With the Casey Anthony, Zimmerman, OJ, and R.Kelly trials, I have a question...

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For R Kelly, I don't believe having sex with a 14 year old is wrong, and that personal opinion will prevent me from finding an individual guilty of "raping" anybody 14 years and up (if that 14 year old willing participated)...

You are one sick mother fukker!
Having sex with an underage child is rape you fukking sick b*stard!
Doesnt matter who prersued who first...ita Rapppppe!
You disgust me!
 

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[...]I don't believe having sex with a 14 year old is wrong, and that personal opinion will prevent me from finding an individual guilty of "raping" anybody 14 years and up (if that 14 year old willing participated)...
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May I ask what made you draw the line at 14 ?
 

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Or how about this? Is our legal system really all that great, when a DEFENDANT is advised NOT to testify, in order to get off???
 

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i see some of y'all are missing the point of what he said. age of consent differs greatly around the world.
That why I ask him why 14...
Is it because he thinks that a 14yo teenage girl is mature enough ? Or is it something else ?
 

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Or how about this? Is our legal system really all that great, when a DEFENDANT is advised NOT to testify, in order to get off???

A lot of legal systems in modern times have this clause. Here in America you have the right not to self incriminate.

It's his or her point to get off isn't it?

The reason this is done is because even if the person is totally innocent, a skilled prosecutor might make that person do something foolish. We see that with police and coerced confessions all of the time.
 

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i see some of y'all are missing the point of what he said. age of consent differs greatly around the world.

I think it's 14 in some euro countries.

All seems a bit sick to me though, a 43 year old fukking a 14 year old?

Nah, keep that illegal.
 

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My theory is that high profile cases have high profile and/or highly experienced defense attorneys and thus they are able to poke a few tiny holes in the prosecutions case.. or better than a public defender/attorney with minimal resources would be able to do...
Casey Anthony's defense attorney was a no-name public defender. That was his "first" high-profile case.
 
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Casey Anthony's defense attorney was a no-name public defender. That was his "first" high-profile case.

That is only because of his own personal demons and furthermore... he had resources available to him that most defense attorneys are not going to have heading into a case. A no-name black male in a random courtroom who has no money is going to get a public defender who is handing multiple cases, stressed out, no resources and they will immediately seek out a deal with the prosecution.
 

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there's nothing to explain. jurors are not lawyers or judges. to truly understand it. you need to be a law dog. i know they dont get it because i was on a murder case as a juror. and we had a very intelligent group of jurors. i was glad for that. but even with that we all had to admit. we didnt REALLLLLy know what it meant. and the truth is, it doesnt matter if you do. because even the law dogs use it to lean one way or the other. the law is not in stone there's always wiggle room.

what the heck is reasonable? that depends on who you ask.
 

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A lot of legal systems in modern times have this clause. Here in America you have the right not to self incriminate.

It's his or her point to get off isn't it?

The reason this is done is because even if the person is totally innocent, a skilled prosecutor might make that person do something foolish. We see that with police and coerced confessions all of the time.

That's what I'm saying though. The system can fail you even when innocent.
 

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That person's innocence is worth more than locking away all criminals on the planet.

I have to agree with this. This is a great question but at the end of the day I think this is the right answer.

I think a great related question that would help people answer op's question would be what were you more enraged at:

Brian Banks (USC recruit falsely accused of rape) situation or what happened in this George Zimmerman/Trayvon Martin case?
 
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May I ask what made you draw the line at 14 ?

1) One of my earliest sexual memory is that of a 13 year old friend of the family trying to get me to finger her, and her massaging my penis, when I was only 6 or 7 years old...She told about a game called "mommy and daddy"...

2) According to some Canadian stats I read, the majority of girls lose their virginity at age 15, and the majority of females that I have spoken to, I have told me they lost their virginity at 15...

3) In Canada around 2000, the age of consent was 14 years old, it's only recently that they bumped it up to 16 or 18, I am not sure...

When I put this information together, I hypothesize that females start becoming sexually aroused/awaken, in the sense that they start thinking about engaging in intercourse or other sexual acts, at about age 13...

This is still considered a reasonable age in other parts of the world...

I believe a human being, if given the proper education and upbringing, has enough sense to explore their sexuality at age 14...I think the brain is old enough to begin responsibly exploring that aspect of life...

I think sexually deviant and risky behaviour starts when society deems sex taboo, and makes it difficult for people to express their sexuality without feeling shame...

Shame is VERY detrimental emotion...
 
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