to work harder on its proof of concept

nintendo: shytty product with better strategy execution
xbone: better product with shytty strategy execution

Wii got shovelware. The big devs didn't do anything with the motion controls.

 

[NZA]

Wii got shovelware. The big devs didn't do anything with the motion controls.

it was shovelware because that is the kind of platform nintendo created. the graphics and online functionality were primitive to say the least. we have not seen what would happen if it were on par but different. selling that many boxes but having power would be a game changer (pun intended)

 

[MeachTheMonster]

it was shovelware because that is the kind of platform nintendo created. the graphics and online functionality were primitive to say the least. we have not seen what would happen if it were on par but different. selling that many boxes but having power would be a game changer (pun intended)

No.

It had the big games. Madden, COD, etc.

Devs didn't support its unique features in a meaningful way cause they would be excluding customers.

Shovelware devs just threw crappy shyt together and put it out to make money

 

[NZA]

No.

It had the big games. Madden, COD, etc.

Devs didn't support its unique features in a meaningful way cause they would be excluding customers.

Shovelware devs just threw crappy shyt together and put it out to make money

it didnt only have the big games. it had unique games that made it a 2nd console for hardcore gamers such as myself, but its claim to fame was always serving non-gamers motion control games of varying quality that had nothing to do with those big traditional franchises.

 

[winb83]

Should Xbox One games be built without parity?

Its a question being asked around the community.

Now that we've seen what the technology is capable of. Will 3rd partys utilize it? And how will Sony fit in to this?

With the ps4 leading in market share 3rd parties will be reluctant to use the technology in a meaningful way, unless it can be used on both consoles.

I personally hope "Cloudgine" (the company behind the cloud stuff in crackdown) becomes an engine/middleware company and starts to pass their tech and servers to any dev that wants to use them.

Its just not clear if the PS4 is capable or if Sony and Microsoft can/will come to some type of agreement.

Thoughts?

Until this is ran in fully developed retail games on a mass scale it's not worth talking about. I get Xbox fanboys desperately want some type of victory but a tech demo isn't it. Video game developers show tech demos all the time and have the final product fall well short.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Until this is ran in fully developed retail games on a mass scale it's not worth talking about. I get Xbox fanboys desperately want some type of victory but a tech demo isn't it. Video game developers show tech demos all the time and have the final product fall well short.

It wasnt a "tech demo".

It was playable and running on an Xbox.

Journalists got to try it for theirselves.

Going by your logic we shouldn't talk about or give a fukk about anything at one of these shows.

And please go away with the fanboy stuff

 

[winb83]

It wasnt a "tech demo".

Then you don't know what a tech demo is.

A tech demo is a demonstration of technology still under development. What those journalist got to play was a piece of software the developers are working on and it wasn't on a mass scale. That isn't a finished product we can all buy in a retail store.

We watched Watch_Dogs be played at e3 2012. The finished product wasn't what was shown. Let's not act like The Master Chief Collection didn't happen either. The tech you're talking up isn't readily available or proven yet. Azure might be but their ability to implement it in the game on a mass scale the way it was demoed isn't.

Real gamers know to greet stuff like this with the cynicism it deserves until proven otherwise. The Xbox fanboys are running with this like they're Democrats and it's 2012 and Mitt Romney just said damn near half the country are parasites.

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Then you don't know what a tech demo is.

A tech demo is a demonstration of technology still under development. What those journalist got to play was a piece of software the developers are working on and it wasn't on a mass scale. That isn't a finished product we can all buy in a retail store.

This applies to literally everything at E3

We watched Watch_Dogs be played at e3 2012. The finished product wasn't what was shown. Let's not act like The Master Chief Collection didn't happen either. The tech you're talking up isn't readily available or proven yet. Azure might be but their ability to implement it in the game on a mass scale the way it was demoed isn't.

Real gamers know to greet stuff like this with the cynicism it deserves until proven otherwise. The Xbox fanboys are running with this like they're Democrats and it's 2012 and Mitt Romney just said damn near half the country are parasites.

No. Internet contrarians such as yourself like to greet stuff with cynicism.

But as I said. Going by your logic we shouldn't talk of get excited about ANYTHING at one of these shows.

And if you can't make an argument without talking about what "fanboys" are doing then your argument lost from the jump.