Winter Came and Traci Ellis Ross Kept Warm in a Blanket of Regret

[General Mills]

Okay cool...the Top 10% earning black women still represent just them though. The post you initially pushed back on is about women regardless of income, and I didn't specify Black either.

We can average out 55-65 into 60%. 40% of this highly specified group having children is still a lot, and is supported on the anecdotal evidence given by men on here who deal with them or know them.

Ayo….. when I look at that timeline it really lines up

 

[10bandz]

So am I the only one who remembers her being a roadie on the Glow In The Dark tour

 

[lib123]

Okay cool...the Top 10% earning black women still represent just them though. The post you initially pushed back on is about women regardless of income, and I didn't specify Black either.

We can average out 55-65 into 60%. 40% of this highly specified group having children is still a lot, and is supported on the anecdotal evidence given by men on here who deal with them or know them.

You weren’t talking about just BW? I was speaking specifically about BW and assumed you were too since most people in this thread are talking about women similar to Tracee Ellis Ross. And in other threads where I’ve brought up that most college educated millennial professional Black women who are higher earning are childless you’ve pushed back. And I was speaking about these BW living in coastal high cost of living metropolitan areas, so it definitely is closer to 70% being childless. ChatGPT response was BW nationwide with that background.

 

[Shadow King]

Ayo….. when I look at that timeline it really lines up

I know it does lol

The concession that ~40% is not most can be made on my part...the sentiment that giving in to the maternal drive and having a baby is this miniscule portion of them...nah.

You weren’t talking about just BW? I was speaking specifically about BW and assumed you were too since most people in this thread are talking about women similar to Tracee Ellis Ross. And in other threads where I’ve brought up that most college educated millennial professional Black women who are higher earning are childless you’ve pushed back. And I was speaking about these BW living in coastal high cost of living metropolitan areas, so it definitely is closer to 70% being childless. ChatGPT response was BW nationwide with that background.

Nothing in my post said anything specific to Black women. We can only assume that based on proximity, thus we let it become a discussion about Black women, but it's not a Black-specific issue.

The vast, vast, vast majority of women earning 130K at minimum are gonna be living in these areas you're speaking on anyway. The overlap is too great to be trying push this estimate up to 75% when you just showed me 60% with your own receipts.

You're now ignoring your own research to disprove what you don't wanna believe.

 

[lib123]

I know it does lol

The concession that ~40% is not most can be made on my part...the sentiment that giving in to the maternal drive and having a baby is this miniscule portion of them...nah.

Nothing in my post said anything specific to Black women. We can only assume that based on proximity, thus we let it become a discussion about Black women, but it's not a Black-specific issue.

The vast, vast, vast majority of women earning 130K at minimum are gonna be living in these areas you're speaking on anyway. The overlap is too great to be trying push this estimate up to 75% when you just showed me 60% with your own receipts.

You're now ignoring your own research to disprove what you don't wanna believe.

ChatGPT says 70% of the older millennial BW in that demo live in coastal major metropolitan areas. I would argue that those who don’t and live in places like the South and Midwest are mothers at much higher rates. So 70% childless in coastal metro areas isn’t that far fetched when the estimate was 55-65% nationwide. And calm down, it’s not that serious.

 

[Shadow King]

Fair enough. And calm down, it’s not that serious.

Nobody's mad lol

 

[Hoodoo Child]

Maybe some things are not meant to be, and not everyone is maternal. The amount of people that love their children but regret having a child with their partner is very high.

Or maybe some people want it one way..

 

[O.T.I.S.]

And Black women need to make up their minds about how they feel about gay people..

She brought up how a man feels about homosexuality being a part of the relationship and I’m like… why? Not caring for them makes it toxic masculinity?

As long as dude is not a blatant bigot, why does that matter? And if he was cool or open with it, then she would think dude is all types of gay.

Agreed but my point is if a BM celebrity said he’s single because most of the women he’s come across are “toxic”, you would probably say it’s because they don’t find him attractive and he needs to lower his standards. Tracee Ellis’ lane is Stephan A Smith types. She’s claiming she doesn’t want older men because they’re more likely to be homophobic when it’s probably really because she doesn’t want to be with a visibly 10+ years older man. If Dave East was homophobic, would she care?

Exactly

I know for a fact Dave East has dropped F-bombs all over albums even if I can’t remember. Would she say the same thing?


And Dave East like my age.. I guess thats still young to her but still, YN’s are just as crazy as older nikkas are.

 

[Shadow King]

ChatGPT says 70% of the older millennial BW in that demo live in coastal major metropolitan areas. I would argue that those who don’t and live in places like the South and Midwest are mothers at much higher rates. So 70% childless in coastal metro areas isn’t that far fetched when the estimate was 55-65% nationwide. And calm down, it’s not that serious.

The South and Midwest still have large metro areas that are not cheap. You're trying to limit the scope to the Northeast Corridor and California to build a narrative.

Leaving out
ATL
CHI
DET
CLE
HOU
DAL
MIA
CHA has joined the conversation

Erases most of the women you're trying to tell me about.

 

[lib123]

The South and Midwest still have large metro areas that are not cheap. You're trying to limit the scope to the Northeast Corridor and California to build a narrative.

Leaving out
ATL
CHI
DET
CLE
HOU
DAL
MIA
CHA has joined the conversation

Erases most of the women you're trying to tell me about.

Those metro areas are cheap compared to the North East, DC and Cali.

 

[Shadow King]

Those metro areas are cheap compared to the North East, DC and Cali.

Cheaper than draconian =/= cheap.

 

[Westbama Heartthrob]

No doubt.
Mike used to kick it with his sister toya.
at studio 54.
as an advanced teen leading up to this.
In this era.
Child performers like jackson to drew barrymore were viewed and given precedent as adults.
Barrymore wrote a whole book about it. As a kid.




[ That became an influence. To how and why i started sneaking in venues. Knowing ahead of time. from barrymore's book, that you could gain entry.
into an adult world As a child and not be removed. Plus looked at in reverence. ]

Where back then. A child without this experience was deemed a child. Yet a child with this experience.
socially was given sway.

as an actual adult.

The wiz dropped in 78.

Off the wall dropped in 1979.



This happened in 1983.
Acting as promo for rhe album.
As well as what would become the gateway marketing for the fpurth quarter release of thriller in 1982.

This aired march 1983.



Then billie jean video dropped.
Which catapulted everything into untouchable next level drawing permeation in every possible way all time.


then after billie jean,...
Three weeks later



beat it video drops domestically.
Then two weeks later.
beat it video drops internationally.

Six months later
this dropped oct 1983


Then tw9 months later.
a few weeks removed a year later.
from the release in the last quarter Of 1982. The direct video release of rhe thriller video is released to the public st 29.99.

Now mike is no longer rego child star. Who was written off as an adult draw. Making soundtrack money about a rat named ben.

Now mike = MICHAEL JACKSON

Yet before all this.

Mike was hen pecked.
now the receipts from direct to video thriller return comes in faster. Than some royalties on lp's.

Sohh now mike has liquid over the owners. Yet diana was not checking for him.
Sohh now mike like.

bet,....
Imma drop this.




That how can it not be a diss.

If rhe real princes diana has to request it olayed in britain. As mike was told by the real princess diana to rock that shir. Yet mike before this. Was like this may be taken the wrong way. If i play this infront pf princess diana.
If it is not a diss. Then why would mike even have the wherewithal to be like. We playing london . Take dirty diana off the playlist.

Yeah. It is perxeption. Then there is self equated reality. In that self equation. We have to be prescient. That dirty diana more than likely is a diss record to diana ross in some premise.
That would make michael jackson be like. That could be taken in the wrong light. When to any fan. Even princess diana. It is just a song.

Art Barr

Proflic posting

Would rep but them taxes ain't hit yet

 

[lib123]

Cheaper than draconian =/= cheap.

My point is it’s still much more financially feasible to raise a child as a single mother earning $130K in those Midwest and Southern cities vs the North East, LA and DC. Im also sure that a larger percentage of higher income BW living in the South and Midwest probably have family who can help them raise a child.

 

[Art Barr]

Proflic posting

Would rep but them taxes ain't hit yet

art barr

 

[Wiseborn]

Then they aren't THAT high earning.

And i need receipts my guy. Older Millennial means 1988 or before. 70% of Black women 37-45 in any tax bracket being childless is bullshìt.

Not only that but for the first time Black women fell behind Hispanic Men in earnings.

So the lowest to highest earnings is Hispanic Women, Black women Hispanc Men Black Men Asian women white women white men and Asian Men.