Winter Came and Traci Ellis Ross Kept Warm in a Blanket of Regret

[trap101-ETHout-Allegri-In]

Mike used to be gone gone in the head f'oh diana.
She played mike before he blew up as a solo. Or had solo artist freedom, a deal and the best ppint payout in music history.

Mike became a ceo exec type. All because diana played him.
Mike color issues, to cosmetic.
May have all been attributed to. being young and played by diana.
It makes perfect sense.
When you think in timeline.
Like why would young mike be like.

Yo paul...
How much it cost?
To own your songs.


Think about the projects in the timeline in the process of mike's big boi come up era as a boss.

Not just as a sales earner, but as a thee jiggernaut publishing house of all time.

Then go see.
who diana was courting.
or married to.
Or. Diana was steppin out on.
That mike was lead on.
now granted,...
mike may have had aspirations.
Yet the iron fist owner shyt.
Is some ol...
Oh diana want a barry..
to white tyc00n type over me.
When you happen to be mike jackson.
Mike became michael jackson from that shyt.
From making songs about a rat.
to making the very reason tv was created.
The rest is the history of the goat.



Art Barr


Art Barr

....... You not wrong..... i could see how this lines up....... might be going down the rabbit hole today.....

 

[Wiseborn]

We'll see but older millennial educated corporate BW are having children out of wedlock at lower rates compared to previous generations. In addition to the stigma, another huge factor is cost of living and inflation. With the student loans and inflation, a lot of them straight up can't afford to have a child alone. Child support hasn't kept up with inflation.

It’s not because of stigma it's because today’s women are not willing to deal with yesterdays Men Meaning women are raising their standards and Like Traci getting prced out of the market.

 

[UnQuantized]

Women like this will never be happy Just talking in circles

 

[Wiseborn]

Women like this will never happy Just talking in circles

Yes I don’t know why she just didn’t say she was happy throwing p*ssy at YN’s and leave it at that.

 

[Shadow King]

We'll see but older millennial educated corporate BW are having children out of wedlock at lower rates compared to previous generations. In addition to the stigma, another huge factor is cost of living and inflation. With the student loans and inflation, a lot of them straight up can't afford to have a child alone. Child support hasn't kept up with inflation.

Lower rates =/= most don't. I'm gonna need figures for this because the men on here are largely that exact age bracket and will tell a story that is a complete 180.

If they're THAT high earning then child support becomes trivial next to motherhood.

 

[Rev Leon Lonnie Love]

#TheWall

 

[Gloxina]

Agreed but my point is if a BM celebrity said he’s single because most of the women he’s come across are “toxic”, you would probably say it’s because they don’t find him attractive and he needs to lower his standards. Tracee Ellis’ lane is Stephan A Smith types. She’s claiming she doesn’t want older men because they’re more likely to be homophobic when it’s probably really because she doesn’t want to be with a visibly 10+ years older man. If Dave East was homophobic, would she care?

Won’t lie- you made a point here. Lol

 

[Moesha’s Overbearing Dad]

If a phat ass falls in the woods and no nikka is around to wife it does it make a sound?

Masterfully spoken

 

[PartyHeart]

I think the correct word is grief and not necessarily regret. Regret would imply that there was an opportunity or opportunities for Tracy to be happily married with a partner that she desired and have children in marriage. It sounds to me like that opportunity actually never presented itself. It does happen. It doesn’t mean that she is unhappy with her life or choices, it just means that she has grief that she carries that life did not work out the way that she wanted it to in that area.

This is actually a pretty normal experience for humans. How many of us are creative or artistic in someway, but never got the opportunity to put our craft on display and make it into a career? We don’t necessarily regret anything that we did. We might have tried our hardest to be presented with opportunities, but some things are just not in our control and it never happened for us. This happens with jobs, promotions, school, etc. It’s very much a human experience, thinking about things that we wanted and tried to obtain, but weren’t able to for one reason or another, and how our life would have been had it been different.

 

[lib123]

It’s not because of stigma it's because today’s women are not willing to deal with yesterdays Men Meaning women are raising their standards and Like Traci getting prced out of the market.

That’s true too but there’s still a stigma of going to work in corporate or professional environments and being pregnant and unmarried.

 

[lib123]

Lower rates =/= most don't. I'm gonna need figures for this because the men on here are largely that exact age bracket and will tell a story that is a complete 180.

If they're THAT high earning then child support becomes trivial next to motherhood.

That’s the thing they’re high earning as far as single person’s lifestyle but don’t make enough at those jobs to raise a child primarily by themselves financially in high cost of living coastal cities where they are heavily concentrated. And I stand by most (60-70%) older millennial educated professional Black women in high cost of living cities or surrounding areas are childless.

 

[Shadow King]

That’s the thing they’re high earning as far as single person’s lifestyle but don’t make enough at those jobs to raise a child primarily by themselves financially in high cost of living coastal cities where they are heavily concentrated. And I stand by most (60-70%) older millennial educated professional Black women in high cost of living cities or surrounding areas are childless.

Then they aren't THAT high earning.

And i need receipts my guy. Older Millennial means 1988 or before. 70% of Black women 37-45 in any tax bracket being childless is bullshìt.

 

[Art Barr]

....... You not wrong..... i could see how this lines up....... might be going down the rabbit hole today.....

No doubt.
Mike used to kick it with his sister toya.
at studio 54.
as an advanced teen leading up to this.
In this era.
Child performers like jackson to drew barrymore were viewed and given precedent as adults.
Barrymore wrote a whole book about it. As a kid.




[ That became an influence. To how and why i started sneaking in venues. Knowing ahead of time. from barrymore's book, that you could gain entry.
into an adult world As a child and not be removed. Plus looked at in reverence. ]

Where back then. A child without this experience was deemed a child. Yet a child with this experience.
socially was given sway.

as an actual adult.

The wiz dropped in 78.

Off the wall dropped in 1979.



This happened in 1983.
Acting as promo for rhe album.
As well as what would become the gateway marketing for the fpurth quarter release of thriller in 1982.

This aired march 1983.



Then billie jean video dropped.
Which catapulted everything into untouchable next level drawing permeation in every possible way all time.


then after billie jean,...
Three weeks later



beat it video drops domestically.
Then two weeks later.
beat it video drops internationally.

Six months later
this dropped oct 1983


Then tw9 months later.
a few weeks removed a year later.
from the release in the last quarter Of 1982. The direct video release of rhe thriller video is released to the public st 29.99.

Now mike is no longer rego child star. Who was written off as an adult draw. Making soundtrack money about a rat named ben.

Now mike = MICHAEL JACKSON

Yet before all this.

Mike was hen pecked.
now the receipts from direct to video thriller return comes in faster. Than some royalties on lp's.

Sohh now mike has liquid over the owners. Yet diana was not checking for him.
Sohh now mike like.

bet,....
Imma drop this.




That how can it not be a diss.

If rhe real princes diana has to request it olayed in britain. As mike was told by the real princess diana to rock that shir. Yet mike before this. Was like this may be taken the wrong way. If i play this infront pf princess diana.
If it is not a diss. Then why would mike even have the wherewithal to be like. We playing london . Take dirty diana off the playlist.

Yeah. It is perxeption. Then there is self equated reality. In that self equation. We have to be prescient. That dirty diana more than likely is a diss record to diana ross in some premise.
That would make michael jackson be like. That could be taken in the wrong light. When to any fan. Even princess diana. It is just a song.

Art Barr

 

[lib123]

Then they aren't THAT high earning.

And i need receipts my guy. Older Millennial means 1988 or before. 70% of Black women 37-45 in any tax bracket being childless is bullshìt.

They’re high earning relative to the majority of Black people. Again I was specific as far as profile. College educated, professional older millenial BW living in coastal metropolitan or surrounding areas with high costs of living. There are a lot of childless people in those areas across the board.

I asked ChatGPT “What percentage of older millenial college educated professional Black women who are in the top 10% of earners as far as income would you estimate are childless?”

ChatGPT Response:

Based on available data and demographic trends, a reasonable estimate is that approximately 55% to 65% of older millennial, college-educated, professional Black women in the top 10% of earners are childless.

Here’s the reasoning behind that estimate:

1. Age Group – Older Millennials (Born 1981–1988)

• As of 2025, they are roughly 37–44 years old.

2. General Childlessness Among Black Women

• According to CDC and Pew data, about 30–35% of Black women aged 40–44 are childless overall (including all income and education levels).
• This rate is higher than that of white or Hispanic women.

3. Effect of College Education & Professional Career

• College-educated women are more likely to delay childbirth or remain childless.
• Among Black women with a bachelor’s degree or higher, childlessness by age 40 is closer to 40–50%.

4. Top Earners Delay or Forgo Children at Higher Rates

• Women in the top 10% of income earners (which could mean $130K+ annually depending on location) are more likely to be highly focused on career, and also face:
  • Fewer dating/marriage options they consider suitable (especially among Black women seeking similarly educated/high-earning partners),
  • Biological delays due to career planning,
  • Cultural or lifestyle choices that prioritize freedom, flexibility, or later parenting.

5. Intersectionality Amplifies the Trend

• For Black women who are both high-earning and college-educated, the childlessness rate is likely higher than their peers.
• The pool of eligible partners (same race, same or higher income, similarly educated, no kids, etc.) is smaller, making childbearing in stable relationships less likely by 40.

Final Estimate:

• 55%–65% childless among older millennial, college-educated, professional Black women in the top 10% of earners.

Let me know if you want this broken down visually or refined by marital status, location, or fertility intentions.

 

[Shadow King]

They’re high earning relative to the majority of Black people. Again I was specific as far as profile. College educated, professional older millenial BW living in coastal metropolitan or surrounding areas with high costs of living. There are a lot of childless people in those areas across the board.

I asked ChatGPT “What percentage of older millenial college educated professional Black women who are in the top 10% of earners as far as income would you estimate are childless?”

ChatGPT Response:

Based on available data and demographic trends, a reasonable estimate is that approximately 55% to 65% of older millennial, college-educated, professional Black women in the top 10% of earners are childless.

Here’s the reasoning behind that estimate:

1. Age Group – Older Millennials (Born 1981–1988)

• As of 2025, they are roughly 37–44 years old.

2. General Childlessness Among Black Women

• According to CDC and Pew data, about 30–35% of Black women aged 40–44 are childless overall (including all income and education levels).
• This rate is higher than that of white or Hispanic women.

3. Effect of College Education & Professional Career

• College-educated women are more likely to delay childbirth or remain childless.
• Among Black women with a bachelor’s degree or higher, childlessness by age 40 is closer to 40–50%.

4. Top Earners Delay or Forgo Children at Higher Rates

• Women in the top 10% of income earners (which could mean $130K+ annually depending on location) are more likely to be highly focused on career, and also face:
  • Fewer dating/marriage options they consider suitable (especially among Black women seeking similarly educated/high-earning partners),
  • Biological delays due to career planning,
  • Cultural or lifestyle choices that prioritize freedom, flexibility, or later parenting.

5. Intersectionality Amplifies the Trend

• For Black women who are both high-earning and college-educated, the childlessness rate is likely higher than their peers.
• The pool of eligible partners (same race, same or higher income, similarly educated, no kids, etc.) is smaller, making childbearing in stable relationships less likely by 40.

Final Estimate:

• 55%–65% childless among older millennial, college-educated, professional Black women in the top 10% of earners.

Let me know if you want this broken down visually or refined by marital status, location, or fertility intentions.

Okay cool...the Top 10% earning black women still represent just them though. The post you initially pushed back on is about women regardless of income, and I didn't specify Black either.

We can average out 55-65 into 60%. 40% of this highly specified group having children is still a lot, and is supported on the anecdotal evidence given by men on here who deal with them or know them.